What Is A Woman's Issue?

[B_prettyswinggirl]

I went ahead and added my vote of yes to the petition. I think it's a great idea. I hope we get listened to.

 

[petite]

Well, I think I've only reported two threads for not being women's issues in the entire past year, and only because they were especially annoying threads, but I still have an opinion about what is and what isn't a women's issue. I love the Ask a Woman forum idea. I think it would solve the problem, and that's me to a T, a problem solver.

 

[Enid]

one of the problems is the "size preference, length and girth discussions" sticky covers a ton of the "ask a woman" questions and yet it doesn't get utilized that much or as much as it should IMHO.

 

[Patchos]

"i think i look fat in these pants, do i look fat in these pants?"

i don't think nudey was being passive-aggressive in starting this thread (from my standpoint). i think he was just seeking some answers.

Answers that have been given to the mods over and over again. This thread certainly is passive-aggressive.


i'm not sure about what is and isn't a women's issue these days. i try to move or merge all the obvious stuff otherwise i just leave it. it tires me thinking of it.[/QUOTE]

Why is it that the mods are the only ones unsure of what a women's issue is. That seems odd.

 

[Patchos]

one of the problems is the "size preference, length and girth discussions" sticky covers a ton of the "ask a woman" questions and yet it doesn't get utilized that much or as much as it should IMHO.

Whose fault is that? Shouldn't the mods look at other options if this one isn't working?

 

[Enid]

Why is it that the mods are the only ones unsure of what a women's issue is. That seems odd.

i'll try to answer best i can, i guess it's 'cause it can be hard deciding what goes where.......and there are almost always other reports that take precedence. i do seriously try (when i'm around to do modding stuff that is) if there's an obvious mis-step by getting it into the right forum but otherwise when a question gets asked and people start responding......i'll just leave it for the most part.

"ask a woman" might be a good idea, i'm not sure how well it will go off but we could see i suppose. i feel like "size pref, length and girth discussions" already covers a ton of it but......i'm not sure. maybe it would help to have that sub-forum.

i'm definitely not trying to be obtuse, i am just not sure about the practical application of the sub-forum. i'll have to ponder it a little.

 

[Patchos]

i'll try to answer best i can, i guess it's 'cause it can be hard deciding what goes where.......and there are almost always other reports that take precedence. i do seriously try (when i'm around to do modding stuff that is) if there's an obvious mis-step by getting it into the right forum but otherwise when a question gets asked and people start responding......i'll just leave it for the most part.

"ask a woman" might be a good idea, i'm not sure how well it will go off but we could see i suppose. i feel like "size pref, length and girth discussions" already covers a ton of it but......i'm not sure. maybe it would help to have that sub-forum.

i'm definitely not trying to be obtuse, i am just not sure about the practical application of the sub-forum. i'll have to ponder it a little.

The size, pref, length and girth thread is pretty much pointless. This site is full of guys who want to know each and every single minute detail about how women view their dicks. There should be a single thread for each of those length, girth, etc. Then the guys can go to that specific thread instead of reading through 50 pages to get an answer.

The thread ManlyBanisters created was specifically titled for Rob's eyes. Has he ever seen it? What is his opinion on it? Have the mods never discussed it themselves? Why are the mods asking for input when it's already been given?

 

[Gillette]

Ah, yes. The petition. I'm particularly fond of the rationale of 'I only behave like a harridan because the site isn't adequately structured', when the truth is that people behave as they are naturally inclined to behave.

Creating an 'ask women a question' forum wouldn't really change anything because people will still disagree on the definition of what a true Women's Issue is, so the reports, complaints and snarking will continue.

Patchos, I'm guessing that the mods are asking now as a means of gauging the current climate and going by the comments on the first page it has changed. I'm reading more women saying that they can moderate their own responses and that they aren't particularly bothered by things that fall slightly outside their definition of what WI is.

For me WI has always been the place to discuss issues pertaining to women. Our brain chemistry, communication methods, and certainly our bodies are different than those of men.

I don't think that a sex question should automatically be moved to the Sex With a Large Penis forum because the question may have more to do with sex with a vagina (what works and why) regardless of the size of the peen.

Likewise when it comes to communication difficulties between the sexes I wouldn't automatically relegate it to the Relationships forum because not only can women (perhaps) better explain the perceptions or behaviours the OP is having difficulty with but by being in the WI section means that men responding will also give it consideration as a possible gender difference issue in addition to personality difference.

Any guy genuinely seeking to understand the opposite sex better gets a thumbs up from me. They shouldn't be greeted with, "This is not a women's Issue!".

 

[Patchos]

Ah, yes. The petition. I'm particularly fond of the rationale of 'I only behave like a harridan because the site isn't adequately structured', when the truth is that people behave as they are naturally inclined to behave.

Creating an 'ask women a question' forum wouldn't really change anything because people will still disagree on the definition of what a true Women's Issue is, so the reports, complaints and snarking will continue.

Patchos, I'm guessing that the mods are asking now as a means of gauging the current climate and going by the comments on the first page it has changed. I'm reading more women saying that they can moderate their own responses and that they aren't particularly bothered by things that fall slightly outside their definition of what WI is.

For me WI has always been the place to discuss issues pertaining to women. Our brain chemistry, communication methods, and certainly our bodies are different than those of men.

I don't think that a sex question should automatically be moved to the Sex With a Large Penis forum because the question may have more to do with sex with a vagina (what works and why) regardless of the size of the peen.

Likewise when it comes to communication difficulties between the sexes I wouldn't automatically relegate it to the Relationships forum because not only can women (perhaps) better explain the perceptions or behaviours the OP is having difficulty with but by being in the WI section means that men responding will also give it consideration as a possible gender difference issue in addition to personality difference.

Any guy genuinely seeking to understand the opposite sex better gets a thumbs up from me. They shouldn't be greeted with, "This is not a women's Issue!".

If the climate has changed, then so be it, nothing needs to change. I'll keep reporting threads that I think should be moved until someone asks me not to report them anymore, because I sincerely think I am correct when I report them. The mods shouldn't complain about the "women's issues police" when we're only trying to help keep the board in order.

 

[petite]

I think it's human nature that if a person wanted only women's opinions on a matter, they would see "Ask a Woman" and "Women's Issues" in the forum index and naturally choose to put it into "Ask a Woman." That seems obvious to me, so that's why I support creating that forum.

I mean, if you really wanted to make sure people understood, call it, "Want Only Women's Opinions?" Or how about, "Get a Woman's Opinion."

I sincerely believe that the creation of a "Get a Woman's Opinion" forum would clarify the purpose of "Women's Issues" in people's minds, so that it would solve a lot of the current headaches.

 

[Enid]

I think it's human nature that if a person wanted only women's opinions on a matter, they would see "Ask a Woman" and "Women's Issues" in the forum index and naturally choose to put it into "Ask a Woman." That seems obvious to me, so that's why I support creating that forum.

others won't see it that way, i'm afraid

think about how little the "size pref" sticky thread has been used. really think about it. since it has been created, not many males have used it.

we can't control them, i wish we could (in a way), but we can't

 

[petite]

others won't see it that way, i'm afraid

think about how little the "size pref" sticky thread has been used. really think about it. since it has been created, not many males have used it.

we can't control them, i wish we could, but we can't

See, that's human nature, too! I don't think you can make the comparison of one incredibly long thread where people are reluctant to update with a forum, because they're not comparable.

It's common on forums for people not to search out old threads or add their opinion to the end of an old thread because then the thread isn't focused on themselves. That's an attention getting maneuver that has nothing to do with just wanting to know about size preferences. By creating a whole new thread, a person accomplishes more than one objective: the people responding are all directly responding to the OP instead of just bumping an old thread so that people are responding to the first post or continuing old conversations that had nothing to do with you, and that person gets to get noticed by being the focus of the new thread. That's different than creating a whole new forum where people can do the, "Look at me!" dance all they want in it.

In fact, I've experienced the practical downside of adding a question to the end of an existing long thread. There have been a few times that someone has started a topic and I've asked a follow up question that was directly related to the topic at hand and could not even be understood without following the thread discussion, only to have my post ignored by every single person who answered after me, because those people weren't bothering to read the whole thread, they just read the OP, and then answered, and my question got lost among the pages. Adding my question to the end of the thread and waiting for someone to notice it was a waste of time. People know these things from experience, so they default to creating a new thread. So that's what I do now, and it works. It's the practical solution to the problem of being ignored if you ask a question at the end of the thread, just make a new thread. Newbies around here just don't know that it's frowned upon.

 

[Gillette]

The look at me dance can be had in the Show Off forum. Not everybody puts threads appropriate to that forum in that forum.

New members don't always introduce themselves in the New Members forum.
Hookups aren't always posted in the Hookups forum.
Porn isn't always posted in the Adult Websites forum.

Having a separate forum isn't going to ensure that people start threads in the appropriate forum.

It's asking Rob to create a whole new forum so that we can avoid the arduous task of reading the titles of threads we may not be interested in. Oh Noez!

And why? Is it because we don't deign to respond to men asking questions of women?
Because if we don't have such a bias then I don't see the problem in leaving threads started by them integrated as they are now.

If you want a forum where only women can ask questions there's one in The Real Ladies group.

 

[SprinkleMe69]

Thank you ArtOfDesire...the most intelligent post in this thread.

 

[IntoxicatingToxin]

If the mods don't like people reporting they should turn the reporting function off. Instead they create a passive-aggressive thread asking us why we're reporting all the wrong things. We should be able to read their minds about what they consider is, or isn't, a women's issue.

It's only passive-aggressive if you perceive it to be such. Is it so hard to believe that we truly want to try and appease as many people as possible with a concrete solution? We want opinions, we want advice, we want to hear from the CURRENT women of the board.

Why is it that the mods are the only ones unsure of what a women's issue is. That seems odd.

Because what is and isn't a women's issue isn't black and white, and it's also largely based on opinion. The great thing about our moderating team is that our opinions differ.

Whose fault is that? Shouldn't the mods look at other options if this one isn't working?

What do you think we're trying to do?

Ah, yes. The petition. I'm particularly fond of the rationale of 'I only behave like a harridan because the site isn't adequately structured', when the truth is that people behave as they are naturally inclined to behave.

Creating an 'ask women a question' forum wouldn't really change anything because people will still disagree on the definition of what a true Women's Issue is, so the reports, complaints and snarking will continue.

Patchos, I'm guessing that the mods are asking now as a means of gauging the current climate and going by the comments on the first page it has changed. I'm reading more women saying that they can moderate their own responses and that they aren't particularly bothered by things that fall slightly outside their definition of what WI is.

For me WI has always been the place to discuss issues pertaining to women. Our brain chemistry, communication methods, and certainly our bodies are different than those of men.

I don't think that a sex question should automatically be moved to the Sex With a Large Penis forum because the question may have more to do with sex with a vagina (what works and why) regardless of the size of the peen.

Likewise when it comes to communication difficulties between the sexes I wouldn't automatically relegate it to the Relationships forum because not only can women (perhaps) better explain the perceptions or behaviours the OP is having difficulty with but by being in the WI section means that men responding will also give it consideration as a possible gender difference issue in addition to personality difference.

Any guy genuinely seeking to understand the opposite sex better gets a thumbs up from me. They shouldn't be greeted with, "This is not a women's Issue!".

^ That.

 

[Kotchanski]

The sticky thread started, if I remember correctly was a stop gap solution until something better could be done or until the situation changed, and it's all well and good blaming the mods for not having done anything else, but when all we get is screams for a new forum (something we can't provide, individually or as a team) without any other suggestions, what exactly do you expect us to do?

Would you have me hold a gun to the owners head and demand that he create a forum to appease some of the posters here while others feel it is not required and without merit?

The mods do appreciate and understand there is a problem within the WI forum, though currently it is unclear as to where the problem is... Is it the threads being started? Is it the intolerance to those threads? Is it the women responding to those threads, thus supporting them being here? Is it the women reporting those threads? It is very clear from this thread alone that not even the women agree on the issue, so agreeing on how it is to be dealt with isn't going to happen any time soon.

I'm all for trying new suggestion when we're offered ones which can be achieved, and I'm all for being "told off" when people feel we're slacking, just not so much for being "told off" for not doing something we simply can't do!

So assuming (and I'm not saying it is) the sub-forum is a non-starter, what other suggestions do you have? How do you propose we appease both sides of the debate?

 

[Gillette]

How do you propose we appease both sides of the debate?

Women who only want women to respond can start threads in the Real Ladies Group forum.
Women who will only respond to women can do so in the Real Ladies Group forum.

Women who don't object to responding to, or getting responses from men on subjects pertaining to women may continue to do so in WI.

Cloister or free yourself accordingly.:wink:

 

[petite]

Well, I hope that no one feels told off by me. I very very rarely ever report threads for not being a woman's issue. My memory tells me that I've only done it twice, but it may be faulty. I was only expressing my opinion because my opinion a member of LPSG was requested. I completely understand that it's out of the moderators hands to create a sub-forum. I was simply stating my case.

And I feel like I'm just as much a member here as any man. I feel like I've made a significant contribution here and I've earned it, even though I don't have a penis. I don't feel like other women should be required to earn the feeling that they belong here, I guess I just feel like I shouldn't be made to feel like a second class citizen because I don't have a penis after I've contributed so much to the community and put so much effort into helping other people out who have asked for help, and the moderating staff here doesn't make me feel like that, which is something I appreciate.

I don't have any other suggestions at this time. I've already expressed what I feel is and is not a woman's issue. If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.

 

[D_Rosalind Mussell]

"Does this forum make my butt look big?"

No, but it gives it great curve and definition. :biggrin1:

 

[Ed69]

I'm a member of chubbyparade.com and they have a sub-forum for photo verified femals only.That means you have to prove with a face shot that you are female!This means you get to discuss womens issues without the males butting in.Lpsg has lots more money backing it than chubbyparade.So why can't you lock womens issues down to only photo verified ladys or make a sub-forum the male population can't get in too?It's a simple fix.