What is Beauty?

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  1. earllogjam

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    How do you know when something is beautiful? Is beauty important?

    The recognition of beauty is one of the things that make us uniquely human, but what is it? It is such an elusive term yet it is universal to everyone, not easily definable. It does have it's qualities though. I am thinking of the broader definition of beauty not limited to just visual aesthetics - a posting can be beautiful, an act, a performance, as can a poem, scientific proof...etc.

    What is beauty to you? What qualities make things beautiful?
     
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    What a good question.....I think the fact that 'beauty' is often used in the non-visual sense highlights one of the inadequacies of the English language. If only we had a more comprehensive vocabulary to use we might not end up talking in cliches so much.

    So in short I have no idea what beauty is, sorry
     
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    The thought behind the original post is beautiful. As much as I wish I had something insightful to say, I don't. I think beauty is impossible to define.
     
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    I think that beauty is something that one can take pleasure in.
     
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    The adage "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" remains one of the truest on the subject. We all have our individual preferences and biases. Still there are also some constants that seem to hold true for most of us. Symmetry and balance are big factors. What is familiar and thus comfortable also comes into play. So, we see things that mirror nature or things we've known and most of us see beauty. We are also very social creatures and will sometimes claim to see beauty in those things we've heard others say are beautiful. If such claims are repeated enough, we may actually come to see the bizarre and unnatural as beautiful.

    In women I find beauty in how confident they are without make-up and flashy attire.

    In men I find beauty in athleticism and minimal or no attire.

    In people, regardless of gender, attire, or physical appearance, I find beauty in thoughtful behavior, compassionate action, and graceful integrity.
     
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    In a narrow sense, physical beauty is quantifiable.

    1) Perfect symmetry. The more symetrical a
    person (or animal)is the more we preceive them as beautiful. Halle Berry is supposed to have a perfectly symetrical face. Can you take a picture of oneself and split it in two and have both halves look the same?

    2) Golden proportioned. 1.6 :1 ratio of proportions. 36/22/36. Golden ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ( fun reading)

    3) Vivid color. The reason why Paris Hilton who is brown eyed and haired opts to have blue eyes and blond hair. Our eye is drawn to that.
     
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    Weren't there a few more factors to beauty? I think harmony was one of them.
     
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    Thats all I could come up with off the top of my noggin ( sad cuz I deal with in my career, my memory is going)
     
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    I only remember that because it was in a program that I used to watch for school. I know that there are other factors, but I can't think of them either.

    It seems like your memory is still doing pretty well to me. . . .
     
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    I was going to post some gallery links, but I was afraid of leaving out someone deserving. :redface:
     
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    What is Beauty ????

    **Zip **
    Thud!!!!!

    Ta Da!!!!!!!!! :biggrin1:
     
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    The subjects of your two most recent threads, beauty and awe, are closely connected, I think. What few rambles I can write are pitifully inadequate to express either.

    Beauty is a glimpse of something greater than ourselves, something beyond our regular experience, something transcendent, eternal, divine. It is found in the harmony and symmetry of spaces, shapes, colors, or sounds where the whole is mysteriously greater than the sum of the parts; in the realization of how the chaotic and complex can be seen as simple and comprehensible; in acts, thoughts, and deeds that surpass our ordinary or expected capacity; in things that enable us to see, to feel, to experience more deeply. Beauty shocks us out of the grey and semi-aware state into which daily routines and mundane preoccupations can all too easily benumb us. Beauty is a reminder, a spur, an invitation to the human spirit.
     
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    I just look in the mirror every morning to remind myself what true beauty looks like. :tongue:
     
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    The subjectivity of the object, depends on the objectivity of the subject.
     
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    I actually think there are basically 2 kinds of beauty in the world. One is natural. Nature with all its power, elegance, harmony, and order. No hand of man created the beauty of photosynthesis or the delicate balance of ecosystems, structure of a leaf, aurora borealis, color of sunsets or the human body.

    The other is more interesting to me because it is the beauty created by man, far more complex to understand. It is value driven and has distinct characteristics but it's essence is purely the manifestation of love. It's all that we value and care about and hold dear to our hearts made into tangible form. It often is culturally specific but being that all cultures share common human desires and hopes beauty can often be recognized throughout mankind across all cultures. We value beauty because we can sense the care, thought, love that went into producing it. We can read that like unspoken words. We can read love when we see it in something. Some people have different value systems so their manifestations of beauty may be different that others - modern art, elegant mathematical proofs, music are cases in point. It often has no time limits or boundaries, it's infinite. That's why we are in awe when we encounter it. We ask how can this be.

    They are gifts we give each other and pass on, to cherish. We value beauty as we value love. That is why beauty has been part of all human civilizations because it is intrinsically a part of us, the best part of us. It's how we got this far. Boy that sounds preachy.
     
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    The visual or physical manifestation of pleasure.
     
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    Although I'm not sure all beauty is visual, or even sensual
     
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    Anything that pleasurably engages the senses. We tend to think of beauty as something experienced by the eye, but there is beauty in listening to music, inhaling the rich fragrance inside a bakery, running your fingers on soft skin, savouring the taste of your favourite fruit or sipping wine...
     
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    No, perhaps not necessarily visual (I edited before you cited) it could be music for example, but surely, by definition, beauty is sensual?
     
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    I'm a parmenidean monist on ths one with a sprinkling of platonic idea transcendence.
     
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