What is gayer for a str8 guy to do?

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Men: If you love eating and fucking pussy, sucking tits, have a girlfriend or wife and children; but enjoy having your ass filled with cock, or penetrating another mans ass, sucking cock or being sucked by a man and cannot imagine life without that. You are bi-sexual 50%/50%. It doesn't matter that you have never been in love with a man at that point; it is the inability to live life without anal sex or oral sex with a man that makes you bi-sexual.

That's just my 2 cents.
 

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Conduct your own little poll and you'll find that most straight guys have never had another guy's dick anywhere near their mouths. I don't know which is more gay than the other, since they're both homosexual acts. I think that's up to the individual to decide.

I don't know how the butt stuff happens, but, it seems to have happened more frequently than guys sucking other guys off. I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's because funny things happen with butts, so we're sort of used to them being a part of things. Butts fart. Butts stink. Butts get poked, slapped and kicked. Butts get flashed. Butts make funny noises. We grow up laughing at this stuff!

And yes, butts get all kinds of things, including penises, shoved into them,..and usually it was pretty funny. It wasn't like winning a softball game, but, forgivable. And kinda funny.

But, turning your mouth into a vagina? Do you really need an answer to this?
 

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Maybe the key word here is 'men'. There's lots of straight men, who have done crazy stuff with another male at some time in their lives, but consider themselves straight..and consider whatever they did way back when really, really crazy. Like "WTF were we thinking?!" :lol:

I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't about getting as many people as possible, particularly men, to identify as gay, in some effort to mainstream the gay lifestyle. If this is the intention, so be it; however, I don't think it's going to work. You may be able to find commonalities in behaviors/experiences shared by men identifying themselves as gay or straight, but getting them to similarly view or label these behaviors (as gay or straight, etc) is likely to prove next to impossible.

Conflicting cultural influences almost insure there will be no agreement on which behavior is gayer or str8er than the other. But good luck with that[?]
 

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I guess the question is, to str8 guys if you were forces to do one or the other which would you do, Get fucked in the ass or give head.

I pose this question because the porn "str8" star Peter North worked early in gay porn and he loved getting fucked (it was bareback back then in the early 80's) But I don't think he ever gave head.

I would think that getting penetrated in the ass was more of a violation, but I heard on a radio talk show that some str8 guys say they could never suck dick.
They are both very gay. Some men like to have things put up their ass though which means that is less gay since there is more a pleasure fact If a man is straight then he won't want to suck a cock but he may like having his ass fucked by a man with a nice cock. To know if it is real gay or just a passing thing is if it happens just a few times or it is searched for even after marrying
 

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Maybe the key word here is 'men'. There's lots of straight men, who have done crazy stuff with another male at some time in their lives, but consider themselves straight..and consider whatever they did way back when really, really crazy. Like "WTF were we thinking?!" :lol:
I think this is probably the reason that many of us make the distinction between youthful experimentation, and continued behaviors.
I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't about getting as many people as possible, particularly men, to identify as gay, in some effort to mainstream the gay lifestyle. If this is the intention, so be it; however, I don't think it's going to work. You may be able to find commonalities in behaviors/experiences shared by men identifying themselves as gay or straight, but getting them to similarly view or label these behaviors (as gay or straight, etc) is likely to prove next to impossible.
That may well have been the intent of the OP, but the fact remains that there is a difference between experimenting during youth, and continued behavior.

Using the word "lifestyle" was probably just a poor word choice on your part; there is no "gay lifestyle." But that's something that does invite more discussion. If the intent of the OP was to get more men to identify as gay in order to mainstream the concept of "gay," there's some validity to that. As long as men continue to engage in gay sex, but claim to be straight, they help to perpetuate that "gay" is not mainstream, and therefore contribute to societal homophobia.
 

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I think this is probably the reason that many of us make the distinction between youthful experimentation, and continued behaviors.That may well have been the intent of the OP, but the fact remains that there is a difference between experimenting during youth, and continued behavior.

Using the word "lifestyle" was probably just a poor word choice on your part; there is no "gay lifestyle." But that's something that does invite more discussion. If the intent of the OP was to get more men to identify as gay in order to mainstream the concept of "gay," there's some validity to that. As long as men continue to engage in gay sex, but claim to be straight, they help to perpetuate that "gay" is not mainstream, and therefore contribute to societal homophobia.

I honestly don't think that straight men accounting for their homosexual experience, however current or extensive, by identifying as gay is going to do anything, but confuse people even more than we're already confused. I think what we can safely acknowledge and, maybe, agree that some [SOME] homosexual experiences are more common or 'mainstream' than we've allowed ourselves to believe. It's our judgment of these behaviors that form the basis for the stigmatization and demonization of gay culture or whatever, etc.

Of two guys who cornholed each other a few times in junior highschool, but also dated girls, one may identify himself as straight, and the other as gay. Who are we to say one is wrong, and the other is right? It really depends on how they view the experiences they shared, I think.

I suggest that, if oral sex is not as common between males of any age as anal or butt-related [?] homosexual experiences, we may view oral sex between guys as gayer or more involved, than anal. Maybe, it's because sucking something is a little too much like kissing something, and we've firmly established that kissing between males is definitely gay. But, who knows why?
 

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I honestly don't think that straight men accounting for their homosexual experience, however current or extensive, by identifying as gay is going to do anything, but confuse people even more than we're already confused. I think what we can safely acknowledge and, maybe, agree that some [SOME] homosexual experiences are more common or 'mainstream' than we've allowed ourselves to believe. It's our judgment of these behaviors that form the basis for the stigmatization and demonization of gay culture or whatever, etc.

Of two guys who cornholed each other a few times in junior highschool, but also dated girls, one may identify himself as straight, and the other as gay. Who are we to say one is wrong, and the other is right? It really depends on how they view the experiences they shared, I think.

I suggest that, if oral sex is not as common between males of any age as anal or butt-related [?] homosexual experiences, we may view oral sex between guys as gayer or more involved, than anal. Maybe, it's because sucking something is a little too much like kissing something, and we've firmly established that kissing between males is definitely gay. But, who knows why?
Your quaint terminology aside, you are being purposefully dense. What is it that you do not understand about the difference between "youthful experimentation" and "continuing behavior"? If a teen tries sex with a same-gender teen, and decides it's not for him, that would make him straight. If a teen tries sex with a same-gender teen, decides he likes that and sex with the other gender, he is bisexual. If a teen tries same gender sex with a same-gender teen, and decides he likes it, but not sex with the other gender, then he is gay.

Experimentation in the past is not a determinant. Continuing sexual activity is.

If a man is straight, he does not seek out and engage in homosexual behavior, regardless of how he tries to rationalize or justify it.
 

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Fucking a dudes ass is as gay as one can get. I'm not signing up for having a dudes dick anywhere NEAR my mouth either, but, fucking a guys ass is just as gay as gay can get. I've slapped lots of guys on the ass, horsed around naked in the lockroom/showers, but to plow another dudes stink hole with my big stick, that is not ever going to happen. A dudes cock around my mouth, if its the only way to live or as a last option, ok, but well be doing it in the shower with a big bar of soap and im using all teeth. :biggrin1:
 

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Being forced implies that you don't have a choice...or any other choice besides a cock in your mouth or ass. If I was 100% straight, I imagine that I'd rather do the less painful thing and suck a cock. Just as long as he didn't bust a nut in my mouth cus then that'd make it totally gay and I would not down with that.
 

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Actually, the current occupants of the Executive Branch are paying millions of dollars for scientists to do research in the FDA, NASA, EPA, etc., etc., and then they ignore it all so that the facts don't interfere with their political ideology and/or their religious beliefs.


Give me a break. The leaders of both parties do it. I still wish H. Ross Perot had won. It might have caused such a shakeup the nation would be in better shape.
 

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Give me a break. The leaders of both parties do it. I still wish H. Ross Perot had won. It might have caused such a shakeup the nation would be in better shape.

No, the leaders of both parties don't "do it." Tell me a SCIENTIFIC fact that has been rejected by a top Democrat because of his/her RELIGION. On the other hand, the examples in the Bush administration go on and on, much worse than the Reagan administration. I can't think of or find a single example in any Democratic administration during the entire 20th century.