B_henry miller
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This has gotten really long-winded now and I'm pretty overwhelmed with it all. I thinkt hat originally I had said that two guys beating off together was not in and of itself "gay." To that, I mentioned that many straight men beat off in the same room together, or even beat off in a "circle jerk" type of situation.
Frankly, I don't find the original poster's question ("Which is gayer?") all that interesting or intriguing. I'm having trouble remembering why I posted in this thread to begin with.
Frankly, I don't find the original poster's question ("Which is gayer?") all that interesting or intriguing. I'm having trouble remembering why I posted in this thread to begin with.
Henry, you sort made my point for me. I thought I made that pretty clear back there.
The original question was concerning oral sex and anal sex--which was considered gayer [?] to do?
Where I'm from, you just didn't ask another guy to put his dick in your mouth or to gobble on yours; even entertaining that idea was considered unpardonably queer, and you'd never be looked at the same again. And let me clarify that there was no age at which this was not considered a serious perversion.
Dicks just didn't go in another guy's mouth. No discussion necessary.
Truthfully, I don't know or understand the attitudes toward butt-related stuff; it was just different. Guys regularly grabbed, slapped, smacked, kicked, dry-humped and jabbed with sticks at each other's asses, and it was funny to everybody,..except, on rare occasion, the owner of those abused butt cheeks. After you avenged your bruised pride, even the poor target eventually laughed the whole thing off. Covered or bare didn't matter; if you had a butt, you could count on it eventually being attacked by something.
This attitude, up into (maybe) the midteens, extended to cornholing (anal) and getting corned. It was reviled as nasty or gross by anybody even remotely familiar with it, but, for some bizarre reason, was approached with the same gender-disconnected enthusiasm as mooning the neighbors or snapping a towel at your buddy's bare ass, after your PE class. For whatever reason, cornholing just wasn't registering on anybody's radar as gay or even thought of as real sex, and I honestly don't know why that was.
It was probably, when no girls were immediately available, a wild expression of boredom, desperation and horniness between two males that didn't diminish the masculinity of either participant.
From everything I've seen, when compared to butt play of any kind, mouth-to-body contact between straight guys has been almost non-existent. To go back to the original question submitted, I suggest that sucking anything, especially an erectpecker, is too much like kissing, and kissing between guys is universally regarded as 'gay'.
Therefore, and it's just my opinion, I must conclude that oral sex between guys will be regarded by most straight men as gayer than anal sex.