What Is It With Americans?

[B_big dirigible]

It occurs to me that stonings, beheadings, and lynchings have simply been replaced by systematic harassment coupled with a steady erosion of human rights. In other words, working within the system.

Oh, those wacky Americans, always stoning or beheading somebody.

Even our aboriginals at their most enthusiastic moments were never noted for either atrocity. Burning and flaying, mostly, or bashing in heads. Noble Red Man, in harmony with nature, blah blah.

The last death by stoning I heard of was in the late 1960s. In Switzerland. Hard to blame the US for that. And the last beheading wasn't 'round these parts either.

 

[agnslz]

It occurs to me that stonings, beheadings, and lynchings have simply been replaced by systematic harassment coupled with a steady erosion of human rights. In other words, working within the system.

True - but again, to a point.
I come from a "swing" state that is more socially conservative than it is fiscally so. I as a gay man in New Mexico have encountered some institutionalized bigotry, but not a whole lot! Maybe it's because we have so many elected Democrats at the state level. As for the U.S. as a whole, I'd say it may be more so, if only because Republicans dominate on the national level. Again, I believe this will change soon! Most Republicans - I believe - don't really hold such conservative or fundamentalist views. They just cowtow and are beholden to those that do - for money, votes and other things they need from them to be elected.

 

[that_other_guy]

Ah yes! BJU, I know it well!:biggrin1::tongue:

yeah ... their campus is in my city ... about 20 minutes away from my house actually

I've visited, and I have friends who live in the middle part of the USA. It's night and day.

I by no means live in the middle ... and as one who has traveled throughout the US, I can't really agree with you.

 

[rob_just_rob]

I by no means live in the middle ... and as one who has traveled throughout the US, I can't really agree with you.

Have you traveled anywhere else?

I can't really agree with you either.

 

[rob_just_rob]

Oh, those wacky Americans, always stoning or beheading somebody.

Metaphorically speaking, yes.

Speaking literally, no. Some places behead, some lynch, some stone, some burn, etc. There is a long lynching tradition in certain parts of the USA. I'm sure you'll agree that you're equally dead whether you are stoned, beheaded, lynched, burned, etc.

 

[B_nocock2big4me]

Ah America.... home of the puritans! No wonder the brits refer to us as "provincial"

 

[agnslz]

Oh, those wacky Americans, always stoning or beheading somebody.

Even our aboriginals at their most enthusiastic moments were never noted for either atrocity. Burning and flaying, mostly, or bashing in heads. Noble Red Man, in harmony with nature, blah blah.

The last death by stoning I heard of was in the late 1960s. In Switzerland. Hard to blame the US for that. And the last beheading wasn't 'round these parts either.

Big D (if I may call you that), do you ever read ALL the posts before YOU go off on your own rantings? We were referring to what daldude97 posted, earlier in this thread! He seems to be of your school of thought and I wonder why you get so rowled up over something that I took from his post? I actually agree partly with what you and he think!:redface:

Nice jab at our Native American Indian friends BTW.

 

[agnslz]

yeah ... their campus is in my city ... about 20 minutes away from my house actually

So you are familiar with their BlowJob classes?:biggrin1:

(That's what I meant BTW. I was making fun of their initials):tongue::wink:

 

[Gisella]

I dont know why cultures are the way they are really, I'm learning...

But the christianism in Brasil is catholic but is mix with indigenous and African practices...people really dont practice what they preach anyways...

I'm shallow and describe what i feel people as cold or hot...:redface:

Anyways now I mess up in a way that I lived in both cultures and I like things in both...at same time i like to be physically ever touched and kissed in Brasilian way I get annoyed when i get in to a line and people invade my space, cut in front of me and etc... :biggrin1:

I wish I could have all the goods in both culture and that that the bad things were not present..well..its not possible. Dont dont how to deal with millions of individualls as they were one mass...its complicate to my brains... I like people I want to understand them if they let me.

Well...

But I still have the 'me' that i love inside and can learn to work in things that i find ugly and touch things i dont want face and put outside to get rid off...I'm a work in progress not done yet.

I cant stagnate I want to grow always and understand me and you wherever you are in the globe and I like you.

Ps: I'm in my world love all peoples mood!:smile:

 

[Lex]

It is stereotypically America and, to a lesser degree, human, to point out how more fucked up other people and their cultures/religions/value systems are whenever your own is challenged.

It's called deflection and is used to avoid examining your own behaviors which, while "better" than those of others, may still fall far short of anyone's ideal.

We who live on either coast in America view the midwest and south in much the same way some Christians had said they view Muslim teachings. The truth is that was can all stand to grow, albeit, some have further to go than others in that regards, based soley upon where they currently stand.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

It is stereotypically American and, to a lesser degree, human, to point out how more fucked up other people and their cultures/religions/value systems are whenever your own is challenged.

This thread encapsulates why circumcision has survived so long in the U.S. We are simultaneously the most prurient and the most repressed society on earth.

Repression = aggression. Repression and excess go hand in hand.

 

[rob_just_rob]

Oh good, back to circumcision. I guess being away for 2 weeks wasn't long enough.

 

[fkaKyuhaku]

what really bothers me is the blurring out of nudity on TV, as if our own mortal bodies are indeed not beautiful, but hideous and disgraceful. Look at Japan for example. Saturday mouning cartoons can, and often will have full frontal nudity (not in a perverted way), and this is accepted simply because thety do not view the naked body as a sin. The children grow up with it right in front of them, and there is no confusion. The same thing goes for saying curse words there.

Sigh...:shrug:

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Oh good, back to circumcision. I guess being away for 2 weeks wasn't long enough.

Maybe you have something more substantive to say.

 

[agnslz]

what really bothers me is the blurring out of nudity on TV, as if our own mortal bodies are indeed not beautiful, but hideous and disgraceful. Look at Japan for example. Saturday mouning cartoons can, and often will have full frontal nudity (not in a perverted way), and this is accepted simply because thety do not view the naked body as a sin. The children grow up with it right in front of them, and there is no confusion. The same thing goes for saying curse words there.

Sigh...:shrug:

Really? Hmm, from what I've always heard Japan is much more repressive than the U.S. is on sex and nudity. They have far more taboos and are quite uncomfortable with sex, I've always thought! Oh well, I guess you learn something new everyday.:biggrin1:

BTW, I just learned about YOU today (I've never seen your posts before) and you are quite a beautiful man!:wink: You have an amazing set of pictures and dick!:redface: You being straight, I hope you'll take that as the compliment it is!:smile:

 

[DaveyR]

Really? Hmm, from what I've always heard Japan is much more repressive than the U.S. is on sex and nudity. They have far more taboos and are quite uncomfortable with sex, I've always thought!

I may be because that is what the US establishment leads you to believe.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

I heard from a friend who stayed in Japanese capsule hotels several times while on visa trips while going to school in Korea, that the Japanese porn in the capsules was more sadomasochistic than erotic for his taste.

 

[agnslz]

I may be because that is what the US establishment leads you to believe.

Well if the Travel, Discovery and History Channels are part of the "US establishment" I guess that's so!:biggrin1: Really though, I've heard and seen these things said about Japan by people with absolutely no agenda! I tend to believe it too. Japan has a very old culture which has always been based upon 'respect' and 'modesty'. This is why I find it incredible to hear that they have nudity on cartoons and that the children grow up with nudity and curse words? I find it hard to imagine that a country so steeped in tradition (with an emporer no less!) and honor for the 'old ways' is actually as described above!

Edit: I know that there are elements of the Japanese people who are more open about these things (the young people esp.) but I don't think it is the majority of the population at all! In fact, Japan has one of the oldest populations in the world. I think the dirty anime and SM porn are the 'underground' of that culture and in no way 'mainstream'!

 

[DaveyR]

Well if the Travel, Discovery and History Channels are part of the "US establishment" I guess that's so!:biggrin1: Really though, I've heard and seen these things said about Japan by people with absolutely no agenda! I tend to believe it too. Japan has a very old culture which has always been based upon 'respect' and 'modesty'. This is why I find it incredible to hear that they have nudity on cartoons and that the children grow up with nudity and curse words? I find it hard to imagine that a country so steeped in tradition (with an emporer no less!) and honor for the 'old ways' is actually as described above!

What I posted was not my opinion it was merely a suggested possibility. I do however understand where you are coming from with your thoughts on Japan.

What is your understanding on censorship of TV etc in Europe? Just interested in your perception from a US point of view.

 

[10.5andproudofit]

idk cultural differences? our country, regardless of claiming seperation of church and state, has never really seperated the two.

hell the church still makes and breaks elections here. if it wasn't for the strong religious push, it could be argued the last election might not have ended as it did. (not wanting a political flame war but grant me the notion that in some parts of the country the church and religion still weighs heavy on political influence)