What is the 2nd sphincter?

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  1. arkfarmbear

    arkfarmbear New Member

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    I've seen comments here and other places from guys who say they were able to accomodate a very long dick because there is a "second sphincter" that will allow it.
    I've been sexually active for eons and I've never been with anyone who was able to handle more than 6 or 7 inches, myself included.
    I've seen videos that show fisting bottoms with tops up to their elbows inside. I've always wondered how that was possible?
    Is the 2nd sphincter what makes it possible without horrible internal injuries to the bottom?
     
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    Is it something every guy can do or is it some unusual physical characterestic that makes it possible. Am I missing out on some incredible degree of pleasure for not knowing about and utilizing it?
    I'm not interested in fisting either as a top or bottom.
    I'm just curious about if I can accomodate long dicks comfortably.
     
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    Well technically the mouth is a sphincter. ;)
     
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    well that's interesting. never heard that.
     
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    I appreciate the referral but I am as confused as I was when I posted originally.

    I'm prone to believe the information as opposed to the "comments" because anyone can post anything they want, true or not.
    I'm going to stick with what I have done in the past, and I've never had any damage. I've been fortunate that no partners have ignored my instructions to stop, slow down, etc. And, most partners do not have any desire to harm or hurt their partners. At least that is what I've experienced and heard from other guys.
    And, it is possible that the videos remove the scenes of blood and misery and it happens to the porn stars, too, but the "rest of the story" is deleted.
    That seems totally irresponsible and immoral if they do so. But, people do lots of things that harm themselves and others for the money.
     
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    I have been fisting ass since 1982, and I had an expert bottom teach me precisely how to do it, what to feel for, etc. I'm not a proctologist, so I am sadly uninformed regarding proper nomenclature, but I understand what the "second sphincter" is, where it's located, etc.

    It's a second ring of muscle that, essentially, closes the rectum from the colon beyond. In most guys (and women, presumably), this occurs anywhere from five to seven inches past the anus. Some bottoms, whether because they are less experienced or because their "second sphincter" is especially tight (or close), need special care in opening them up thoroughly and enough for something larger than a five-six inch cock. Some prefer that this be done digitally, others prefer toys, still others will eventually relax, and with enough time and patience will open up completely on their own with just your cock. There are no hard and fast rules here: everybody's different.

    I'm sure that an unprepared ass subjected to unfettered pounding could suffer extreme damage, but I find it unlikely in the extreme that any porn producer would risk such harm to his/her talent (and the possible liability such an injury might provoke) to allow such things to be routine. Always remember that porn is very carefully edited to maximize the fantasy at the expense of the actual reality of what's going on: this is as much for gay as it is for straight porn. What appears to be an unprepared ass being "assaulted" by a "massive" dick is so grossly irresponsible as to (practically) never actually happen.

    That's not to say never: never say never. But the chance of anyone documenting such abuse ranges from highly improbable to nil: there are simply too many well-paid professionals on a porn set to allow that to happen. "Amateur" productions and companies specializing in especially brutal porn might not be quite as cautious, but for such a thing to happen in a "mainstream" shoot just doesn't make sense, and remember that most "amateur" or "brutal" porn is as carefully lit, rehearsed and prepared for as any other type: it only appears less so.

    It should be said that extreme assplay of any kind is not to be attempted haphazardly. Ideally both participants should have sufficient experience to know not just their own, but each other's bodies, too. I have the good sense and judgment to only play sober (myself) and with a partner who's both willing and experienced. I have no interest whatsoever in "trying something new" with a novice to such extreme play. Handled with patience, care and constant intercommunication, all of which is essential, extreme assplay, whether with toys or fists/arms should not pose any danger to either party: anything else is grossly irresponsible and should be subject to both civil and criminal prosecution, as it cannot be consensual.
     
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    brownie points for Bbucko's Informative post.
     
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    I'm not anally receptive, but I have seen my second sphincter when I had a colonoscopy. It's at the top of the rectum and leads into the colon itself, the sigmoid (S-shaped) section. I'm not sure how wise it is to be penetrated that far, as the colon is not as elastic as the rectum. What does vary from person to person is the amount of connective tissue holding the colon in place. If there's less it's more flexible.

    Potential confusion can arise because there are actually two sphincters at the anus, an outer and inner, but they are intimately connected and there's no gap between them. The outer anal sphincter is subject to some conscious control, (you can clench it) the inner is not.
     
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    Bbucko and Mark Landon. Thanks for the education!
     
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    I don't know exactly what or where it is, but I know that when you have that baby opened up it's like heaven.
     
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    You're welcome :cool:

    And ML is entirely right when he says that the "second" inner sphincter is not a voluntary muscle like the one(s) around the anus itself.

    It's not for nothing that I've always maintained that the most intimate act possible between two men involves fisting: it's really a devastating, deeply emotional experience for both the top and the bottom. You very literally have a man's life in your hands. It's "awesome" in the true context of the word.

    I use the word "play" because it's part of the current vocabulary involving sexual acts, not because I take it lightly at all.

    That's what they tell me, baby; that's why I enjoy it so much :biggrin1:
     
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    I've heard of an increasingly large group of heterosexuals that use anal sex in their options for sex.( The guy performing anal sex to his woman.)
    I wonder if it is a common occurrence for Emergency Room Doctors to see patients who have been injured as a result of anal sex?
     
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    Given the fact that:

    1) Most younger guys these days have a view of sexuality with is highly influenced by porn;
    2) Women are much less likely than gay men to have much experience with anal sex;
    3) Neither partner is apt to have the level of knowledge and experience required to make a successful anal encounter possible (prep/douching, slow and deliberate opening-up foreplay, understanding that a [relatively] pain-free penetration can take a great deal of time with a novice, the fact that anal penetration puts the penis in "novel" areas of a woman's body which might not be expected or appreciared, etc);
    4) The fact that, while initially assented to, the woman's reaction might involve a retraction of consent while the act is taking place but not respected ("I'm almost there: just a little more");

    I wouldn't doubt it at all.
     
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    it is a 2nd sphincter deep inside the anus i hit with my boyfriend all the time, hes not happy until i reach it....... i have also experienced this myself. most guy stop the dik from reaching it as the feeling is new and intense
     
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    Ever since I turned 50 my doctor has badgered me about getting a colonoscopy but I've never consented.
    After reading everyone's posts I am now going to schedule one. I'll be awake during the procedure, therefore, I am going to ask the dr to explain MY 2nd sphincter as I watch the monitor. And, whether or not I can safely let a guy get that deep, and do so without it being painful and/or dangerous. I'm a chicken when it comes to doing activity of any kind that is risky to any part of my body.
     
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    This is a little off-topic, but you'd better ask your questions before the procedure (and in private). Yes, you will be awake during the actual procedure but they usually dope you up so you can't speak or feel the equipment snake through your insides while they give you a look-over.
    But don't let that deter you from getting the procedure done. It can be life-saving.
     
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    There is also a barium xray which is less invasive. I had to resort to that as I had a colon too long to be scanned by the internal camera device.
     
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    No that one is not quite like the other, it involves injury and testimony of one guy which other topics don't have!
     
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