What is wrong with girls?! feedback needed.

[TheRob]

UPDATE:

Can you see a "seen" message notification on FB if you messaged someone who has not added you? Cause I nessaged her tonight & FB says "seen" and she has yet to add me!

So she is playing games? Why be friendly in person AGAIN and then ignore me on FB?

I've had ppl friend request me and I can see the little icon go red but I can't see who the person is for a day or even two!

let me ask you this are you sure the girl is worth the trouble?

 

[TheRob]

Some things i'm confused about.

If it works for you, why comment on it or ask women questions at all at any point for any reason?

If you are in fact a jerk now, doesn't that mean you have no fucks to give when it comes to emotions?

And if the above is true, how come guys like you are usually theeeeee moooostttt emotional/confrontational/so easy to piss off?

he didn't ask anyone anything in this thread he was responding
acting like a jerk and being a jerk is not the same
because usually guys do not WANT to be that way it is just what they have gotten success from

 

[TheRob]

I know, because it takes all the blame off of her and makes you consider your own issues as to why it feels like you finish last.

If you go from treating women nicely to being an asshole to get pussy, you really aren't a nice guy pretending to be an asshole. You are 100% asshole.

if you look at things objectively blame is usually dividable between both parties, not always 50/50 but it's rarely ever 100% one way...

you simply can NOT argue that there are no women who like bad boys just like you can't really say there are not ladies who prefer nice guys

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Why does everything have to be black or white. I never said there are no women who do such and such. I'm speaking for the regular healthy minded female population. I stay away from crazy bitches and so should others.

I have never understood the concept of liking a bad guy. I like decent guys, the ones that don't blame women for all of their problems.

You seem to be on a perpetual rant about women as of late. It's unbecoming.

 

[TheRob]

I have a sensitive, nice loving guy and he gets some pretty wild sex on the regular. How do you explain that? It's probably because I'm not some "basic bitch" at the dance club looking to get free drinks out of you. I do have plenty of nice dudes that get rejected by me all the time. Are they being rejected because they are nice? Hell no. They are being rejected for many other reasons.

you just said you had your marriage in a poly set up for awhile
that's fine if you and your husband wanted that to be the way but you have to consider that if someone is not after that kind of relationship it might not be a great example for them

 

[TexanStar]

because usually guys do not WANT to be that way it is just what they have gotten success from

So usually, when guys mistreat women, it's actually the women's fault for that behavior because that's what women respond to.

Gotcha.

 

[TheRob]

Why does everything have to be black or white. I never said there are no women who do such and such. I'm speaking for the regular healthy minded female population. I stay away from crazy bitches and so should others.

I have never understood the concept of liking a bad guy. I like decent guys, the ones that don't blame women for all of their problems.

You seem to be on a perpetual rant about women as of late. It's unbecoming.

you said 'it takes all the blame off of her'
this is why I made my commentary

 

[TheRob]

PREACH, my sister!

I'll tell you shy guys what one of my close friends learned and told me. He had an attractive face. I'm usually turned off a little by blue eyes, but his are so soulful, and exotic in his tan Latin face. He also has beautiful, curly, light brown hair, and an easy smile. At the time, he was morbidly obese, but he had already lost over 100 pounds and was still going. (He is still overweight, but more average in build, just maybe 15-20 pounds of padding.) You could tell looking at him that he was gentle, even though he was 6'4", and if you spoke to him for 5 minutes he'd have you in tears laughing so hard. He's the funniest guy I know. These days he's got confidence to spare, but back in the day he was awful shy.

He used to work in a mall that was really high end, as a baker in a pastry shop. He worked with a guy who was barely 5' tall, and really unattractive physically. Nice guy, but butt ugly. Bad skin. Weird hair. Awkwardly put together features. No fashion sense. Still, dozens of stunningly beautiful women used to come to their shop daily just to day hello to him for a few minutes. They often didn't even buy anything, they just wanted to have a quick chat.

So, my friend asked him what his secret was. The ugly fella told him that he made it his business to talk to every beautiful woman he saw. Sometimes they'd stop and talk to him, sometimes he was ignored. If they spoke, he paid attention and remembered the discussion as best he could so he could build on that rapport. Consequently, he was adored by dozens of beautiful women, and lavished with attention.

Women are just people, no matter how you feel about them. Just talk.

the problem with this is, there are too many people who would call the guy a player just for chatting

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

you just said you had your marriage in a poly set up for awhile
that's fine if you and your husband wanted that to be the way but you have to consider that if someone is not after that kind of relationship it might not be a great example for them

I'm curious, what OTHER qualities besides being a "nice" guy do you bring to the table for a woman to desire you? Everytime you post you are looking for wank fodder or bitching about women. You can tell you've been holding this all in for a long time. Maybe you should seek a therapist to help you work through those issues.

Most women aren't interested in a whiny woman hater with Mommy issues. Usually a man's hatred for women starts at a very young age.

You've been coming off as a semi-decent individual until yesterday when you let whatever is going on in your mind get the best of you.

 

[TheRob]

Because of bullying behavior that continued well into adulthood, I avoided women like plague whenever possible. I eventually realized that I rub a lot of females the wrong way. Eventually I came to accept that it's ME, not them. I was presented, therefore, with a choice. Either I could change, or find my fit. Changing wasn't a savory option, but eventually I found my fit. Women who have much in common with me are easy for me to understand, and seem to like me enough to treat me with courtesy as long as I deserve courtesy. And when I'm not deserving, and I get the fangs, I have no problem apologizing and getting the relationship lined out again. I doubt anyone gets along with everyone. @Masterpumper just needs to get to that place.

I'm sorry you were bullied

 

[TheRob]

The.pharmaceutical companies pay for my expensive medications because I am uninsured. They cover what would be thousands of dollars a month. Why would a pharmaceutical company pay for someone else's meds if their only goal is profits?

in general I try to give people the benefit of the doubt so I'd like to say they do it because its the right thing to do BUT I do recognize that there could be a number of reasons. They may have received government funds to develop the drug and the way of paying that back is they have to provide X amount of drug to people who could not afford it

 

[TheRob]

The sentence I isolated, in context had nothing to do with what you just wrote . You originally wrote that most people have a personality disorder. No, no most people do not. That it is a deviation is part of what makes disordered behaviors disorders. We are not merely talking about weird quirks. Nobody treats or medicated or even diagnoses quirks. You're backpedalling. It's okay to be wrong. It's okay that you're parroting a doctor who was wrong. Wrong happens.

this is the problem, if personality disorder is defined as differing from socieital norms that means we have to classify homosexuality as one....

also how large of a sample do we use for "society" the country you are in? or is it more local? like city? or is it larger like the entire world?

for those (and other) reasons when ppl talk about personality disorder generally they are looking at what the definition of a 'well adjusted' individual would be considered.
which means the majority of people can be defined as having personality disorders, I understand that it is counterintuitive and I am not saying I actually agree with it, in fact I agree more with your thinking. But I'm telling you how it follows logic within the field.

 

[michael_3165]

After she said "maybe" after I said does she wanna come along so I didn't want to seem too interested...

Do you realise it is the guys job to do the running around? If she is a model she will be used to gets wanting to get with her. If you don't then she may just take offence or think 'screw him then'.

 

[TheRob]

I'm curious, what OTHER qualities besides being a "nice" guy do you bring to the table for a woman to desire you? Everytime you post you are looking for wank fodder or bitching about women. You can tell you've been holding this all in for a long time. Maybe you should seek a therapist to help you work through those issues.

Most women aren't interested in a whiny woman hater with Mommy issues. Usually a man's hatred for women starts at a very young age.

You've been coming off as a semi-decent individual until yesterday when you let whatever is going on in your mind get the best of you.

so in reverse order, you claimed to have been onto me being a bad guy since day one but here you say I was coming off as a semi-decent individual until yesterday (when I told you that you were wrong about something) so which is it?

I don't hate women, you have a flawed definition of misogyny which seems to basically be "disagreeing with a woman" that simply is not how it works.

this is a sex site so it's pretty normal to be looking for wank fodder here I mean, it's not like I'm on facebook asking for titty pics.....
Talking to someone might be cool like therapy style but I don't really have problems that I am aware of. Tho I do know not being aware of a problem is not the same as it not being there, I could use a sports psychologist tho. I am told I am capable of winning worlds in BJJ if I got my conditioning up a bit and actually tried but I have very little desire to win. People often tell me they have never seen anyone as calm as I am in competition, sadly they also often tell me they have never seen anyone with so much ability do so poorly lol.
I think the problem is you see me call someone on their bullshit and you don't recognize it's me speaking out against something I feel is wrong, you only recognize that the person I'm telling they are wrong is a woman so you assume I am a misogynist. This likely stems from not wanting to have to defend your own points in a debate so instead retreat behind the claim that the other side has bias. When I tell a man he is an idiot am I also a manhater? If your argument or statement can't stand up to criticism the critic is not wrong, your statement is.

As far as what I bring to the table as a boyfriend, aside from being nice. It is difficult to answer properly when I have never been my own boyfriend but I will sum up what I feel are highpoints and things I have heard from former g/fs.
So we have covered the being nice part, people have put forth that being nice and being a good person can be different. Fair point, I will also proffer that I am a good person. I am in general quite well liked by people. I am easy going as far as what to do with our free time when in a relationship, so I'm not controlling at all. That should be standard really but I list it as a highpoint because frankly a lot of people are controlling.
I am open minded when it comes to what kind of relationship a girl may want. I am ok with FWB situations, monogamous relationships, open relationships and D/s or BDSM relationships. I have been a submissive girls Master before. As far as that last part I have been experienced as a Dom since I was in highschool so my skills are fairly refined in that area. But I am also fine if a girl has no interest in that lifestyle.
As far as looks it just depends, if you like the Bear type I'm your dream guy. This is almost only ever appealing to gay guys but there are a few women that favor the build as well. I'm extremely large of build and strong with rather muscular arms. I'm quite protective and have a pretty good sense of humor, I have made everyone I know in person laugh multiple times with my jokes. Tho some of my jokes are quite corny I can hone in on someones sense of humor fairly quickly and use the jokes they would be into.
I listen well, usually with general interest. Unless she is telling me about makeup. I just don't care about makeup and I don't like to fake it.
I'm considerate sexually, I have a really big dick, stamina is good to. I am big into fulfilling my girls' fantasies if I can.
I'm financially stable and very much enjoy gift giving, tho sometimes I am asked not to buy things for people because they are not in a position to return anything and I try to respect that to avoid making them feel bad but it can be tough.
I'm also very real, and honest. You for example Tat Goddess may not like me, but you never have to wonder if I am just being nice to you or kissing your ass to get you to post more nude pics. I like looking at you naked and I am 100% up front about that. You may not like it but it is the truth and you have the right to know that. You never have to wonder where you stand with me. I'd rather be disliked for who I am rather then be liked for a lie.
I am also very helpful, in my BJJ class I am the most willing to help the newbies.
I wrote a good bit here don't think I covered it all really but I'm sure it will be used as an attack by some because I will be said to have too high an opinion of myself but I have only told the truth.
Anyway I have to be doing something right, I have never had a girl break up with me because we did not get along it has always been because of one of us moving and the long distance thing just not working out.

 

[TheRob]

So usually, when guys mistreat women, it's actually the women's fault for that behavior because that's what women respond to.

Gotcha.

Well, is the woman staying with him despite how he treats her?

 

[TheRob]

I used to post on bodybuilding.com, it was under a different screen name btw, and the posters there hated me for the most part because I called them out on their BS all the time, similar to that thread actually lol.

I used to post there to, been a long time tho

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Good to know.

 

[TexanStar]

Well, is the woman staying with him despite how he treats her?

For the sake of argument, let's say yes. A woman is staying with a man who mistreats her.

You're saying that usually it is the fault of her and others like her... that the man would've preferred not to mistreat her, but that's what keeps them, so he treats her badly when he secretly prefers to treat her with kindness & respect...

 

[TexanStar]

You for example Tat Goddess may not like me, but you never have to wonder if I am just being nice to you or kissing your ass to get you to post more nude pics. I like looking at you naked and I am 100% up front about that.

Your profile posting history suggests that you hold this opinion of every woman on the site

 

[Tattooed Goddess]

Never pretend to be an asshole to get a woman. You don't want to pair up with someone that requires that level of drama and trauma to be happy. It will ultimately be your down fall. I tell women the same thing. Stay away from crazy.