What is your America?

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  1. seterwind

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    Seems like a good High School essay question. I'm Canadian and never had anything like it. But I wonder, what is the America the Conservatives want? Really I mean, deep down what is there perfect Ideal?

    I'm a liberal so I'll start with what I believe liberals want as the perfect America. Health care for all, Equal rights for all people no matter sexual orientation, no matter the race. Freedom to live in which ever way one deems correct, without impeding on the rights of others, and as long as it is responsible. A country where everyone has the opportunity to live happily as long as they contribute positively to society.

    A country where 40 hours worked a week pays well enough to acquire the basic needs and common wants, and 70 hours worked a week pays for much more then that. A country which people can be proud to call their own, and not embarrassed by political squabbles, pointless wars, and horrendous pollution laws.

    A country that would care about how it effects the environment and the other nations surrounding it. A country that can work together with like nations, and have the force still to defend it self.

    These are things I know Liberals want for America, what do the GOP and Tea baggers want?
     
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    busch light, copenhagen, and guns. also porn is quite popular
     
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    neither side wants "political squabbles", they just want their own way.
     
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    My ideal America is a place where people really respected each other's differences. Where the status quo didn't care if people followed the status quo.
     
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    if that happened, what would be the fun of rejecting the status quo?
     
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    I think I'll quote this after every long-winded diatribe sure to follow.:wink:
     
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    You can't reject a status quo if it never existed.
     
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    ah, but some will only look at cheap zirconium
     
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    Sometimes we are just "too different" to be accepted or respected by those who find us too different from themselves. Having discourse about our differences reveals more similarities than contrasts. But the opportunity has to be there to communicate our thoughts to each other, not just a hit and run rejection notice from one side. If acceptance isn't there, then I guess that means love is out of the question. NDLKT
     
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    A great question sesterwind. But I don't think these GOP and Teabagger agitators have any coherent plan or shared policy they would like to put in place. They are not "for" anything. It is what they are against that defines them.

    They are predominantly (85%+) conservatives, republicans, or both. And they are very sore losers. For 20 plus years, their party leaders and AM talk radio have repeatedly told them that the Democrats are elitist traitors bent on destroying the country, and they have taken the message to heart. So much so, that many are unwilling to accept any Democratic President, much less a black one.

    So they make up conspiracies (Obama's not even a real American! Where's his Birth Certificate?), become suddenly concerned about "big government" (It was the Bush Administration and Republicans who pushed and passed the Patriot Act, which legalizes warrentless domestic spying and nullifies habeus corpus), and start wringing their hands over the deficit (yet over 90% of the current US deficit was caused by the previous conservative administration's tax and spending policies). If this stuff REALLY concerns them, where where they six years ago? How convenient that they get all uppity once the Democrat (and did we mention that he was a ne-gro?) arrives in the White House.

    Nothing will change the fact that Tebaggers and the GOP are little more than a bunch a scared and bitter white people who claim they love the US Constitution but seem unwilling to abide by it's primary lesson: that the President and Congress are elected by majority rule. Democrats won their majorities fair-and-square. They are constitutionally entitled to govern. Obama isn't doing ANYTHING now that he did discuss 1000 times on the campaign trail before Americans elected him in 2008.

    The GOP and Teabaggers had their chance to run the country. They screwed up everything. Voters got rid of them. Now its time for the reality-based adults to run the country. I wish they'd sit down and shut up (or at the very least, try and be more civil) while Obama and Democrats work hard to clean up their mess.
     
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    :eek:why not just drink piss?
     
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    :eek:why not just drink piss?................different thread
     
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    European beer is the best, but i shouldnt see this as Pieterjoke will start lecturing me on Belgian beers.:wink:
     
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