What is your stance on abortion?

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Got to say I am pro-life, abortion should only be used when there is a danger to the life of the mother, tests show the unborn child will not make it full turm or as a result of a rape etc. if you don't want to get pregnant then don't have sex, if you consider yourself mature to engage in sex, then you should be mature enough to cope with the outcome - loads of people want to adopt, what really is the issue with carrying another life for 9 months then handing it over to be raised by a loving family? Which is more damaging to the mother? The act of abortion or giving the baby up for adoption?
 

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As an abortion doctor I LOVE abortions! It's what pays for my vacations, season football tickets, cars and other wonderful things. Besides, we need to do more to protect mother Earth and keeping down the numbers of humans is a good start. I always get a kick out of smashing that little bastard's head with my forceps as I exclaim "See ya! Wouldn't want to be ya!" lol! Thank God (oh wait a minute, there is none!) those little pieces of filth don't have a say in the matter! If they did I'd actually have to help people! lol!

Anyway, I actually think the abortion laws are way too restrictive. It should always be the woman's choice and I think even children should be able to have their meaningless lives snuffed out if the woman decides later that she made a mistake in having the little bastard. I mean, I don't think life really starts until you can actually walk, right? So as long as they're still crawling we should be able to take a hammer to their fucking head.

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An enlightened, loving liberal abortion doctor

Why dont you just give your views without all these dramatic attempts at irony? Maybe then others would listen to what you are trying to say, rather than being distracted by the provocative way in which you say it. As demonstrated on other threads, some people do read your comments and take them at face value, in which case you could be seen to be insighting murder (in the legal sense, not your idea of what is morally murder).
 

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Got to say I am pro-life, abortion should only be used when there is a danger to the life of the mother, tests show the unborn child will not make it full turm or as a result of a rape etc. if you don't want to get pregnant then don't have sex, if you consider yourself mature to engage in sex, then you should be mature enough to cope with the outcome - loads of people want to adopt, what really is the issue with carrying another life for 9 months then handing it over to be raised by a loving family? Which is more damaging to the mother? The act of abortion or giving the baby up for adoption?

You can't be pro-choice if you throw a caveat into a woman's right to choose. Its complete arrogance as a man to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. You are Not pro-choice.
 

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Simple. They care about it until it's born. After the baby exits it's mother they could care less what happens to it.

Don't you love how they say they are doing the Christian thing in defending life but tend to do the un-Christian thing by being against assistance to the poor and needy? Love that fetus enough to see that it gets born but not enough to help provide food and shelter after it's here.

You Hit the nail on the head... Exactly the Ring Wings agenda.
 

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everyone has the right to choice. whether that choice be right or wrong in the eyes, views and minds of others. no one has the right to say no to woman having a termination. as they dont know the circumstance that lead them there. the anti abortion lobby use almost gorilla tactics. attacking clinics, trying to get names from a computer memory to embarrass woman. intimidation when most vulnerable. they can no longer make there point by voice so turn to the antics of bully boys.
 

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You can't be pro-choice if you throw a caveat into a woman's right to choose. Its complete arrogance as a man to tell a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. You are Not pro-choice.

Never said I was pro-choice I am pro-life, and as a man who helped father the child, who is willing to look after and bring up the child don't I get a say? Like I said if you don't want kids, then do something to make sure you don't have kids, people are very quick to chase after the father for money when the child is born, it's a double standard, my body, my child my choice, but if I decide to have it then you got to help pay it, double standards, and what gives anybody the right to end an innocent life? Like I said pro life not pro choice!
 

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Sounds like you've already made that decision for her.

No, if the woman wants an abortion, then it is her choice to have it - that's what the law in the UK says. All I would say is that we should be able to offer more support and help to woman in that situation, I have known 3 good friends of mine who have had abortions for one reason or another, and it has affected each one of them in a deeply profound way - it would be unfair of me to discuss their person situation on here - but my own experience tells me that you have to consider the longer lasting mental health and pyschocogical effects. Also I do have to point out what about the rights of the father? I also have a friend who devastated to find out that his long term girlfriend had had an abortion without even telling him, all he ever wanted was to be a dad with the girl he loved, he would have been happy to bring the child up, be part of the child's life, - where is his choice, his rights? It takes two to make a baby, why should it be the choice of just one to get rid of it?
 

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You say you're pro-life but what about the LIFE of the mother?

A mother who is an adult (or close to it), with a personality, consciousness, friends, family, etc.

You value that less than a clump of cells? Or an embryo that doesn't have any of the things the mother has?

Really, there are worse things than aborting a potential baby. It's not pleasant and in an ideal world a woman would only get pregnant by someone she loves, when she was of the right age and in a stable financial and mental position. But, this world is not ideal and abortion actually saves a lot of heartache, stress and other mental and financial issues for the mother. Which is the most important part of the equation.
 

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Got to say I am pro-life, abortion should only be used when there is a danger to the life of the mother, tests show the unborn child will not make it full turm or as a result of a rape etc. if you don't want to get pregnant then don't have sex, if you consider yourself mature to engage in sex, then you should be mature enough to cope with the outcome - loads of people want to adopt, what really is the issue with carrying another life for 9 months then handing it over to be raised by a loving family? Which is more damaging to the mother? The act of abortion or giving the baby up for adoption?
If you feel mothers should be obliged by law to carry babies to full term, are you willing to pay them the financial costs of being pregnant and for any consequent costs? (getting sacked, failing exams, for example. That could be a life-long cost.)

Never said I was pro-choice I am pro-life, and as a man who helped father the child, who is willing to look after and bring up the child don't I get a say?
oh. you mean you have a right to insist some woman who does not want to bears your children, provided you get her drunk and she just agrees to have sex with you?

people are very quick to chase after the father for money when the child is born, it's a double standard, my body, my child my choice, but if I decide to have it then you got to help pay it, double standards,
This is not a simple problem with a simple answer. At one extreme, a couple have children, live together for years and then get divorced. I'd say both parents have rights to have time with the children and both should be paying. But even if this case maybe one or other parent is a child murderer so shouldnt get acces.

At another extreme two drunk people at a club have sex and never see each other again. The woman has a child. Someone traces the father. I do not hold he should be liable for maintenance. It is true the mother has the harder problem in deciding what to do about the pregnancy, but that is the tough break which comes with being female. The tough break with being male is that you cannot have a child if you choose. The responsible thing for the mother to do is decided whether she will have the child, decide on morning after contraception, or abortion, or giving birth. Or keeping the child and facing the cost.

[/quote]and what gives anybody the right to end an innocent life? Like I said pro life not pro choice![/QUOTE]I dont know. Ask the president who sends soldiers off to fight for nothing. 'innocent' is a loaded term used by people who want to win an argument by moral blackmail.
 

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My feeling is that it is better to keep abortion legal rather than forcing couples to resort to illegal abortions.

My thoughts exactly.

Along with I feel no one the right to limit what a person can or cannot do with their body.
 

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I find it funny that most posts here are pro-choice, saying the mother has the right to choose...not a mention of the baby's rights.

But in the circumcision thread, the baby should have a choice?

And yes, it did call it a baby. To me its a living human thing at conception and has the same rights everybody has/should have. To those who say that it can't live outside the womb (so its not a "baby"), its true but neither can a newborn outside the womb live without another's care.

Just my opinion. This will never be decided, and there will be no compromise that will be acceptable to the two sides. Some believe life starts at conception and some don't (until it viable, born, etc), so pro-lifers and pro choice side will never agree.

I'm personally pro-life (but i'm male so i never will have to face this decision), but do not think abortion should be illegal. Government should stay out of these issues (gay marriage, abortion). The tricky part is this that some consider this murder, while others don't.

But I do think that the male partner should also have a say (yea, not if rape/incest so don't go there). If she does not want to keep it, but he absolutely does, he should be able to, provided he take full financial responsiblity of the pregnancy/birth/mother during this time. But that is really tricky and have no idea how that would all work.