What it means when a dude says he's 'mostly straight'

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    I know, I know, I know, I know, another one of "THOSE" threads .

    I'm not going to paste everything. I'm only posting this one to draw attention to the frequency in research of this topic, JUST within this past year.

    And of course, I can't help but highlight how all of this data reflects a lot of our viewers and posters here.


    Do any of you, regardless of your sexuality, feel this site is a microcosm for the future in terms of how society will view human sexuality?

    And even if you're 100% Gay or Straight, we can feel comfortable around people who have a genuine /mutual appreciation of the BIG PEEN without trying to hookup.

    Think about it, instead of relegating your expressions to "JUST" the likes and posts here, guys can feel comfortable about expressing a little chub when you see a dude, or him complimenting you about your appearance without feeling the social stigma.

    To the "DUDE ASS" guys, I'm being sorta' facetious /sorta' serious in asking you to imagine working out in the gym, what would be the harm in turning around and saying, AMAZING set!!! By the way, killer calves, and nice ass bro.

    Not to mention, if you're still in the gym or wherever and you see a fucking dick @Markym01, @Broadsword's or @GorillaHorse, No harm- No Foul, you can turn around, and without coming off like a perv, you can say, Whoa dude!! Is that your fucking dick?? Nice man. And keep walking and he's not perving out..


    Moreover, on a serious note, imagine an environment where that exact scenario happened, and you can feel comfortable with the exchange instead of feeling like you need a shower because another dude told you, you were hung like a horse and had the nicest dick he'd ever seen.

    I think @sangheili90 mentioned a similar scenario like this in a post about being checked out in the gym and you didn't freak out. You're like Hey, he's checking my junk out, and you move on.






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    What It Means When a Dude Says He's 'Mostly Straight'
    After interviewing dozens of men who proudly claim their left-of-homosexual identities, a researcher explains how they parse their desires.


    Dec 5 2017, 2:43pm
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    The men who populate Ritch C. Savin-Williams’s book Mostly Straight: Sexual Fluidity Among Men, released last month on Harvard University Press, are—honestly, truly—interested in women. They may lust for furtive, late-night sexual encounters with a “buddy” or find themselves intensely admiring a male porn star’s biceps, but this does not occlude their love for their wives and girlfriends, nor women in general.


    “Mostly straight,” as a male sexual identity, hasn’t entered the public’s consciousness the way gay or bi identities have, though that seems to be changing. According to one trend forecasting agency, only
    48 percent of Gen Z identifies as exclusively heterosexual, compared to 65 percent of millennials. And millennials, it bears mentioning, are no slouch when it comes to dismantling hard-line conceptions of sexuality; when an actor like Josh Hutcherson loudly declares himself to be “mostly straight” in the press, he goes a long way in dismantling stigma against sexual fluidity.

    Hutcherson’s phrasing, as it happens, inspired the title of Savin-Williams’s book, in which he interviewed 40 mostly straight men to better understand their relationship to same-sex sexuality and how they parse their desires. To the eternal consternation of men who identify as gay, mostly straights aren’t usually interested in long-term same-sex relationships, Savin-Williams writes, but they’re also refreshingly shame-free about their desires, with many not only comfortable with gay culture but even “enchanted” by it.

    Savin-Williams, who also works as the director of the Sex and Gender Lab at Cornell University, spoke with VICE about why gay men seem culturally obsessed with mostly straight guys, the need to embrace all the messy nuances of the Kinsey spectrum, and why you can’t assume every guy in the local gay choir is actually gay.
     
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    [​IMG]Josh Hutcherson !!
     
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    The amount of times guys have argued with me that there is only straight and gay. But I proved them wrong ;) but I love this research and Josh Hutcherson’s use of the term “mostly straight” is very refreshing.
     
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    Mostly straight? lol That really means he is bisexual but is probably afraid to admit it.
     
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    Or just is open to the possibility. However he wants to word it I don’t mind
     
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    Um...He doesn't swallow?
     
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    Dude, you're wrong for that!!!! but funny..
     
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    I'm not sure. Assuming you mean U.S. society:

    We'd never get past the selection bias and be able to claim external validity. Most of the guys on this site are probably gay--many more, by proportion, than exist in the general population. Further, people on LPSG probably have a much more Liberal view of sex and sexuality than the general population.
     
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    Lol I don't l know about that... I'll say more later.. But Meanwhile..

    This is what I'm talking about..

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    http://eyeseecandy.tumblr.com/tagged/dustin-mcneer
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    I have no idea who this Dustin Mcneer kid is. But GOOD Lord!!

    I'm sure even the most open minded straight guy who digs all the likes from the guys are like;


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    I never thought I'd see that day when you have an all assuming straight guy who dates women, would a let a Bro give them a handjob.


    Sounds like the stuff gay porn is made from.. Right!!??!

    I'm not sure the setting of this clip, stigmatize him if you want, but I only knew of this guy as my eye caught this action on a tumblr.


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    with the caption;


    Dustin Mcneer | Sometimes a Straight man needs a GAY hand.

    And thought about this thread immediately. The few google searches I've read have him banging chicks left and right.



    *****Now look, I'm NOT one of the mindset of "some" gay brethren who lives, breathes and wants every hot guy to be gay..

    I like thought provoking topics like where @bigbull29 & I can bond over the an amalgamation of this trend of sexual fluidity that freaks some people out..


    That said, Come on........... Man. talking about, 'mostly straight'.

    If you are so cool as a straight guy to let a Bro give you and handjob like,... like your picking up take out after work....I'm speechless...

    This shit is moving fast even for me>>




     
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    NOPE society as a whole...

    However, isn't this site an indicator of what the future holds in terms of breaking societal norms. In just having straight guys feel comfortable enough to receive a compliment about their package and not feel violated or offended.



    THAT's JUST IT!! The newer generation seem to have this concept of liquidating taboos so a person can feel comfortable to express thier individuality..

    Lol.. I'm not touching that one.. lol.

    But if this is a Big Dick Appreciation Society, they ( Big Dick Guys) have to play to their base, so to speak.


    No seriously.

    But VERY Strong points and good insight I find you have here.
    The article talks about sexuality.

    And with this site, Don't you find it can speak into a bigger picture as to how one views themselves, opposed to how society views them as a whole.

    The point I present is as guys in the "mostly straight realm feel comfortable in places like this, it can allow them to incrementally spread/influence their biases to their inner circles.

    And as much as I criticize social media, that's where I feel a lot of this is taking off like a rocket.

    If you read some of my comments on the accidental nudity thread, you can see how I'm still shocked I have walked in on guys doing naked selfies, very comfortable with their bodes/sexuality and the likes.


    I'm not saying this is a #me too movement, but there's something in the water..
     
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    It all depends where you put the comma

    But if this is a "Big, Dick Appreciation Society", they.......

    or

    But if this is a "Big Dick, Appreciation Society", they.......

    Two different societies.
     
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    LOL. Touché... Let's go with Large Penis Support Groups like I meant to say.
     
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    Every one is looking at porn online anyways. That's the real driver here, isn't it?

    Straight men can watch solo jackoffs, hardcore gay porn, trans porn, or whatever....and still nobody knows. They can experiment in cyberspace. Again, no one knows. This is helping to slowly "liberalize" ideas around male homosexuality in the porn world. It's why you're seeing a slight more acceptance in sexuality fluidity with regard to male sexuality, especially with millennial boys where gay porn was right there in there face from the very day they started viewing porn online.

    Lesbian sex, on the other hand, has been in mainstream porn since its beginnings in mid 70's, more or less. It may have started out a little taboo, but nothing compared to male homosexuality.

    I have a lot of straight fans, many of whom I do not consider "gay" at all. Some may be bisexual, but some are just that: straight men with big cock fascinations. There is nothing more to it.o_O

    Such an interesting topic.
     
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    https://www.lpsg.com/threads/whats-his-name-again.489414/#post-6860284

    This is from an expert of mine inquiring about that kid Tim K aka Anthony Markley


    Barrowing from the above, I should’ve taken my own social cue.


    I’ve known/know a LOT of guys who are these gym rats, I call them, that are very open minded/ gay friendly that seems to be a part of this “social media” phenomenon/trend that have these guys, I “ASSUME” assume to be straight, who like to show the goods to the audience that appreciates it, the gays.


    Although I had started a topic on Tim K previously, I brought him up again because he strongly resembles this kid I know who fits that above description.


    As fate would have it, we both have a mutual acquaintance who closer to me. He’s an “EVOLVED” /GenXer/ straight guy.


    Recently while just us 3 were all in a room, the GenXer puts the kid on blast sort of, saying he saw some profile of him “and his dick”, with a respectable gay following.


    Me and the GenXer both marveled and had a good discussion how inconceivable that would have been 10 years ago.


    Funny how time changes things.
     
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    Like you @bigbull29, I continue to be intrigued by this evolvement.

    Another influential factor, that sparked an epiphany as to why this intrigues me so much, is the era in which I entered the military. The onset of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.


    Somebody pointed out what naïve ass sorta’ missed since the gay acceptance thing happened so rapidly.


    I swear, it didn’t dawn on me until this peer pointed out we’ve had a complete generation who’ve “NEVER HAD TO HIDE THEIR SEXUALITY”. In terms of the military especially.


    + They didn’t have the social stigma of HIV/AIDS, and its impact of acknowledging your sexual preference.



    With that in my head, people outside our mainly military circle who are still stuck like me, may be astonished to what I am privy to hear. So lately when I “over hear” or read some guys just chalking up a blow job from a dude as just an “event” something that happened, I’m fascinated even more so.


    A “LOT” of my postings stem from my interactions with these guys and their perceptions that are different than mine.
     
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    I’ve recently had a few interactions with straight guys that were similar.


    Whatever interaction they had with a gay dude, be it, innocent flirtation over profile pics, oral sex, etc, it’s astounding how these cats, to their credit, won’t let anyone else define them.


    And sure enough, they will tell you they’re not gay. (Refer to the article).


    I can call them sexually confused till the cows come home. Now If I’m allowed in their inner circle of trust, it’s with that understanding.


    What threw me was I considered myself to be somewhat enlightened, open minded, until I got challenged, that I don’t get to define what someone feels they are.

    Now "I" feel like Archie Bunker.



    Even if I’m not straight. And now I see it play out here in different forums in media coverage.

    And some of my Joes I’ve known for a bit, have a certain rapport with them. AND, and,and,and,and. I was about to go there AGAIN, pointing out some sexual stuff I now they’d done with guys as a background.


    But, as I catch myself, I’m reminded, I’ve been put on notice by them saying, “Dude, what do I have to do to get it through to you, I’m straight… “Mostly” “. Or they may say, “For the most part, I’m straight.”


    Because they I know, I know.. VERY FASCINATING.




     
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    Well it is only fairly recently that people started to adopt a "sexual identity" based on who they have sex with. This whole notion of people identifying as gay straight or bisexual is a fairly recent (mid 20th century) construct and one that to me doesn't make much sense.
     
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    it's pretty much normal. if a guy likes pussy, but likes to fuck guys or get fucked by guys, and enjoys it, how the f is he 100% straight?
     
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    Point well argued. And when you look at it in that perspective, and someone pointed out, we’re looking though LPSG glasses.


    Mind you, I’m influenced by the young cats in my inner circle fitting this depiction of how I see things.

    I see the evolvement, yet, it’s also wise to keep the perspective.
     
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