What Other Group Has To Put Up With This?

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For a brief shining moment I thought you were going to tell us about something that happened to you. What other people do is not your problem, not your business, not yours to judge. In matters of relationships, people will keep secrets from their best friend, so one cannot expect to fully understand everything based on what is witnessed, even directly.

But you asked and I'll answer: "YT" was absolutely right for declining his advances. Why? Because he was a loud-mouthed jerk. The women who you so often state will mock, joke, and insinuate about penis size are loud mouthed jerks. You're apparently in LA, and shallow people seem to be drawn there like flies to a turd. Perhaps you should change location to somewhere not so inundated with the self-absorbed. What you're describing is NOT normal behavior.

^This. I was going to mention this as well, but opted for...um...a different route. I wouldn't date that guy either. He sounds utterly obnoxious. "Hey, I NORMALLY like THESE kind of women, but I've made an exception for you, sweet cheeks" is not exactly wooing territory. And to not take the first "no" as an answer is more than a bit of a red flag. The limited amount I know about that guy gives me the heebie-jeebies, and I'd hazard to guess she feels the same way. But, the brilliance of it all is that that woman owes no explanation nor any apology for not accepting his invitations. (Also, I failed to see how the yarn relates.)
 
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You know what? I'm so fucking done with this. I have offered support. I have offered words of encouragement. I have offered earnest compliments. I have offered methods in which you can feel better about yourselves. I have condemned skits. I have historically stood up to people who would bully you. I even wrote a character with a smaller dick into my fucking erotica to show that the measure of a man's dick is not the measure of his worth. I have asked how I can assist even more, and I've asked what you're doing to help yourselves. And the answer to that is nothing. Absofuckinglutely nothing.

None of you have medically small dicks, and there's nothing wrong with any of your dicks. But you don't want to hear that because it'll rattle you from your complacency. You don't want anything to change because misery loves company and that's all you know. God forbid you don't have a "reason" to pin your failures on. God forbid a woman turn you down for any other reason than your dicks. It's your "Get out of jail free card" to write off anything negative that happens to you. Didn't score a date? Well I have a little dick. Passed over for promotion? Well, I don't have confidence due to my little dick. Dog died? Well, he probably couldn't stand being around me and my little dick. YOU are the only ones putting so much weight and value on your dicks. Not us. Not anybody here. YOU are the ones holding yourselves back because you'd rather wallow in your cage of self-oppression rather than admit there's nothing wrong with you. What would you do without misery to cling to? What happens if you're no longer put-upon men with an issue?

If any of you are looking for your bullies, go stand in front of a mirror. Nobody here has said an unkind thing about your dicks, except you three. You are your own worst enemies. Which, we all can be at times, but most people grow out of it. At a certain point, when you just wallow and wallow and wallow, people will stop feeling sorry for you - which I'm sure will be taken to mean they don't like your dicks.

I'm sick of the intentional obfuscation. I'm sick of this Eeyore-esque, "woe is me" mentality. I'm sick of my words being twisted. I'm sick of my points being diminished by willful ignorance. I'm sick of my posts being dismantled to suit your needs. I'm sick of pedantry and the purposeful misunderstandings just so you all can keep your safety blanket of misery firmly wrapped around your bodies. I will say it: by seeing and hearing about your dicks, none of you have any right to be acting this way. I was trying to put it more delicately before, but the gloves are off. Your cocks are fucking fine; it's your attitudes about them that isn't fine. And sorry, Harry, but your personality is the ONLY thing that I know about you that would keep me from sleeping with you. Not your body, not your cock, but the WAY you talk about yourself and how you hold your own self-esteem in such low regard. You might not think you project that, but I guarantee you do.

In fact, I would guarantee that any of y'all's sexual misfortunes have FAR more to do with how you comport yourselves with a lover, than about your dick size. I know tiny men, men FAR smaller than any of you, in happy marriages. I know guys with huge dicks that couldn't get a date to save their lives. It's in your heads that you're failures because you don't even wanna try. You don't wanna rally against society, you don't wanna educate anyone, you refuse to speak to anyone professionally. You all refuse to actively make your lives better and easier, so I don't know why you think any of the rest of us should care? You've all been hanging off a cliff this whole time, and my hand's been out, but you refuse to fucking grab it. Why do you think anything will ever change if you refuse to pick yourselves up, dust yourselves off, and DO THE WORK? Why should your allies like me care to help, and why should anyone else who isn't an ally give a shit? You don't even give a shit about yourselves.

So you know what? Wallow, then. Sink yourselves into the mire of your own self-imposed oppression, bathe in your self-inflicted mindset. None of you can take a compliment, none of you will accept help. None of you will work to make things easier on yourselves, and I am TIRED of living in this world with you. Your mindsets are fucking exhausting. I've wasted too much time here to see no results - or, somehow, less than no results. Hold yourselves down for all I care; I have better things to do than listen to a bunch of pissing and moaning.

And believe me, your kindness is greatly appreciated. But unfortunately, thats all it is, just kindness and trying to be nice. And although appreciated and well intended, does nothing to fix the problem.

Just because it is not “medically small” does not mean we do not live feel and experience the effects and repercussions of it. And it is not complacency, being turned down for other reasons is not as big of an issue. In other areas, I am not complaining. I can get jobs promotions etc, so what? Thats neither here nor there.

If they are si fine, why would you not want to small yourself then? Obviously because you know it is not a good place to be and you know its better to be big. And no, it is not my attitude. Read my reply to alterego, Would you like me to send it to you? If it were my attitude, that would not happen. And you do not know my real attitude and personality outside of here.
 

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And believe me, your kindness is greatly appreciated. But unfortunately, thats all it is, just kindness and trying to be nice. And although appreciated and well intended, does nothing to fix the problem.

Just because it is not “medically small” does not mean we do not live feel and experience the effects and repercussions of it. And it is not complacency, being turned down for other reasons is not as big of an issue. In other areas, I am not complaining. I can get jobs promotions etc, so what? Thats neither here nor there.

If they are si fine, why would you not want to small yourself then? Obviously because you know it is not a good place to be and you know its better to be big. And no, it is not my attitude. Read my reply to alterego, Would you like me to send it to you? If it were my attitude, that would not happen. And you do not know my real attitude and personality outside of here.

Again, you say I'm just "trying to be nice". Come on, man, gimme a little more credit than that, will ya? It's almost insulting how you treat your allies. And also again, you twist my words when it comes to wishing I had something else. I don't wish to be a lot of things because PEOPLE WHO LOVE AND ACCEPT THEMSELVES FOR WHO THEY ARE DON'T SIT AROUND WISHING FOR SOMETHING ELSE. You should try it.
 
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For a brief shining moment I thought you were going to tell us about something that happened to you. What other people do is not your problem, not your business, not yours to judge. In matters of relationships, people will keep secrets from their best friend, so one cannot expect to fully understand everything based on what is witnessed, even directly.

It illustrates a scenario. And basically you are agreeing with me.

But you asked and I'll answer: "YT" was absolutely right for declining his advances. Why? Because he was a loud-mouthed jerk. The women who you so often state will mock, joke, and insinuate about penis size are loud mouthed jerks. You're apparently in LA, and shallow people seem to be drawn there like flies to a turd. Perhaps you should change location to somewhere not so inundated with the self-absorbed. What you're describing is NOT normal behavior.

What makes you say he was a loud mouthed jerk. He is asked a question regarding preferences he answers politely and directly. And this happens everywhere i go nut just LA, believe me.

OR....

Perhaps these women are using the "you'd better have a huge dick if you want to get with me" line as a deterrent. Not all people are direct and truthful when it comes to relationships...again...people will hide their insecurities, hide their true desires, hide their fetishes, hide anything they think will hurt them. You hide by not ever trying, so you know this is true. At any rate, women get hit on constantly. Making a huge dick...which is very much a rarity...a criteria is one way of saying, "don't hit on me".

Exactly, until that big dick does come along. Because now she has weeded and filtered all the other guys out to get what she desires.

You have nothing to lose by dating. Every experience gets you closer to, not further from, the right person for you. All it takes is some guts.
 

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And believe me, your kindness is greatly appreciated. But unfortunately, thats all it is, just kindness and trying to be nice. And although appreciated and well intended, does nothing to fix the problem.

Just because it is not “medically small” does not mean we do not live feel and experience the effects and repercussions of it. And it is not complacency, being turned down for other reasons is not as big of an issue. In other areas, I am not complaining. I can get jobs promotions etc, so what? Thats neither here nor there.

If they are si fine, why would you not want to small yourself then? Obviously because you know it is not a good place to be and you know its better to be big. And no, it is not my attitude. Read my reply to alterego, Would you like me to send it to you? If it were my attitude, that would not happen. And you do not know my real attitude and personality outside of here.

That's all it is?

You're fucking rude and don't appreciate a fucking thing.
 

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There are a lot of nice people here. We've tried to encourage. Tried to convince. Tried tough love.

We are all wasting our time.

Fuck wally

Fuck lloyd

Fuck harry

They are trolling, or miserable, or manipulative. It doesn't matter. They are convinced they are never going to be happy, and about this they are 100% correct. And they get what's coming to them.
 

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How am I rude by being appreciative? Do u know how to read?

You AREN'T appreciative if all you got out of the dozens of posts in this thread trying to give insight and perspective is that is was an attempt to be "nice".

It was a lot fucking more than that, and you dismissed it. Fucking. Rude.
 
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You AREN'T appreciative if all you got out of the dozens of posts in this thread trying to give insight and perspective is that is was an attempt to be "nice".

It was a lot fucking more than that, and you dismissed it. Fucking. Rude.

No I appreciate it and acknowledge it however all I am stating is that how ever well the intentions may be it does not change anything or fix the root of the problem if you are on able to understand that it’s on you
 

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No I appreciate it and acknowledge it however all I am stating is that how ever well the intentions may be it does not change anything or fix the root of the problem if you are on able to understand that it’s on you

Fuck off Harry.

Rude as fuck, I swear...
 

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There are a lot of nice people here. We've tried to encourage. Tried to convince. Tried tough love.

We are all wasting our time.

Fuck wally

Fuck lloyd

Fuck harry

They are trolling, or miserable, or manipulative. It doesn't matter. They are convinced they are never going to be happy, and about this they are 100% correct. And they get what's coming to them.

You are totally right. We are waisting our time. Wether they are purposely trolling, delusional or stuck in a self-created believe system; they will not take advice, answer questions or give real life examples.

I’m done with this thread. I have better things to do with my time. I am going to have my actors wear leotards tomorrow so I can recast the whole show based on their size and make sure any Smalls are fired. Then I will send them over to Wally, Lloyd and Harry so they can start a new production company called The Very Small Theatre Company. They will performs shows like Pissing Into the Woods, Jesus Christ Supersmall, Small Side Story and of course Les Miserables.
 
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You know what? I'm so fucking done with this. I have offered support. I have offered words of encouragement. I have offered earnest compliments. I have offered methods in which you can feel better about yourselves. I have condemned skits. I have historically stood up to people who would bully you. I even wrote a character with a smaller dick into my fucking erotica to show that the measure of a man's dick is not the measure of his worth. I have asked how I can assist even more, and I've asked what you're doing to help yourselves. And the answer to that is nothing. Absofuckinglutely nothing.

Why are we even here, then? Just to listen to you three mope about yourselves? What's the point in dredging up a 6 year old SNL skit if none of you can be bothered to step up for yourselves? Are we just listening to you complain for the sake of complaining? #howfun

None of you have medically small dicks, and there's nothing wrong with any of your dicks. But you don't want to hear that because it'll rattle you from your complacency. You don't want anything to change because misery loves company and that's all you know. God forbid you don't have a "reason" to pin your failures on. God forbid a woman turn you down for any other reason than your dicks. It's your "Get out of jail free card" to write off anything negative that happens to you. Didn't score a date? Well I have a little dick. Passed over for promotion? Well, I don't have confidence due to my little dick. Dog died? Well, he probably couldn't stand being around me and my little dick. YOU are the only ones putting so much weight and value on your dicks. Not us. Not anybody here. YOU are the ones holding yourselves back because you'd rather wallow in your cage of self-oppression rather than admit there's nothing wrong with you. What would you do without misery to cling to? What happens if you're no longer put-upon men with an issue?

If any of you are looking for your bullies, go stand in front of a mirror. Nobody here has said an unkind thing about your dicks, except you three. You are your own worst enemies. Which, we all can be at times, but most people grow out of it. At a certain point, when you just wallow and wallow and wallow, people will stop feeling sorry for you - which I'm sure will be taken to mean they don't like your dicks.

I'm sick of the intentional obfuscation. I'm sick of this Eeyore-esque, "woe is me" mentality. I'm sick of my words being twisted. I'm sick of my points being diminished by willful ignorance. I'm sick of my posts being dismantled to suit your needs. I'm sick of pedantry and the purposeful misunderstandings just so you all can keep your safety blanket of misery firmly wrapped around your bodies. I will say it: by seeing and hearing about your dicks, none of you have any right to be acting this way. I was trying to put it more delicately before, but the gloves are off. Your cocks are fucking fine; it's your attitudes about them that isn't fine. And sorry, Harry, but your personality is the ONLY thing that I know about you that would keep me from sleeping with you. Not your body, not your cock, but the WAY you talk about yourself and how you hold your own self-esteem in such low regard. You might not think you project that, but I guarantee you do.

In fact, I would guarantee that any of y'all's sexual misfortunes have FAR more to do with how you comport yourselves with a lover, than about your dick size. I know tiny men, men FAR smaller than any of you, in happy marriages. I know guys with huge dicks that couldn't get a date to save their lives. It's in your heads that you're failures because you don't even wanna try. You don't wanna rally against society, you don't wanna educate anyone, you refuse to speak to anyone professionally. You all refuse to actively make your lives better and easier, so I don't know why you think any of the rest of us should care? You've all been hanging off a cliff this whole time, and my hand's been out, but you refuse to fucking grab it. Why do you think anything will ever change if you refuse to pick yourselves up, dust yourselves off, and DO THE WORK? Why should your allies like me care to help, and why should anyone else who isn't an ally give a shit? You don't even give a shit about yourselves.

So you know what? Wallow, then. Sink yourselves into the mire of your own self-imposed oppression, bathe in your self-inflicted mindset. None of you can take a compliment, none of you will accept help. None of you will work to make things easier on yourselves, and I am TIRED of living in this world with you. Your mindsets are fucking exhausting. I've wasted too much time here to see no results - or, somehow, less than no results. Hold yourselves down for all I care; I have better things to do than listen to a bunch of pissing and moaning.

>>>>You don't wanna rally against society, you don't wanna educate anyone, you refuse to speak to anyone professionally. You all refuse to actively make your lives better and easier, so I don't know why you think any of the rest of us should care? >>>>>

Why add these libelous remarks that, at best, apply only to some participating in the thread?

None of them apply to me. My whole participation in the thread is about rallying against society and educating (very resistant) people, though possibly not in accord with your prescriptions. I have seen a psychologist with whom these topics and others were pounded over for months. I have taken many steps to make my life better and easier. Though not what I would call successful sexually, I did not hide and mope and refuse to get any experience based on presuppositions.

There is a strange need for people to deny the problems of men above micro, but substantially below true average (flaccid & erect) and resort to shaming. Very strange, especially in a person such as you (Brian S) who is not as hostile as some others in the thread. There is a compulsion to blame the victim instead of recognizing the damage being done to even men with above average dicks by the phallocracy. The final blow, of course, is to claim that it is those such as myself, attempting to analyze the situation, who are responsible for disparaging the small, not society at large which systematically victimizes the small with "jokes" and worse.

Actually though, this reaction is no surprise. I have seen it many times in the various small penis support groups. I'll have to read some of your fiction. Maybe there are hints there.
 
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You are totally right. We are waisting our time. Wether they are purposely trolling, delusional or stuck in a self-created believe system; they will not take advice, answer questions or give real life examples.

I’m done with this thread. I have better things to do with my time. I am going to have my actors wear leotards tomorrow so I can recast the whole show based on their size and make sure any Smalls are fired. Then I will send them over to Wally, Lloyd and Harry so they can start a new production company called The Very Small Theatre Company. They will performs shows like Pissing Into the Woods, Jesus Christ Supersmall, Small Side Story and of course Les Miserables.

I went over this in detail with you, but you continue to mis-characterize, apparently, purposely.
 
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You know, the only people here bashing men with smaller penises is, ironically, the men who consider their penises to be small.

#suckonthatirony #ownworstenemy

Yeah, it was Brian S that finally resorted to the ultimate.

The final blow, of course, is to claim that it is those such as myself, attempting to analyze the situation, who are responsible for disparaging the small, not society at large which systematically victimizes the small with "jokes" and worse.