What the fuck is up with Calebshung?

[Altairion]

Ok, first off I'd like to address Jacinto's point. Caleb, if he really is 15, should be handled by Mark personally for going into the gallery. Of course that is totally separate from the initial point of this thread.

Jana: Calm down because Dee has a point. First off, you've suffered through what? A whole 2 pms and then blocked him? I understand your system, and hell, I even think twice before I would send you a pm personally, but it doesn't sound like you should have undergone serious emotional stress from those. Secondly, if he's been flirty with you on the boards......you should read more of the posts on here. Over half of the posting LPSG population flirts with you The kid may not have understood that you would have preferred if he had gotten to know you better and been more mature about it first though.

Jon: Yes, Chris went through a phase where he was down on himself, and really could not control his emotions. However he seemed much more stable after that up to the point he left. Just be happy you've never had emotional imbalances to deal with.

Phoenix: Learn to care for others instead of basking in the adoration of those who tend to be flattering you with attention at an individual moment in time. Being a bigger person isn't just having the power to talk to down others. It is when you know how to do it, but have the restraint not to.

Ineligible: You get a star sticker for actually thinking of both sides of the situation first.

Dee: You made some great points. There isn't exactly tangible evidence that Caleb is Chris by any means. Just a few similarities. To me, an excited 15 year old that has just found a site like this that gives them emotional release where they can be open and accepted for their sexuality....would be more likely overdo things a bit.


Now before I get flamed; I need to point some things out.

1) Yes, I still consider Chris a friend of mine. We don't talk a lot, maybe a couple times a week, but we keep in touch.

2) I have not seen all of Caleb's posts, and by the sound of it...there are more than enough of them whether they are useful to the board or not.

3) Most of this conversation about goths.....useless to apply towards this thread. Really, can we not even make it past 15 posts before we get off topic?

4) Nothing we can do will really dictate what happens with Caleb until Mark steps in anyway.

 

[surferboy]

Phoenix: Learn to care for others instead of basking in the adoration of those who tend to be flattering you with attention at an individual moment in time. Being a bigger person isn't just having the power to talk to down others. It is when you know how to do it, but have the restraint not to.

I do care for others. Like, a lot more than I prolly should. But like, if yer gonna go around stalking me, and then start to emulate me, claiming you know shit about shit you know nothing of, especially if said thing happens to be something I'm passionate about, then yes, you will be like, on my bad list. I am an easy going, laid back, free spirited person. However, I do have Irish in me, so if ya get on my bad side, you'll know it fershure.

 

[prepstudinsc]

Originally posted by Altairion@Jul 24 2005, 01:31 PM
Ok, first off I'd like to address Jacinto's point. Caleb, if he really is 15, should be handled by Mark personally for going into the gallery. Of course that is totally separate from the initial point of this thread.

Jana: Calm down because Dee has a point. First off, you've suffered through what? A whole 2 pms and then blocked him? I understand your system, and hell, I even think twice before I would send you a pm personally, but it doesn't sound like you should have undergone serious emotional stress from those. Secondly, if he's been flirty with you on the boards......you should read more of the posts on here. Over half of the posting LPSG population flirts with you The kid may not have understood that you would have preferred if he had gotten to know you better and been more mature about it first though.

Jon: Yes, Chris went through a phase where he was down on himself, and really could not control his emotions. However he seemed much more stable after that up to the point he left. Just be happy you've never had emotional imbalances to deal with.

Phoenix: Learn to care for others instead of basking in the adoration of those who tend to be flattering you with attention at an individual moment in time. Being a bigger person isn't just having the power to talk to down others. It is when you know how to do it, but have the restraint not to.

Ineligible: You get a star sticker for actually thinking of both sides of the situation first.

Dee: You made some great points. There isn't exactly tangible evidence that Caleb is Chris by any means. Just a few similarities. To me, an excited 15 year old that has just found a site like this that gives them emotional release where they can be open and accepted for their sexuality....would be more likely overdo things a bit.


Now before I get flamed; I need to point some things out.

1) Yes, I still consider Chris a friend of mine. We don't talk a lot, maybe a couple times a week, but we keep in touch.

2) I have not seen all of Caleb's posts, and by the sound of it...there are more than enough of them whether they are useful to the board or not.

3) Most of this conversation about goths.....useless to apply towards this thread. Really, can we not even make it past 15 posts before we get off topic?

4) Nothing we can do will really dictate what happens with Caleb until Mark steps in anyway.

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I hate posts that quote the WHOLE post, but I'm going to do it in this case. Brian made too many good points here. I've talked with Chris a bunch of times off the board on Yahoo and while he's got some problems to work through, I think that he's heading in the right direction. I don't think that Caleb is Chris because he certainly wouldn't have posted that many inane posts and also Chris wasn't one to post with as much slang and teenage grammar like Caleb does.

Caleb is a teenager, he obviously needs meds--he's made a post about it somewhere on here--but let's not be so quick to condemn him because he made a couple of PMs. Going into the gallery is a whole different matter and that needs to be addressed by Mark and ONLY Mark. If someone sneds harassing PMs, report that person to Mark and let him as the board owner take care of it. We have the option of blocking the person. I've had some stupid PMs from people and if I don't like them, I can block them and I delete the messages. No biggie. (no pun intended)

 

[madame_zora]

I never suggested DOING anything about him, I was making known my feelings on the matter. Brian, I am glad you are still friends with Chris, obviously my experience with him was quite different. If you think that someone threatening to kill themselves if YOU don't pay attention to them isn't stressful, You're a better person than I. I made abundantly clear to him that I would drop him like a dead rat if he 1) talked to me about suicide, mentioned the word, or tries to use me as a suicide prevention counsellor. I am not qualified and I suggested he seek professional help (he refused). or 2) flirted or attempted to "cyber" with me, I don't know him and he's 15- waaaaay to young not to gross me out. He did both of those things several times, so I dropped him like a dead rat, there was no surprise there.

Now brian, you say you haven't read Caleb's posts but you're pretty quick to condemn me for "not having to put up with too much inconvenience". What you haven't seen is that he systematically killed a lot of threads that were somewhat interesting (which I can correct, but it's a lot of work to correct so many) AND addressed me directly in a gross and creepy way. Now, when it's YOU being addressed, I'd assume YOU had a right to feel however YOU feel about it. Since it was ME (as it so often is) I have a right to feel creeped out, whether it's Chris or not, don't you think? I didn't go into vivd details as to why I think it could be him, but I do have a strong suspicion that it is. I could easily be wrong, but once again I am the noobs first person to pester, first person to dry hump on the board before they even bother to get to know me. I've removed my pics fopr the gallery and my personal photo, I guess you think it's okay for me to be constantly used for every fucking noobs sexual outlet though right? I was really hurt that you considered my feelings so little, don't I spend the vast majority of my time here offering support to the posters here? If I am bugged once in a great while, would it ever occur to you that one out of 100 people here might have actually done something to piss me off?

You think I should be nice about a 15 year old flirting with me, all I can say is you have a right to your own opinion, but it is definitely NOT one I share or am influenced by.

 

[B_DoubleMeatWhopper]

Just a 'by-the-way' here: comparing the syntax in Chris's post to that in Caleb's posts, they are two different people. If they are the same person, then Chris has a real knack for the ability to disguise his language habits, and I doubt that it's in him to be able to pass a linguistic analysis. My 'professional' opinion is that they're two separate disturbed fifteen year-olds.

 

[jonb]

I've had more than enough drama in my life, but I wasn't a faggy non-kon for the sake of being non-kon. (No offense to the fags here who are non-kon as a means of expressing themselves.) I mean, no one cuts just because their long-distance relationship with a guy they met online didn't work out.

 

[Knight]

Originally posted by godiluvabig1@Jul 24 2005, 03:35 PM
I was wondering the same thing... I found it quite disturbing that he put messages in my gallery.  Especially since I've been thinking about putting photos that 15 yr olds shouldn't see... How he got a gold membership is beyond me.  I tried to give one of his topics a boost last night, but that was before I saw how many he began for practically no obvious reason.  If anyone's wondering, that's why I haven't put any really naughty pictures in my gallery--I don't want the wrong person to see them.

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Put the pictures up please

I won't tell if you won't

And caleb's topics did just seem like a waste of space...used only to raise his post count...why would anyone do that? ...

And yeah, don't get me started on these goth people...'I'm not a fan of relationships. They can never work. Someone always gets hurt'. And my favourite 'I'm tired. Of EVERYTHING.'

I've never got like that, and I won't because there is no point...but I know people that do and they really get on my nerves...

 

[SomeGuyOverThere]

Shit people, this is a Support forum.

Well, perhaps was a support forum.

All it seems to be of late is the forum aristocracy raining shit from upon high on the plebs of this forum. It doesnt seem that a days go past without this place becoming more and more xenophobic, more and more inward looking, and more and more critical.

We do have an ignore function on this bored for good reason, and so, use it! There isnt anything to be gained by bullshitting like this, and activing in a mean spirited way.

 

[Steve26]

Fantastic post, Altairion. I have nothing more to say.

Steve

 

[godiluvabig1]

I, for one, wasn't whining. And I'm sure Zora wasn't either...

I was stating how much it disturbed me that a person underage was looking at my gallery when I've been thinking about putting up pics that, while I'm sure underaged people would enjoy as much as the next person, would not be appropriate for an underage person to see.

And I see Zora's point, because I've been getting messages through yahoo from guys who are only interested in trying to meet me in person and get laid. I've been tempted myself to add a very cruel sig that tells newbies to pretty much back the fuck off. But I haven't yet because most people I do talk to from here make interesting conversation. It's the few that ruin it for the rest. I've gotten to the point to where I log onto yahoo messenger as invisible and talk to only a few people on my list, because I don't like to be mean and block their messages, but I will if it gets to that point. I just ignore them in a somewhat polite way, I guess, by making them think I'm rarely online...

 

[D_Martin van Burden]

Originally posted by madame_zora@Jul 24 2005, 04:55 AM
Sorry Dee, but just because you do shoddy detective work doesn't mean everyone else uses your standards.

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It's one thing to acknowledge that someone's talk of suicide and other manic behaviors make you openly uncomfortable, Jana. That's a pretty common feeling; never mind one could admire your honesty in admitting that.

As the "resident psychologist," suicide makes me uncomfortable too. Thankfully, I haven't had to deal with a serious crisis case as of this posting, but I'm ready and hopefully trained to do so.

And for the record, if you feel uncomfortable when guys want to suckle on your breasts, then so be it. Some of these other accusations are out of line, though.

I could posit that dry humping or fleshpiling or whatever kills a bunch of threads on here too, but that would be heavy-handed of me. I can only speak for me. Fleshpiling kills my interest in those threads. In any sense, plenty of people have that "power" and yet no one is personally indicted for doing so. And I don't really know what else to tell you than to use the Ignore feature more often for unsolicited PMs. That's the most proactive way to do it, since creating whole new threads lamblasting those particular members may or may not be as effective. And let Mark do what you can't.

It sounds like a lot of reaction to me.

I'll add this food for thought, though. When I read this thread, I had to fold my arms across my chest and call you and some of the other members hypocritical. I essentially did the same thing to Jacinto -- make a public accusation, called him out, and stood by my facts -- and all of a sudden it was this disasterous to-do. And you, like a few others on here, talked about invasive and distressing and saddening it was to see someone put before the witches' stake. Never mind that you all had done the exact same thing to Chris or Caleb or whomever at a moment's notice -- and somehow it's acceptable or okay? I don't get it. I really don't.

If Caleb's goal was to create a ripple with his premiere, then he succeeded with flying colors. But I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt, because I think that he's just a kid who needs information and wants attention just as much as the rest of us. Someone cares about him. Someone should think about his feelings instead of taking the easy way out -- talking shit about him.

So, I'll be the first.

Caleb, you post too damn much and you should do more than some one-liners. But I'm going to welcome you to the LPSG. God knows we got enough crazy people around here and you'll fit in fine, I think.

 

[godiluvabig1]

LMAO
Dee, I like your bluntness to Caleb... lol...

But seriously though...

No... I was gonna post a message for caleb, but I'll send it to him via personal message...

 

[Ineligible]

I have been saddened by a lot of this thread. A young man arrives, likes what he sees, posts a lot of posts where he thinks he has something to say, keeps his posts brief and to the point, and look what happens.

 

[dcwrestlefan]

Originally posted by jonb@Jul 24 2005, 08:20 PM
I've had more than enough drama in my life, but I wasn't a faggy non-kon for the sake of being non-kon. (No offense to the fags here who are non-kon as a means of expressing themselves.) I mean, no one cuts just because their long-distance relationship with a guy they met online didn't work out.

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scuse my ignernce, but what is a "non-kon"?

 

[Pappy]

I may be way off base but I think it's non-conformist.

 

[surferboy]

Originally posted by DoubleMeatWhopper@Jul 24 2005, 04:13 PM
Just a 'by-the-way' here: comparing the syntax in Chris's post to that in Caleb's posts, they are two different people. If they are the same person, then Chris has a real knack for the ability to disguise his language habits, and I doubt that it's in him to be able to pass a linguistic analysis. My 'professional' opinion is that they're two separate disturbed fifteen year-olds.

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He shure did a good job of mimicing the way I type and talk...

 

[tillyrox]

Hey Guys

I dont know who this chris guy is, and quite frankly i dont really care who this caleb guy is. Everytime i come online there are like another hundred topics started by caleb or he has shared his two bobs worth in all the others, like, i wouldnt mind if he actually said something that was relevent or interesting, but making one word or very short statements. So yeah thats my two bobs worth, and i really do deffinatly agree that he shouldnt be allowed access to the gallery, really for a 15 year old half the topics he is posting in he shouldnt really be posting in, i mean im not american, but isnt there a law about underage people on these kinds of sites, i dont know tho cos as i said im not amercan, might be different over there but here is aussie i know it wouldnt be allowed.

Anyway Luv ya All
Tilly

 

[madame_zora]

Um, you didn't know how to leave me alone? As for this last post, I rest my case.

 

[tillyrox]

Guys
Look i think we need to just stop this thread now before it gets out of hand, ive talked to caleb and he seems a nice enuff little guy, i mean, he is just a really entusiastic poster who posts in everything, i really dont think he is this chris guy whoever he is, i dont think he should be in the galleries or on some threads because he is only 15 but he does have a right to post on this site, and i think we need to just end this thread, um mr dude who runs the site, because just give him a break.

Tilly

 

[madame_zora]

This will be my last post here, I promise!

I have no idea if he's Chris or not, I really don't care. I'm sick to fucking death of being considered jack off material for minors, period. Anyone who can't understand how I feel can run outside and play "hide and go fuck yourself". I'm sick of the drama they bring and the complete lack of content of these 100+ posts of his. We have plenty of minor age members who contribute credibly and I'm not advocating getting rid of them. I do feel it's my right to admonish the ones who address ME with repulsive remarks.

Dee, honey, the reason you're confused as to why my rebukes differ from your is simple- you want to see it that way. In all the time I've been a member of this board, reading nearly every thread, I've never once seen you apologise for anything. I have said many times "I never thought of it like that, thanks for helping me understand" or "I'm sorry my remarks offended you, let me readjust what I was trying to say" or even "I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that like that". I find this to be a simple act of maturity when warranted. Your attack was against a person who hadn't addressed you at all, and the only reason you presented for your unprovoked attack and private investigation about was that you two have a "tiff" two years ago! Are you fucking serious? This coming from an acting psychologist was disturbing. You then went on to post that you were proud of your behavior and would do it exactly the same way again. Dee, I can only say that I found it disgusting and I can assure you that your opinions in general are far more suspect to me now than they were in the past. I don't completely disregard anyone, and I won't do it to you. If I agree with you, I'll say so (I don't expect you to care, btw) but if I don't, I won't feel obligated to dance around it, as you certainly don't.

I have only EVER started shit about someone because of their behavior DIRECTED AT ME PERSONALLY. If you don't see the difference, I can't help you.