What those XIII century troupadours were really saying

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  1. WolvesInTheThroneRoom

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    Lady: Eu veing vas vos, Seingner, fauda levada,
    c’auzitz ai dir c’avetz nom En Montan,
    c’anc de fotre non fui asassonada,
    et ai tengut dos anz un capellan,
    e sos clergues e tota sa masnada;
    et ai gros cul espes e trameian
    e maior con que d’autra femna nada.



    Lord:Et eu vas vos, dompn’, ab braga bassada,
    ab maior viet de nuill az’en despan,
    e fotrai vos de tal arandonada
    que los linzols storzerez l’endeman
    —e pos diretz c’ops i es la bugada;
    ni mais no·m leu ni mais mei coillon gran
    se tan no·us fot que vos zaires pasmada.



    Lady:pois tan m’aves de fotre menazada,
    saber volria, Seingner, vostre van,
    car eu ai gen la mia port’armada
    per ben soffrir los colps del coillon gran;
    apres comensarai tal repenada
    que no·us poiretz tener als crins denan,
    anz de darier vos er ops far tornada.



    Lord: Sapchatz, Midons, que tot aizo m’agrada
    —sol que siam ensems a l’endeman,
    mon viet darai en vostra port’armada;
    adoncs conoisseretz s’eu sui truan
    qu’eu vos farai lanzar per la culada
    tals peitz que son de corn vos senblaran
    —et ab tal son fairetz aital balada.
     
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    B_johnschlong New Member

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    Err, yes, and?

    Do you need a translation or something?

    By the way, it's troubadours (even though the root comes from "tropus").
     
  3. WolvesInTheThroneRoom

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    I need no translation, would you like one?
     
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    Yes, so we can compare notes. :wink:
     
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    You'll find in french and especially translated occitan it is often troupadour, but yes the modern troubadour is now used.
     
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    :smile: Welcome to LPSG, TarzanKingOfMars :smile:


    FYI - Though this site has thousands of international members, it is owned and operated by an American in the USA. Consequently, you must post in English.

    In addition, 13th century French music, is not exactly a hot topic for conversation. You may want to try reading a newspaper and choosing a topic that is more current. :cool:
     
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    yes, ma'am
     
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    Nothing out of the ordinary or you will suffer the lashes!
    That's my translation of your post.
    I will post what I damn well please. And I am American.
     
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    I was going to do this anyway everyone, so I am not caving to lpsg nazis ;)

    Lady: I come to you, Sir, with my skirt lifted,
    since I have heard your name is the Mounting Lord,
    and I was never sated with fucking:
    I kept a chaplain for two years,
    and his clerics and all his following;
    and I have a large, firm and sprightly butt
    and a larger cunt than any woman ever.



    Lord: And I come towards you, Lady, with my trousers lowered,
    with a larger cock than any randy donkey,
    and will fuck you with such an outburst
    that you’ll have to wring your bed-sheets the day after
    —-and say thereafter that they need to be washed;
    Neither I, nor my huge nuts will leave
    unless I fuck you until you pass out.



    Lady: Since you anticipate so much fucking,
    I would like to know, Sir, your pride,
    since I have armoured my entrance quite well
    in order to resist the attack of large testicles;
    then I’ll start kicking so much
    that you won’t be able to hold to the front hair
    and you’ll have to begin again from behind.

    Lord: Know, my lady, that I agree to all this:
    as long as we are together until tomorrow,
    I shall ram into your armoured entrance;
    then you’ll know whether mine is just boasting,
    since I’ll make you cast through your arse
    such farts as will sound like they come from a horn
    —and your dance shall suit the music.
     
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    oh you're so cultured.
     
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    It is something to aspire to.
     
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    OK, and see, I speak, read, and write French. That was hard for me to understand, even though I know a very little Spanish and Italian, and I studied Latin for 4 years.

    Obviously it's a dialect. Occitan? Really? That's very interesting. The translation helps a whole lot! :tongue:
     
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    Must? Must?? Is it in the ToS?

    Perhaps you mean if he wants to be understood by the majority of members he should post in English. But there is no 'must' about it.

    :biggrin1:

    I have no reason to doubt it is Occitan - you probably did better than me, my Latin is for all intents and purposes non-existant.
     
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    I don't doubt that it is Occitan. What I was trying to say is that it's interesting to see Occitan these days.

    And the Latin was no great help. I think the vocabulary is rather specialized, like slang for sexual words etc., and Occitan looks like it might have borrowed words from non-latin languages in it.

    Of modern spoken Romance Languages, French is the farthest away from Latin one can get. Romansch is allegedly the closest.

    It makes sense to me that French dialects would have words borrowed from Germanic, Celtic, and perhaps other native words that have no other ancestors.

    What I find interesting, for me anyway, is that it looks like a language I should understand, but I don't... LOL :tongue::biggrin1::redface:
     
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    Isn't Occitan more closely related to Catalan than to French? That would explain why even the Francophones are having a bit of trouble with it.
     
  18. simcha

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    Yeah, and I just read up on Occitan. Apparently it's more true to Latin than French. It has less Frankish vocabulary and almost no Celtic influence. Hmm, I wouldn't have known otherwise. I love learning something new...
     
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    Now this is more like it, thanks for the responses.
    It is easier in Occitan to color ones thoughts than in any other language, Occitan has more than 160,000 words whereas French for example has about 40,000.
    Truly a beautiful language.
     
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