What's it like to be bisexual for men?

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I have always been curious about the male bisexual mind. They're enigma to most gay men. Yes, I know this can be a politically charged topic and people are very defensive about the existence of the bisexual male, but I'm actually asking with sincerity and actual curiosity.

I don't know if I've ever met more than a two who openly identified as bi -- and one of them definitely said he was feeling less attracted to women as he got more comfortable being gay. The other, I felt was just having trouble coming out (for specific reasons I won't share, not because I don't believe in bisexuality.)

As a gay guy, I'm always wished i could be legit bisexual. For one, I didn't dislike women, but I just always knew in my heart of hearts I just got turned on by men. Even before I knew what "turned on" or "gay" meant, I knew--because it wasn't exclusively about sex. It was also manner, outlook, sensibility, behavior. Physically, I was also fascinated by men's bodies and kind of indifferent to women's. I had no interest in the stuff that seemed to interest other boys -- like football. As I matured, when I closed my eyes to masturbate, I always pictured naked men. I just got hard when I saw one. It was autonomic. I had secret crushes on guys in school, occasionally a girl but that almost felt forced. Even though I was always called a "faggot" by jocks and so forth, I occasionally dated girls, and even had a girlfriend in high school for a while. I tried to say I was bi for a while because I felt it was somehow "not as bad" as being a full-fledged faggot. Eventually, in college I found I no longer get hard when I was making out with women, so I dropped the pretense.

But for people that really are bi men, what's it like?

So I know the answers won't be universal, but there must be a cluster of basic shared experiences for bi guys.
For instance, when you're alone and close your eyes to jerk off, what comes to mind if you're a bisexual men--a man or a woman or both.
Do you check out both genders on the street? (Call it a stereotype, but I sure notice every hot man on the street, and I know straight men sure like to look at pretty women.) Or do you find that you like transwomen?
Who did you have a crush on in high school? How aware were you of your bisexual side?
Do you find yourself flirting with both sexes?
Do you get hard for a man the same way as a woman? (I've seen bisexual porn and it's always lame. At least one of the guys can't get it up, and there's usually zero chemistry between the actors.)
Do you "present" to world as straight?
Do you fall in love with men and women the same way with both?
What about non-sexual part of a relationship -- "spending your life together" and "planning a common future," the part of sexual identity that's more about intimacy than physical sex: what's that like for you when you think of a partner?
Do you consider yourself bi because you were married to a woman and had kids before coming out?
 

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Being bi for me is a gift and a curse. A gift because I understand straight men and gay men. A curse because the same people that you understand team up and call you disgusting, usually gay men which blew my fucking mind. I expected way more judgement from straight men but gay men seem to have the most comments about bisexuality. It also feels like you know the truth more than gay and straight people because you deal with both of em. When I close my eyes I personally think of who's the challenge in my life that I want to have that experience with. Yes I check out both genders when I'm out and about but I'm more careful with men than women. Even hitting on genders I'm more aggressive with girls in the sense of letting them know what I'm looking to do with them than with guys. Guys I'm passive because the guys I like. I like men that are masculine but don't feel like they have to prove anything. To me that's very very attractive and also usually those men are straight. Because I like women I can relate to how a straight man feels so I try not to impose my feelings on him just because I want something. And that's hard because men are sexy creatures just like women are but I'm a different way. For your other question, when I was in high school I was always attracted to women so I always knew I liked them but I had a small feeling of maybe I liked guys as well. There was this guy that was Latino. Long black straight hair, baby face, skinny and quiet masculine energy radiating off of him. I was so attracted to him that I would think about him when I didn't want to get up and go to school and it would immediately motivate me. I had a crush on this JROTC leader I had. She was Latino as well. But what I found sexy about her was her telling me what to do aggressively. It made me want to FUCK her. She was very beautiful. A caramel Latino. You also asked if I get hard for women like men? No I don't. For a man to attract my attention he needs to be masculine and confident but also in amazing control of his identity that other men can push him to be knocked off his center. He also needs to be able to go deep in conversation. And have a job or get up everyday and work to what he's desiring. For women she needs to be submissive to my masculinity. I find that power so attractive. It makes me put my guard down. Especially if she does something for me without wanting something in return. That act will make me want to repay her. Also she needs to be thoughtful and intelligent. If a girl is sexy but dumb I get immediately turned off and disappointed. As far as my perception people usually think I'm straight but that's because I grew up interacting in masculine social circles. I only know what it's like to have friends that are guys not friends that are girls. Lastly because I want kids one day I will eventually choose a women to be my partner. It's natural for me to like women so that's the decision I will make when it makes sense.
 

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I'm exactly like you except with a 10 to 1 ratio of women to men. Bi is simply both. :)

Your questions.

1. I fantasize one sex or the other at a time not both.
2. I check out both sexes on the street.
3. I like and have dated transwomen.
4. In high school I crushed on dozens of girls but only a handful of boys.
5. Number 4 is how I started to become aware I was bi.
6. I wasn't much a flirt in hs though many girls flirted with me and some called me a flirt tho I was only flirting back bc they initiated it. In retrospect some guys in hs flirted with me but I had no awareness if it was or might be romantic. I was aware of gay flirts outside of hs where I worked.
7. Yes I get as hard for men as I do for women given attraction. (IMO bisexual porn isn't bisexuality it's a three way with MM sexual contact which I've never done tho I have done MFM three ways.)
8. Yes I present as (look) straight though I do not think of myself as stereotypically straight.
9. Yes I crush & fall in love with both sexes.
10. Non-sexual part of relationship? I don't do exclusive relationships. I have no one significant other.
11. No I've never been married though was engaged three times to women when I was younger. I consider myself bi bc I'm attracted to women over men about 10 to 1. My 70/30 preference is an estimate of my ratio of sex parters.
 

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Being bi for me is a gift and a curse. A gift because I understand straight men and gay men. A curse because the same people that you understand team up and call you disgusting, usually gay men which blew my fucking mind. I expected way more judgement from straight men but gay men seem to have the most comments about bisexuality. It also feels like you know the truth more than gay and straight people because you deal with both of em. When I close my eyes I personally think of who's the challenge in my life that I want to have that experience with. Yes I check out both genders when I'm out and about but I'm more careful with men than women. Even hitting on genders I'm more aggressive with girls in the sense of letting them know what I'm looking to do with them than with guys. Guys I'm passive because the guys I like. I like men that are masculine but don't feel like they have to prove anything. To me that's very very attractive and also usually those men are straight. Because I like women I can relate to how a straight man feels so I try not to impose my feelings on him just because I want something. And that's hard because men are sexy creatures just like women are but I'm a different way. For your other question, when I was in high school I was always attracted to women so I always knew I liked them but I had a small feeling of maybe I liked guys as well. There was this guy that was Latino. Long black straight hair, baby face, skinny and quiet masculine energy radiating off of him. I was so attracted to him that I would think about him when I didn't want to get up and go to school and it would immediately motivate me. I had a crush on this JROTC leader I had. She was Latino as well. But what I found sexy about her was her telling me what to do aggressively. It made me want to FUCK her. She was very beautiful. A caramel Latino. You also asked if I get hard for women like men? No I don't. For a man to attract my attention he needs to be masculine and confident but also in amazing control of his identity that other men can push him to be knocked off his center. He also needs to be able to go deep in conversation. And have a job or get up everyday and work to what he's desiring. For women she needs to be submissive to my masculinity. I find that power so attractive. It makes me put my guard down. Especially if she does something for me without wanting something in return. That act will make me want to repay her. Also she needs to be thoughtful and intelligent. If a girl is sexy but dumb I get immediately turned off and disappointed. As far as my perception people usually think I'm straight but that's because I grew up interacting in masculine social circles. I only know what it's like to have friends that are guys not friends that are girls. Lastly because I want kids one day I will eventually choose a women to be my partner. It's natural for me to like women so that's the decision I will make when it makes sense.
Wow great insight! Thank you for sharing in such detail. It helps me understand what being bi is like. I wish more people would open up. Sorry you have had negative comments from gay men. I for one have never heard gay men say that being bi is disgusting (though sometimes I do hear them say vaginas are gross, which is annoying.)
 

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I'm exactly like you except with a 10 to 1 ratio of women to men. Bi is simply both. :)

Your questions.

1. I fantasize one sex or the other at a time not both.
2. I check out both sexes on the street.
3. I like and have dated transwomen.
4. In high school I crushed on dozens of girls but only a handful of boys.
5. Number 4 is how I started to become aware I was bi.
6. I wasn't much a flirt in hs though many girls flirted with me and some called me a flirt tho I was only flirting back bc they initiated it. In retrospect some guys in hs flirted with me but I had no awareness if it was or might be romantic. I was aware of gay flirts outside of hs where I worked.
7. Yes I get as hard for men as I do for women given attraction. (IMO bisexual porn isn't bisexuality it's a three way with MM sexual contact which I've never done tho I have done MFM three ways.)
8. Yes I present as (look) straight though I do not think of myself as stereotypically straight.
9. Yes I crush & fall in love with both sexes.
10. Non-sexual part of relationship? I don't do exclusive relationships. I have no one significant other.
11. No I've never been married though was engaged three times to women when I was younger. I consider myself bi bc I'm attracted to women over men about 10 to 1. My 70/30 preference is an estimate of my ratio of sex parters.
Fascinating insights!
 
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I'm usually thinking about either a man or a woman specifically if I close my eyes to jerk off, so it could be either.
Yes, I check out both genders and often think what they might be like in bed.
At high school I was interested in women and didn't get into guys in a sexual way until much later
I'm a terrible flirt with women I like but careful with guys
If I'm into a guy I'll be as hard for him as a woman I'm into. Different things set me off though, one of the things with a woman is her smell where as with guys its mainly visual.
I present as straight and most don't push that.
I fall in love with women slowly but lust with guys
Non sexual- that's a bit confusing so I avoid it and it would be the thing I haven't really worked out yet. I have a regular BF, relationship is pure sex and have a FWB relationship with a woman, sex with the aim of pregnancy. Certainly we have enough history to have a relationship of some sort but we are both bi at some level and it keeps things simpler to call it FWB even if its more.
I consider myself bi at some level because I'm aware of my meandering interest in both sexes.
 

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Great questions!

Answers from a bi guy here.

For instance, when you're alone and close your eyes to jerk off, what comes to mind if you're a bisexual men--a man or a woman or both.

I mostly jerk off to stories, pics what ever of gay guys...

Do you check out both genders on the street? (Call it a stereotype, but I sure notice every hot man on the street, and I know straight men sure like to look at pretty women.) Or do you find that you like transwomen?

Love transwomen, but largely focus on women.

Who did you have a crush on in high school? How aware were you of your bisexual side?

Girls only... I was not bi until I was maybe 47 yrs old (65 now)

Do you find yourself flirting with both sexes?

Generally no.. mostly women. There are few guys I actually flirt with, if any.. I can think of one guy at the gym, no longer there. Were he there today, I would flirt, for sure. (Trolling here - Minnetonka)

Do you get hard for a man the same way as a woman? (I've seen bisexual porn and it's always lame. At least one of the guys can't get it up, and there's usually zero chemistry between the actors.)

In porn, I get harder with men, for certain. In real life, my wife! I recently had or saw some excellent cross dressing, and it was amazing how fast I got hard...

Do you "present" to world as straight?

Yes.

Do you fall in love with men and women the same way with both?

nope!

What about non-sexual part of a relationship -- "spending your life together" and "planning a common future," the part of sexual identity that's more about intimacy than physical sex: what's that like for you when you think of a partner?

I think of women...

Do you consider yourself bi because you were married to a woman and had kids before coming out?

No, I became bi well after marriage (still very happily married now). Have not come out, except to a couple people. Do not feel the to come out.
 

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When I close my eyes to beat off I'm generally thinking about how fucking amazing my own cock is. I occasionally relive past sexual encounters. If I use porn then my favourite is stuff that just shows another guy wanking his cock. I can really relate to that and am totally into wanking, it's my hobby and it's like it's something parallel to sex. I've always been really into group wanks with other lads; in which case I don't use porn- they become my porn. Oddly I don't see jacking off with other males as a "Bi" or a "Gay" thing, even though I'm openly "Bi". I think those situations stand apart from usual definitions; it's a Cock thing, not a Gay thing.

Yeah I'll check out both genders in the street, it's what sunglasses were invented for! I'll be more obvious with girls but I don't hide that I'm looking at lads, I think all men who take pride in their appearance, such as guys who work out, expect to be checked out by their peers. It's a "Man thing" to size up the competition.

I've no interest in transwomen. I like my women to be all women and my men to be men.

I don't think I've ever flirted with a man as most of my male encounters have been in fetish clubs or gay saunas and you can literally go up to a guy and say "I wanna suck your cock" and then do the deed. And that's kind of anti-flirting.

I didn't really have any high school crushes but I did have a big and confusing thing for this amazing brown eyed boy in my first year of college. I'd ended up in this University that was a Christian institution and I felt simultaneously more worldly than a lot of people there and very constricted too. This lad was a really nice guy, I think most people fancied him but he was one of the holy rollers. I obviously put him on a pedestal and he may have been more broadminded than I gave him credit for but I chose to hide my feelings from him because living in secret misery but retaining his friendship was less painful than risking rejection.

Fall in love the same way with both? No it's different but it's only happened a few times maybe the individual people make it different not the gender.

I THINK I present to the world as "Straight". My interests: working out, sport, motorcycles, fixing things, films where someone gets killed, are all "Straight" attributes. The female-esque things I'm interested in I pursue in a very male way: cooking, gardening.

I've ranked myself 50:50 on the LPSG scale. My porn collection is more "Gay" than "Straight", I've had vastly more experiences with men than women but that's because in my experience men are more honest about needing casual sex. Emotionally I am probably homosexual in some form because girlfriends come and go but male friendships endure and are incredibly important for me. Yet I miss straight sex more and the older I get the more I crave eating pussy. Also the beginning of a relationship is more fun with a girl- is this because I feel I can/ have to flirt with them? Logically I should rank myself as 70:30 gay, or something but the need for pussy is getting overwhelming. NB I've been with my male partner for ten years. He's amazing and he was worth the wait. I know I could never be as comfortable or as happy- fullfilled I guess- with anyone else but this biological pussy itch won't go away and can't be scratched.
 
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You’re making this way more complicated than it needs to be!
All you need to feel bisexual is a romantic and/or a sexual attraction or arousal to both men and women. And that can be anywhere along the sexual continuum between straight and gay.

I personally have no romantic inclinations towards men although I do greatly enjoy sex with them.
 

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You’re making this way more complicated than it needs to be!
All you need to feel bisexual is a romantic and/or a sexual attraction or arousal to both men and women. And that can be anywhere along the sexual continuum between straight and gay.

I personally have no romantic inclinations towards men although I do greatly enjoy sex with them.
Thanks for the concise comments, @mushroomcap! Agree. I lust after guys and have for decade. Yet want to hold a woman and be married to them. A Ying and Yang.. I recently had my first experience with a guy and hope it will not be the last. However, not looking for a friend. I have regular friends and don’t need the sex complicating a friendship.
 
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"I fantasize one sex or the other at a time not both."

This right here. A neglected yet very important distinction and the reality that cannot be expressed in porn. I spent years pre-transition as a bisexual male. I was bi enough to have sex with either another man or a woman. But the few times I tried with both it proved to be a shit show. Looking for bisexuality to be affirmed in porn is simply impossible.
 

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I think about both girls and guys when I jerk off. Depends what mood I'm in. I'm not attracted to many guys, only certain young twinks, but some of the guys I am attracted to I really really like. I mostly just check out girls on the streets because there's not many guys I like, and I don't really notice a guys ass the same if they're wearing clothes. Living with a guy would probably be better than living with a girl because I would have more in common.
 

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I love sex with women and I enjoy sex with men both turn me on butt in different ways. It is difficult to put into words, my relationships have been and are with women and are longer term, the meets I have with guys are just that a short time, often straight down to business that's not to say these meets lack quality its just I'm not into a relationship with a man
 

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Thanks for the concise comments, @mushroomcap! Agree. I lust after guys and have for decade. Yet want to hold a woman and be married to them. A Ying and Yang.. I recently had my first experience with a guy and hope it will not be the last. However, not looking for a friend. I have regular friends and don’t need the sex complicating a friendship.
There's nothing wrong with being an heteroromantic bisexual (a bisexual man who's sexually attracted to both genders but prefers relationships with the opposite gender), although,I think it's best to let a gay man know that it's just a hook-up before sleeping with them because some of them get hooked and start contemplating a relationship, it's one of the reasons why gay men choose not to date bi men even if they homoromantic because since time immemorial,they get heartbroken as the man will leave them for a woman because she can give him everything he wants,from kids to some sense of heteronormativity etc
 

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when you're alone and close your eyes to jerk off, what comes to mind if you're a bisexual men--a man or a woman or both.
Sometimes guys, sometimes girls. I lean more to guys in general but I will Jack off to the idea of a busty blonde milf from time to time. Lol
Do you check out both genders on the street? (Call it a stereotype, but I sure notice every hot man on the street, and I know straight men sure like to look at pretty women.)
Absolutely. Best of both worlds
Or do you find that you like transwomen?
Yes and I am also attracted to trans men.
Who did you have a crush on in high school?
I had several male and female crushes in high school. At that time though I only had sex with girls.
How aware were you of your bisexual side?
Since the onset of puberty I realized I enjoyed looking at cute guys as well as girls
Do you find yourself flirting with both sexes?
Yep
Do you get hard for a man the same way as a woman?
Yeah, I think that's kind of how it works no? Hahaha
Do you "present" to world as straight?
I guess? I am not closeted if someone asks but most people will assume I am hetero until stated otherwise.
Do you fall in love with men and women the same way with both?
I tend to lean towards women in terms of romance slightly? But I have had both boyfriends and girlfriends and loved them equally
What about non-sexual part of a relationship -- "spending your life together" and "planning a common future," the part of sexual identity that's more about intimacy than physical sex: what's that like for you when you think of a partner?
For a long time I envisioned this with a woman but I am leaning into a vision of this with a guy as I get older.
Do you consider yourself bi because you were married to a woman and had kids before coming out?
Never married. No kids.
 

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Sometimes guys, sometimes girls. I lean more to guys in general but I will Jack off to the idea of a busty blonde milf from time to time. Lol

Absolutely. Best of both worlds

Yes and I am also attracted to trans men.

I had several male and female crushes in high school. At that time though I only had sex with girls.

Since the onset of puberty I realized I enjoyed looking at cute guys as well as girls

Yep

Yeah, I think that's kind of how it works no? Hahaha

I guess? I am not closeted if someone asks but most people will assume I am hetero until stated otherwise.

I tend to lean towards women in terms of romance slightly? But I have had both boyfriends and girlfriends and loved them equally

For a long time I envisioned this with a woman but I am leaning into a vision of this with a guy as I get older.

Never married. No kids.
Damn man,I so envy you. I've had relationships with women,both cis and trans (post op though) and trans men but I just can't seem to be with a cis man and it hurts because I get hard when I see them especially bears but let's get down to business,I puke and get super nervous, conversion therapy is a bitch