You are most certainly not alone in doing this many of us have and continue to do so:
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You are most certainly not alone in doing this many of us have and continue to do so:
i to have changed at a beach and gone for a swim. but i don't leave my undies on.
i think doing that in the bath's is very un-higienic, how do i know how long thay have had them on for, or how clean thay are.thay could be piss stains, and skidmarks in them for all i know, and some of that may come out in the water..
i think doing that in the bath's is very un-higienic, how do i know how long thay have had them on for, or how clean thay are.thay could be piss stains, and skidmarks in them for all i know, and some of that may come out in the water..
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When I visit my mum in Spain all the Spanish guys where speedo's, in Cornwall we have to wear entire wetsuits because the water is so frigging cold.
Just the fact that the video is flagged should tell you something about American hangups.
For the record, I respect the tough job moderators have on sites like this one. Someone apparently complained and I was not on in time to respond, so action was taken, which I totally understand. But again, just for the record, especially since the picture is no longer here to speak for itself:
1. The man was not naked at all in this picture.
2. Although the photo was a bit cropped, this man was wearing a bathing suit at a very public place. (Which according to communications law classes I have taken means he has what is called no reasonable expectation of privacy there, which means he can be legally photographed etc., etc.)
3. While the man might appear to have a bit of a young face to some, he is not under 18. While the moderator's edit reason reads, 'under 18 photo', what that actually means is that someone complained and that was his belief and NOT a proven fact at all. Again, I have no problem with this link being removed, and no problem with the tough job moderator's have to do responding to a complaint. I just want to explain further since the removal reason is there but obviously not the none-nude photo taken in a public place of someone that others know to be not under 18, but to someone's opinion looked enough like that in their opinion to complain.
4. Finally for my fellow members, please keep in mind that while some of you only like to look at beefy guys over 18 who look a lot older, there are others who also do not mind skinny guys 18 or older who look their age, but that might not be something you personally like to see. The great thing in a free society is some people can like beefy big guys, some guy might be 25 years old but likes to see only much older guys, some people are into seeing people of the same gender, some the opposite gender, some both, some are nudists, and some are very into so-called MILFs (older women), etc., etc., etc. Perhaps consider less judgment and fear of each other and our different preferences and orientations, and don't be so quick to attack, judge harshly, or make accusations.
Some people still think gays are evil, just wrong and should be outlawed, others think nudity in a locker room should be if they judge it excessive. So much judging, can lead to everyone's freedoms to be as they are, or to just simply live as they choose, to be evaporated.
"They began to name-call, label as criminals those who they simply labeled different, or had views, lives, or identities they disagreed with, or they labeled as dangerous, abnormal, or other such things."
“First they came for the Communists
But I was not a Communist, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and Trade Unionists
But I was not a Socialist or Trade Unionist, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews
But I was not a Jew, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Catholics,
I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me
But by then there was no one left to speak out for me.”
But I was not a Communist, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and Trade Unionists
But I was not a Socialist or Trade Unionist, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews
But I was not a Jew, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Catholics,
I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me
But by then there was no one left to speak out for me.”
-Reflections on the Holocaust.
Again, I have no problem with the tough job moderator's have to do responding to a complaint. My main concern is not at all with the moderators, thank you for all the hard work you do to keep this site alive and as well as can be.
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Jason_els, thank you for promoting the Trevor Project at the bottom of your posts. They do such good important work, I understand why so many young GLBT youth kill themselves, often even when they think they find accepting places they are simply labeled dumb twinks, or otherwise attacked, judged, accused of being horrible just for who they are and how God made them, etc. My understanding is that the Trevor Project was named for one of the many young GLBT human beings who it got so bad for with no one letting them in, accepting and welcoming them as they are, that they finally kill themselves, and the world loses all their wonderful potential. Trevor may have eventually become the Doctor who helps make breakthroughs in Cancer research, he may have discovered an incredible talent for writing beautiful songs so many of us would love to hear, who knows, but to some I'm sure he was just called a dumb twink, etc. and other harsh things. Ageism clearly goes more than one direction. I am glad there is something like the Trevor project for young GLBT to be more embraced before it's too late and they become another tragic suicide statistic. The fact that too many older folks who could help are afraid to get involved is a part of the problem, I have often learned so much from older guys, even just from conversations eventually started at a gym, or beach, etc. I am glad they are wiling to be around me and contribute and not be afraid to even look at me let alone talk to me just because I am younger than them. Male bonding can be so important, especially to those feeling a bit different, phobias, labels and name-calling must not be allowed to leave all too many of our youth feeling all too much alone. One reason some of my peers are so ashamed of themselves, their bodies, their existence is a failure of older role models, and a society that has tired to potentially negatively label all those who work with, look at, talk to, etc. anyone even just a bit younger than them.
Yes a few people do bad things to young people. But the overwhelming majority do not and that is not their intent. Studies show you have a greater chance of being seriously hurt or killed by your own father or family member than a stranger you meet or talk to, and you have a greater chance of being hurt or killed in your bath tub or in a car accident than by someone you talk to on the internet or even actually meet. We need to protect ourselves and others to some degree of course, but some actual facts and perspective is badly needed to combat increasingly unhealthy, prohibitive, and unproductive paranoia and phobias.
As a young male of legal age of consent, I am more than so tired of all too many throwing around labels (some of which I too have been called) such as dumb twink, a dumb jock, a perv, jail bait, pedo, sick, an abomination, etc., etc., etc. Also calling people worthless fat old fucks, ugly trolls that don't deserve to live, cradle robbers, crypt keepers, walking dead, etc.. etc.. etc. is definitely just as wrong as well. Ageism, homophobia, hetreosexism, and so many other things all too often are used to separate those of us who might benefit more from productively coming together when we can.
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Yes a few people do bad things to young people. But the overwhelming majority do not and that is not their intent. Studies show you have a greater chance of being seriously hurt or killed by your own father or family member than a stranger you meet or talk to, and you have a greater chance of being hurt or killed in your bath tub or in a car accident than by someone you talk to on the internet or even actually meet. We need to protect ourselves and others to some degree of course, but some actual facts and perspective is badly needed to combat increasingly unhealthy, prohibitive, and unproductive paranoia and phobias.
As a young male of legal age of consent, I am more than so tired of all too many throwing around labels (some of which I too have been called) such as dumb twink, a dumb jock, a perv, jail bait, pedo, sick, an abomination, etc., etc., etc. Also calling people worthless fat old fucks, ugly trolls that don't deserve to live, cradle robbers, crypt keepers, walking dead, etc.. etc.. etc. is definitely just as wrong as well. Ageism, homophobia, hetreosexism, and so many other things all too often are used to separate those of us who might benefit more from productively coming together when we can.
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I always wear a parka in the pool. lol:biggrin1: I joke! I ware plain old board shorts for pool fun and speedos for lap swimming. I never keep underware on under them, or my jeans for that matter.
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