when did you realise your sexual orientation?

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Long reply warning! I posted this on another forum some time ago, so I'm going to copy it here. It's a bit long, but it answers a lot of questions:

In my early 20s, I knew three things: I enjoyed gay porn, I loved my girlfriend, I didn't see myself ever wanting any sort of relationship with a guy. These three facts led me to consider myself "Straight." You can read around my older entries about that, but if I posted something in Hot Topics, it was usually answered with, "if you're straight, why are you here?" It led me to a conclusion that maybe some of the guys here, gay men who didn't want to be treated badly because of what they were, were just a bunch of hypocrites that wanted tolerance and the ability to show intolerance.

One of the things I heard a lot here was, "just admit that you're gay already." It offended me. And certainly didn't help me discover myself. In retrospect, it's extremely hard to discover oneself while sorting out a lifetime of religious beliefs, lifetime experiences, hormonal shifts, psychological shifts, social isolation, social expectations, and familial expectations. While filtering it all, I was also being told to admit to being something I didn't think I was. How unfair is that? An early twenties Catholic from a religious and conservative family where girls had to act like girls and boys had to be men, who'd had few friends that existed in reality from the ages of 7 through 12, who was overweight and unathletic, who (through some miracle) FINALLY got himself a (socially acceptable) female companion now had to be told that he was doing everything all wrong and had to ditch a girl he liked for someone else's belief that he was completely sexually incompatible with a member of the opposite sex. (That sentence is really long and confusing, but if you read it slowly, it will make sense.) Anyway, I did what I always did in the face of that.. I ignored it. Still, it hurts to have so many people of that opinion, especially when you're not going to have any support at home. I mean, it sickened me for a while that so many gay men just wouldn't leave it alone. And finally, I changed my label to something that would shut people up: Curious. I wasn't, really. I knew I liked women, I knew I enjoyed watching guys in pictures fuck, and I knew I'd spent enough time around other males to know I could never spend the rest of my life with one. In fact, I'd have thought the gay community would have been happy--less competition, but an understanding soul to compare notes with. Boy was I wrong.

There were a lot of guys, the cool ones, who were willing to accept me for what I identified myself as. In fact, they kept me laughing and feeling safe when the other commentators would try to make me feel vulnerable or inadequate. One, in particular, had a firm belief in how to balance a religious belief system that was not very open to anything beyond total heterosexuality. This was food for thought, and inspiration to boot! Eventually, though, life pulled me away from JUB. I had a house, my girlfriend helping me, and a relationship that was getting deeper and deeper as life happened. One day, I made some mention of a sexual urge, and she just said
"You're bi. It's ok to admit it."

It sounds weird, but it was as if I was so worried about driving her away, I didn't want to say it. And so, she did. She said she wouldn't reject me for admitting it! OMG, THIS was the woman I was content to spend the REST OF MY LIFE with!!!!
 

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I was 40, when I realized, what I knew and what I heard were two different things I used to get confused about my feelings, one day I woke up and discovered I had to come to grips with who I am as a whole person, I spent many a wasted night wring my hands over why do I think the way I do...well I have come to terms now with it, that it's about acceptance of my self and not about IdentityI know who I am!...it not about Orientation...it was about admitting and accepting that I'm a super Dominate purely Sexual Man...living in a world where repression and fear rules the times...I was afraid to be and admit that I am pure Male sexuality on a Monster level...I never wanted to be know as a Sexual-Outlaw a Freak with no bounds! now I don't give a flying fuck, and as far as I can tell, after all these yrs, Neither does God, only Mankind cares!
 

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Long reply warning! I posted this on another forum some time ago, so I'm going to copy it here. It's a bit long, but it answers a lot of questions:

In my early 20s, I knew three things: I enjoyed gay porn, I loved my girlfriend, I didn't see myself ever wanting any sort of relationship with a guy. These three facts led me to consider myself "Straight." You can read around my older entries about that, but if I posted something in Hot Topics, it was usually answered with, "if you're straight, why are you here?" It led me to a conclusion that maybe some of the guys here, gay men who didn't want to be treated badly because of what they were, were just a bunch of hypocrites that wanted tolerance and the ability to show intolerance.

One of the things I heard a lot here was, "just admit that you're gay already." It offended me. And certainly didn't help me discover myself. In retrospect, it's extremely hard to discover oneself while sorting out a lifetime of religious beliefs, lifetime experiences, hormonal shifts, psychological shifts, social isolation, social expectations, and familial expectations. While filtering it all, I was also being told to admit to being something I didn't think I was. How unfair is that? An early twenties Catholic from a religious and conservative family where girls had to act like girls and boys had to be men, who'd had few friends that existed in reality from the ages of 7 through 12, who was overweight and unathletic, who (through some miracle) FINALLY got himself a (socially acceptable) female companion now had to be told that he was doing everything all wrong and had to ditch a girl he liked for someone else's belief that he was completely sexually incompatible with a member of the opposite sex. (That sentence is really long and confusing, but if you read it slowly, it will make sense.) Anyway, I did what I always did in the face of that.. I ignored it. Still, it hurts to have so many people of that opinion, especially when you're not going to have any support at home. I mean, it sickened me for a while that so many gay men just wouldn't leave it alone. And finally, I changed my label to something that would shut people up: Curious. I wasn't, really. I knew I liked women, I knew I enjoyed watching guys in pictures fuck, and I knew I'd spent enough time around other males to know I could never spend the rest of my life with one. In fact, I'd have thought the gay community would have been happy--less competition, but an understanding soul to compare notes with. Boy was I wrong.

There were a lot of guys, the cool ones, who were willing to accept me for what I identified myself as. In fact, they kept me laughing and feeling safe when the other commentators would try to make me feel vulnerable or inadequate. One, in particular, had a firm belief in how to balance a religious belief system that was not very open to anything beyond total heterosexuality. This was food for thought, and inspiration to boot! Eventually, though, life pulled me away from JUB. I had a house, my girlfriend helping me, and a relationship that was getting deeper and deeper as life happened. One day, I made some mention of a sexual urge, and she just said "You're bi. It's ok to admit it."

It sounds weird, but it was as if I was so worried about driving her away, I didn't want to say it. And so, she did. She said she wouldn't reject me for admitting it! OMG, THIS was the woman I was content to spend the REST OF MY LIFE with!!!!

Not you're my kind of guy. You see, this is the same thing I have gone through. Ironically, I haven't dated yet so no experience with either sex.

But I do hate feeling almost shunned by the gay community. If I'm more comofortable being with a woman as my partner-in-crime, please don't say that I'm just conforming to society. If I ditch women, then aren't I conforming to the gay community? Women are what I can see myself with just because there is something in my heart and mind I can't control. For example, let's say I'm attracted to a hot girl and guy. If the guy is a dick, I'm almost immediately turned off. It takes a lot long for that to happen with a girl.

I went to Aero a few days a go and there was this really beautiful olive-skinned girl with dark hark. My heart stopped when I saw here, and I couldnt' help but smile everytime I saw her. Things were going through my head like taking her out on a date, giving her valentines presetns and what not. Doesn't happen with men.

I'm weird, because I get jealous when I see a woman with a baby and her husband is around. I really want a kid and I'm imagining myself with her. It never happens iwth a guy. A girl can come up to me in class and ask me to do her homework for her, and I would do it with not hesistation. If a guy were to do this, he had better be my best friend or else.

I'm not bashing gays or anything, far from it. I just hate the irony in people telling me how I SHOULD feel. Heck, even psycologists will do this with them and their Kinsey scale and convice people with certain feelings that that's the way they are born as if it's a one way road.
 

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Still in the proces of realising it...
I never loved a guy untill I joined lpsg... Didn't expected to love a guy, but it happend. Although I like gay porn at moments, I never had loved a guy... so after this happend it made me realise that I had to be more honest with myself... So still in that proces
 

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Pieter,

Real close to where you are, maybe a little further along. I also didn't realize that I could share any emotional feelings with a man until just recently (within the last year). Have somebody now that I am very much in love with. In fact, more so than any woman I have ever been involved with.

I used to have my percentages here 60/40 for that very reason. I have made some pretty detailed posts previously, so I'll condense it here.

Knew from the time I can remember that I was attracted to both male and females. Denied it and fought it for most of my life. Never had any male contact until I was an adult. Finally accepted it about 3 years ago. Still felt like it was only physical with males, and both physical and emotional with females.

Along the way, had many similar experiences with gay men as LGX and TaigaStar. Never understood why those who know the feeling of not being accepted, would project that so easily onto others? :rolleyes:

Recently, as I mentioned, I met someone and surprisingly found myself falling in love with him, and could be happier about it.:biggrin1:
 

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Mine changes. Sometimes i get so horny, i think i would almost certainly have sex with a guy, or atleast get head from one. Other times im not that bothered. Sometimes i sit and watch gay porn and have some pretty hard orgasms. Other times i watch it and have no reaction what so ever.

Currently i am in the midst of probably one of my horniest ever stages. Litterally, im like a dog on heat, i wanna fuck everything. However, only girls are crossing my mind. I find myself eating lunch, or in a class and i will see a girl and have to bite myself to calm down mentally.

However, these are all sexual. On an emotional level, i dont think i could ever be that close to a man. Atleast, not on a relationship level. It might have something to do with being very close to my mum and nan, but i usually am far more open and close to females.

Plus with guys, im only interested in dicks, whereas there is an inch of a women's body i dont love.
 

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I'm from the rural midwest. I never went throught the "curiosity" stage because it seemed like everyone was eager to have sex. It also helped being good looking lol.
 
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Welcome to the crowd, ILIW, there are a whole bunch of us out here who aren't attracted to men but are totally turned on by cock!

As for when I realized it, I'm with Hung Jon in that it's an evolving process and I'm still discovering my sexual orientation.
 

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I think sexuality/emotionality is an evolving process. I never thought that I could fall in love with someone of the same gender but it happened anyway. The sexual expression is just an extension of love.

You are wise for a man of your age... So very lucky! I believe in your statement. Could have not said it better myself. Good job man!
 

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I started messing around with guys when I was about 12. I dated girls in high school and never considered myself gay at all even though i enjoyed cock. I was seduced by an older guy when I was 17 who was bisexual. He dated women but also liked sex with men. We had sex several times over the next few years. I had my first MMf threesome with him and his girlfriend. It was with him that I identified myself as bisexual. Although I "dated" women in my 20s, my porn preferance was male and I would often go to gay bars for a pick up. Still single at 30, I began to see men more and more often. At 34 I came out as gay and saw men exclusively. At 35 I met my wife while I was dating a guy. Got married at 37. I now identify myself as a monogomus bisexual. My sexual activity is exclusely with my wife, but my porn preferance is about 80% male.

My sexuality has evolved over time. I enjoy who I am and I would not chang a thing. Except maybe coming out as gay and then getting married a few years later. Probably confused my famely more than me.
 
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