When Did You Realize Your Endowment Was Below Average

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As a companion to the thread “when did you realize your endowment was large”, let’s hear some insights into when and how you first discovered you were smaller than average.

We are talking that your final adult sized endowment is below average, so 18+ stories only, please.

I will start it off: although my hard size is now considered average but the studies published in the last decade, bulky soft size is definitely below average.

in High School, I had measured my boner and it was about half an inch shorter than what was then considered average. So I just assumed I’d “grow into” average. I was sort of a nerd/book guy rather than an athlete, so I was never around locker rooms or open nudity.

in college, however, my roommate encouraged me to work out to gain confidence. He was a fitness jut who had billed up stating as a freshman in high school. I took his advice and started working out. For the first time I was in open locker rooms with college guys that we not nearly as modest as the PE locker room. And I noticed that everyone seemed to hang and flop. The other guys dicks seemed to have a weight of their own. While kind sort of bobbed up and down or stuck out. (Working out always leaves me at my worst as well.)

noticing this, I did some online research and found out what average was. Remeasuring, I found out that my bone was decidedly below average. (Later I realized my thickness, which wasn’t even talked about in the stats of the time, was above average, leading to an overall average erection.)

Some time after this, a drunken conversation with some college girls about the size of their boyfriends led to a late night drunk conversation with some of my college friends about our own endowment. Out of the men who self-reported their size, I tied for the smallest. Now, that was self-reported, so I know there was likely some exaggeration. But none of the guys claimed an outrageous size (the biggest claimed 7 inches). And their relative claims matched their soft endowment as seen in the locker room. So I left the conversation convinced that—even if some of the measurements were exaggerated—I was most likely the amount the smallest men in my crew of 5 or so best college friends.

that night I jacked off in my dorm room explicitly thinking about size for the first time. Specifically how my friend who claimed 7” had a head-length on me... how he could go deeper into a pussy than I could, and how he now knew it.

so those 3 factors combined to make me realize I was below average.
1) noticing I had a smaller hang than other college men in the locker room
2) measuring verses average length statistics at the time
3) drunken conversation where college friend openly talked about their size.


Of course, I now know my hard on is pretty much average. And I’ve never had a problem feeling like I couldn’t please a woman. (There are posts I’ve made about this elsewhere). But this experience in my freshman/sophomore years in college forever burned the image of myself as a smaller endowed man in my male ego.
 
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As a companion to the thread “when did you realize your endowment was large”, let’s hear some insights into when and how you first discovered you were smaller than average.

We are talking that your final adult sized endowment is below average, so 18+ stories only, please.

I will start it off: although my hard size is now considered average but the studies published in the last decade, bulky soft size is definitely below average.

in High School, I had measured my boner and it was about half an inch shorter than what was then considered average. So I just assumed I’d “grow into” average. I was sort of a nerd/book guy rather than an athlete, so I was never around locker rooms or open nudity.

in college, however, my roommate encouraged me to work out to gain confidence. He was a fitness jut who had billed up stating as a freshman in high school. I took his advice and started working out. For the first time I was in open locker rooms with college guys that we not nearly as modest as the PE locker room. And I noticed that everyone seemed to hang and flop. The other guys dicks seemed to have a weight of their own. While kind sort of bobbed up and down or stuck out. (Working out always leaves me at my worst as well.)

noticing this, I did some online research and found out what average was. Remeasuring, I found out that my bone was decidedly below average. (Later I realized my thickness, which wasn’t even talked about in the stats of the time, was above average, leading to an overall average erection.)

Some time after this, a drunken conversation with some college girls about the size of their boyfriends led to a late night drunk conversation with some of my college friends about our own endowment. Out of the men who self-reported their size, I tied for the smallest. Now, that was self-reported, so I know there was likely some exaggeration. But none of the guys claimed an outrageous size (the biggest claimed 7 inches). And their relative claims matched their soft endowment as seen in the locker room. So I left the conversation convinced that—even if some of the measurements were exaggerated—I was most likely the amount the smallest men in my crew of 5 or so best college friends.

that night I jacked off in my dorm room explicitly thinking about size for the first time. Specifically how my friend who claimed 7” had a head-length on me... how he could go deeper into a pussy than I could, and how he now knew it.

so those 3 factors combined to make me realize I was below average.
1) noticing I had a smaller hang than other college men in the locker room
2) measuring verses average length statistics at the time
3) drunken conversation where college friend openly talked about their size.


Of course, I now know my hard on is pretty much average. And I’ve never had a problem feeling like I couldn’t please a woman. (There are posts I’ve made about this elsewhere). But this experience in my freshman/sophomore years in college forever burned the image of myself as a smaller endowed man in my male ego.
The first sexual encounter I had (at 19) the woman failed to climax even once, over the period of an hour. She later told my best friend at the time that she'd seen more meat in a vegan restaurant than I had.

There was also another woman whom a friend of mine arranged to have an encounter (oral) with me, and she wouldn't do it after seeing me naked. She also informed him I was too small.

I've endured a plethora of trenchant and emasculating comments from women about my appearance and endowment over the years, but that was the first I heard regarding my penis.
 

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The first sexual encounter I had (at 19) the woman failed to climax even once, over the period of an hour. She later told my best friend at the time that she'd seen more meat in a vegan restaurant than I had.

There was also another woman whom a friend of mine arranged to have an encounter (oral) with me, and she wouldn't do it after seeing me naked. She also informed him I was too small.

I've endured a plethora of trenchant and emasculating comments from women about my appearance and endowment over the years, but that was the first I heard regarding my penis.

interesting that your experience came from direct feedback from women. And mine came from indirect comparing with fellow men.

how small are you?

I’ve never had a woman comment critically of my size. All negative size moments for me have been generic comments by other men about size in general which (without them knowing) actually apply to me.
 
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interesting that your experience came from direct feedback from women. And mine came from indirect comparing with fellow men.

how small are you?

I’ve never had a woman comment critically of my size. All negative size moments for me have been generic comments by other men about size in general which (without them knowing) actually apply to me.
Just under five inches long and 4.5" girth. Some have thought mine was bigger because of how proportionally thick it looks, but I am 6'5" so it looks even shorter in a full body shot. I realize now mine isn't abnormally small; just below average.

My remarks have all been from women because in my early life I didn't date men (long story; was a closeted bisexual and afraid of judgment from my family) so I attempted to date only women. They have all been exceedingly cruel. Men in here have been very positive and supporting however. The Latin signature under my name tells it well. It means "repulsive to women, beautiful to some men."

Hence, why I have no self esteem left. I managed to find a woman who did accept me (settled for me), the only one who would on a planet of 4 billion plus women. That is a fact.

Thankfully, today guys in general are more open minded and accepting of all sizes. We're I 19 again and single, I'd probably try my hand at the gay dating scene.
 

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I’ve not had negative experiences with women. Although I’m both longer and thicker than you.

have 5 x 5 on a 5’9 frame either seems more reasonable to them... or the women you’ve encountered were just mean or low class.

a shame:
 
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I’ve not had negative experiences with women. Although I’m both longer and thicker than you.

have 5 x 5 on a 5’9 frame either seems more reasonable to them... or the women you’ve encountered were just mean or low class.

a shame:
Those I encountered were tactless, but they were truthful at least. In the end it permanently destroyed my self esteem.

Despite that, I do not bear women ill will for it; they like what they like. Nature has dictated that I attract men only.

I am sorry that you ran across judgmental men in your encounters though.
 

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Well, like I said, it wasn’t judge mental men in encounters like you’ve had with women.

this was more like “guys talk”. Comments friends made about size in general that applied to me. Although they didn’t know it.

like if a guy has less than 5.5 he should never admit it.
 

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College for me too. Until then I'd been able to hold out hope that I might still grow. But in college I had to face facts that I already probably had all that I was going to have down there.
 
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Was it purely a self-assessment if your size? Just measuring and comparing it to the average stats?

or was it in contrast to seeing or talking to other people?

what’s your size, man?
 

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I have encountered some of the meanest women on earth. I know it isn't fair.
Women always laughed at or rejected me when they saw my size.
I haven't had sex in about 20 years because of it.
 
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I have huge low balls and about average dick. More of a grower than a show-er though, and always felt like I should be bigger based on my build and genes (Italian). Been in locker rooms my whole life.

In the final analysis, do you think of yourself as an average man or a small man?
 

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How silly. Plenty of guys in real life are a bit smaller than that.

oh I know man. That was an example of a size comment a friend made to me, but not knowing my endowment.

I just used it as an example of the kind of size comments I’ve encountered. Never have any been directed at me from a male friend (locker room tease) or a female lover.
 
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I was more of an "art student" in HS and what little time I spent in the locker room I was rarely naked. I think I noticed how some guys were larger but it didn't compute. Then in college I noticed it more when I lived with other guys but for some reason it didn't really start affecting me until I started having sexual encounters with men and it seemed every time they pulled out their cock it was massive compared to mine. I'm avg when erect at 6" and soft its pretty small cause I retract a lot. So it might hang 3" but my balls are super small and sucked up inside me a lot. So not having visible testicles makes it even worse and I have thin girth too. So for me it was when I started seeing guys up close and personal, looking at gay porn, etc. I honestly didn't have many body issues until I came out and started being with a lot of men. And ever since then its just compounded to where I'm too embarrassed to even mess around. I even get some bites on Grindr and stuff but I always feel obligated to warn them I'm not hung before we meet. Like I'm giving them an out. I know thats not a healthy outlook and its my insecurity alone. But its something challenging for me.
 
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Definitely through comparing myself to guys I saw at urinals, locker rooms, etc. It’s not just that I was smaller, but way smaller than even the smallest other cocks I saw. Later online research confirmed that in terms of flaccid size I’m pretty much as small as it gets, and I’ve still never seen a smaller soft cock in real life.

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Conversely, as I’m actually above average hard, I’ve never had any complaints from sexual partners!

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The ‘joys’ of being a grower, I suppose
 

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She later told my best friend at the time that she'd seen more meat in a vegan restaurant than I had.

I just watched your pics and I think you are not that small. I think you are still on the lower side of average. Nothing to worry about.
 
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I just watched your pics and I think you are not that small. I think you are still on the lower side of average. Nothing to worry about.

Appreciated, and thank you.

She was but one of many women who made comments, not just about my size but my general appearance and overall looks. Made me feel uglier than homemade sin.

I've learned ever since I joined LPSG that I am nice looking to some men, but unacceptable and gross looking to women.
 
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Appreciated, and thank you.

She was but one of many women who made comments, not just about my size but my general appearance and overall looks. Made me feel uglier than homemade sin.

I've learned ever since I joined LPSG that I am nice looking to some men, but unacceptable and gross looking to women.
Who cares. Everyone is ugly or attractive to someone. I highly doubt all women think you are gross looking. But how you view yourself defines a lot of that.
 
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when i was a kid my parents had one playgirl magazine. I'd look at it constantly (duh turned out to be gay), but i'd convince myself i was just looking at it to see how big my cock would eventually get. It never did. But i was fascinated with this one guy who had a huge cock. I jerked off to him all the time. All the guys i've had as long term partners have been hung af. I don't like small guys and i know that's not fair cuz i am small. I figured out i was tiny one day when i went on gridnr as a different guy and texed this one guy i'd had sex with. I asked him about what the smallest cock he'd been with was and he clearly described me and said it was "awful". Well moving forward that's been my experience. I wish i liked smaller guys but i dont.
 
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