When does something 'cross' the line between straight and gay?

[B_Sweetcar]

I know some of this stuff has been discussed here in other threads. I'm just wondering WHEN certain behavior amoung guys crosses the line. Guess a lot of what I'm talking about stems from what I've seen on sites like Fratpad or Haze Him and sites like that.

Of course I love the site and wouldn't want to change it. Here's what I do think; I'm sure a lot of the guys that join the pad, at least at first, could be considered straight. I CAN understand a guy can be straight and not mind hanging out with guys in the nude. I also can see straight guys taking showers together, going to a hot tub nude together and stuff like that.
What crosses the line for me are things like jerking off together (I'm sorry I realize some people think this is a part of growing up but I'm uncomfortable with that idea). Massaging each other in the nude, wrestling in the nude or playing 'dick games'.

What do you all think?? How far can a guy still consider himself straight in situations like I've mentioned?

 

[D_Harry_Crax]

Sigh...........................

 

[B_Sweetcar]

Come on guys! Are you all bored with this subject or what......

Does it depend on the individual??? I am curious about this.

 

[B_debonair87]

yes 2 or more men in the same room together with rock hard dicks and no female in sight is gay

 

[DrCalvin]

why do you feel the need to put u a definitive line? does it really freakin matter?

 

[f0zzie05]

If you get off with a guy(s) and are turned on by him/them that's pretty gay, and hot ; ) if you are naked with guys and are not aroused but then watch porn n think of chicks to get off I'd consider that borderline maybe bi. Fact is it's not a big deal. As James Dean said, "Why limit yourself to half the population." NBD if u have bi tendencies, get over it almost everyone is bi.

 

[CardiffDillon]

Gay or str8 is about what you are and not what you do. A gay man can have sex with a woman but that doesn't make him str8. A lot of male performers in gay porn are str8 even though they have sex with guys. Male rape is frequently carried out by str8 men on other str8 men.
Sexuality is rarely exclusively str8 or gay, most people are somewhere on a spectrum. As the old joke says, 'What's the difference between a str8 guy and a gay guy?' Answer: 8 pints of beer.

 

[MrHangman]

Sexual behavior =/= sexual orientation. You draw your own lines.

 

[lbmaine]

I've always felt that sexuality is on a sliding scale....gay on one end and straight on the other. Depending on the circumstances, the scale slide back and forth. I know it does with me. Anyone else feel this way?

 

[dong-in-khakis]

No matter what those guys from Fratpad say or do, they are gay.. bi at the least.

Remember, straight in the true definition means exactly that, and means 100 percent straight. I'm not knocking anyone, but they're aren't many truly straight people in the world.

Put your mind at ease, what they do tells what their sexual preference is.

 

[erratic]

When does something 'cross' the line between straight and gay?

1) When there's a dick in your mouth (woman-identified people are exempt from this rule).
2) When your balls touch.
3) When you're the little spoon.
4) When you lose your wedding ring in her cervix (male-identified people are exempt from this rule).
5) When you're not getting paid for it.
6) When you enjoy it.
7) When you're out of jail.
8) When you're doing it for Jonny Depp.
9) When you're out of university.
10) When you forget to say "no homo" before doing any of the above. (As in: "No homo..." *gulp, slurp, slurp, "...but your cock tastes great!")

I'm only half-joking; I've for-real heard people say all of the above in all seriousness.

 

[B_Nick8]

I'm only half-joking; I've for-real heard people say all of the above in all seriousness.

So have I. :wink:

 

[D_CountVonBhigBohner]

When u swallow a load with your eyes open.....

 

[Silvertip]

I've always felt that sexuality is on a sliding scale....gay on one end and straight on the other. Depending on the circumstances, the scale slide back and forth. I know it does with me. Anyone else feel this way?

Yes, there is no line between straight and gay. If you consider one black and the other white then there are infinite shades of gray between them. The OP's need to define such a line in the sand is just indicative of a narrow little mind that wants to conveniently pigeonhole other people. That's a helluva lot easier than having to explore the complexities of another human being.

 

[Smaccoms]

I've always felt that sexuality is on a sliding scale....gay on one end and straight on the other. Depending on the circumstances, the scale slide back and forth. I know it does with me. Anyone else feel this way?

I dislike putting gay and straight on the same scale; it implies the idea that you are one or the other, which we've already established is not true. I separate the two in my mind.

Height is something where there is one scale. The purpose of the scale is to depict the simplicity of the concept: one number to each individual. Is sexuality as simple? Of course not.

The idea of homosexuality and heterosexuality being equal and opposite stems from the idea that men and women are opposites: attraction to the same-sex versus attraction to the opposite-sex. I believe men and women to be complementary, not opposites. Are women weak and men pigs? These are cultural stereotypes connected to perceived gender roles, rather than sex itself.

The place where psychology meets sociology is a poorly understood subject, yet a vital one. The issue is human beings are social creatures; the human psyche centers about the social. This can clearly be seen in the variation in self-identity: it's flexibility is necessary for the human condition.

When we are alone, the concept of sexuality can be understood at a deeper level. I can [hypothetically] enjoy sex with women while maintaining my personal preference for men. I know my sexual practices do not directly affect or alter my sexual orientation.
In small & tight-knit groups, this is no longer as true. Everyone must agree on what is acceptable and what is not. General consensus must exist for what the majority considers most important. Otherwise, no one would be able to relate to one another and the group would fall apart: thus the phrase, "the chain is only as strong as it's weakest link".
When the societal level is reached (i.e. massive groups with only one connection, in this case American or global citizenry), standards come into play to maintain the previously described balance. The US population is 307 million. One must consider the "weakest link" and the variation of peoples' in this population. When a major change DOES occur with enough backing in this population for standards to make a major shift, a movement is typically seen.

We must be able to understand how sexuality exists between the psychological and sociological. Without such an understanding, advancement in our own sexuality reaches a "glass ceiling". We become frustrated and stuck due to the confusion of how our sexuality relates to others around us and why that is important.

I really have too much of a thing for writing insanely long responses...I'm sorry!

 

[Smaccoms]

Put your mind at ease, what they do tells what their sexual preference is.

:lmao:

Seriously?

:twak:

 

[Smaccoms]

Sigh...........................

:dunno:

go figure...

 

[Incocknito]

If a male body part touches another male body part then it's gay. This is whether the act is imagined or not.

So imagining a guy sucking your dick is as gay as a guy actually sucking your dick.

Jerking off with another male present can be 'straight' or at least not gay, as long as the two males do not touch parts and possibly if their genitals are covered/hidden but that is not absolutely necessary.

 

[Smaccoms]

If a male body part touches another male body part then it's gay. This is whether the act is imagined or not.

So imagining a guy sucking your dick is as gay as a guy actually sucking your dick.

Jerking off with another male present can be 'straight' or at least not gay, as long as the two males do not touch parts and possibly if their genitals are covered/hidden but that is not absolutely necessary.

Why don't you write us a rule book? All those guys DYING to preserve their "masculinity" by being "as straight as possible" pat would really salute yea!

 

[flawdatiger]

I'm not trying to start stuff here, but it really seems to me that the percentager's make it very difficult for anyone to assert any type of masculinity. It's logical to the common person that two dicks rubbing together is kinda gay (or g0y, if you are into that).

You may hate labels, you may hate being identified as liking one thing or another, but don't throw shade on people who prefer those things.

Why don't you write us a rule book? All those guys DYING to preserve their "masculinity" by being "as straight as possible" banghead2 would really salute yea!