When guys dress like women

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Yes I did laugh because she was imitating the man at the time and it was funny sorry if anyone is offended...if you wanna dress like a woman do it but don't get mad cause some people find it not cute
 

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Also a man has choice to dress like a woman...being black, disabled you don't
so the lesson to tech your kids is,

be like everyone else!
don't be you. you're not good enough the way you are. nobody will accept you if you dare to express who you really are.
so wear what they wear, say what they say, do what they do. it's the only way to be.

...i think i'll pass on teaching my kids that one.
 
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There's a world of difference between not cute and disgusting or gross, which is what some people here are calling it.

And why not get offended? It's okay for someone to be offended at a man dressing like a woman, but it's not okay to be offended because someone is offended by it? That is just stupid. They aren't the ones with the problem, try and remember that.
 

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so the lesson to tech your kids is,

be like everyone else!
don't be you. you're not good enough the way you are. nobody will accept you if you dare to express who you really are.
so wear what they wear, say what they say, do what they do. it's the only way to be.

...i think i'll pass on teaching my kids that one.


Well dressing like a woman is accepting who you really are?? Ok
 

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Well dressing like a woman is accepting who you really are?? Ok
it is for a transvestite/transexual.
it's who they are.
some men only feel whole and real in pantyhose and lipstick.
it doesn't have to make sense to me for me to accept it.
 

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yeah, and gay people shouldn't kiss or hold hands in public.

another weak argument from what I can only assume is a weak mind
honestly dolfette I can't believe so many people here think highly of you when you make posts like this...

did you miss the responces from crossdressers here that admit they do it for attention...
 

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There's a world of difference between not cute and disgusting or gross, which is what some people here are calling it.

And why not get offended? It's okay for someone to be offended at a man dressing like a woman, but it's not okay to be offended because someone is offended by it? That is just stupid. They aren't the ones with the problem, try and remember that.

the problem with that is the argument does indeed work both ways
people simply can't help what they do or don't find gross
on one should be MADE to dress a way other then they want to (aside from uniform type jobs liek the military etc) but neither should anyone be MADE to feel it's ok
brainwashing is wrong no matter WHAT the goal
bottom line, if you dress in a manner that yo know will get you attention, just to get you the attention, you don't have the right to tell people the attention has to be a certain way
if some people find it gross, deal with it
people who want to be different are no more important or better then people who want to conform...
 

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it is for a transvestite/transexual.
it's who they are.
some men only feel whole and real in pantyhose and lipstick.
it doesn't have to make sense to me for me to accept it.

in fact that is not who they are
it is who they WANT to be
if it was who they ARE no one would notice something odd about them dressing like that
no one is suprised to see a military officer in a military uniform...however if you saw a military officer dressed like a clown.....well you would notice it
 

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I think this is another one of those issues that won't go a way simply. So many of us guys (and women) are caught in our own definitions of masculinity so it's hard and intimidating to buck that. Gender definition seems so basic to most of us that even deviating from it a little causes a lot of fear. Halloween and costume parties are the times when we can shed our gender identity for just a short time and enjoy being different and having it be acceptable. I also think that the gay and transgendered communities have a lot to teach the rest of us about gender images. I live in Los Angeles and going with friends to gay clubs in West Hollywood is an amazing experience, especially around any holiday period. People are so creative about what they wear and how they express themselves. It's not only fun but interesting as hell. I think gender identity is just another thing we need to see through, although it seems to be more difficult than most.
 

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in fact that is not who they are
it is who they WANT to be
if it was who they ARE no one would notice something odd about them dressing like that
no one is suprised to see a military officer in a military uniform...however if you saw a military officer dressed like a clown.....well you would notice it

Issues with gender identity are not a psychological condition, if they were than gender re-assignment surgery would be illegal and it's not (even in Iran).

Logic and facts are not on your side: gut-emotional response is. Run with it all you like, but it's not a convincing argument about anything aside from how you feel about seeing someone whom you don't know dressed in a manner you don't approve of.
 
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no one is suprised to see a military officer in a military uniform...however if you saw a military officer dressed like a clown.....well you would notice it

But I bet not many would be offended by that, except people who have a fear of clowns.

And I'm not trying to brainwash anyone, I'm trying to make them reflect on why they feel that way so they can mature. You know, something that adults do. Would you be against someone trying to help a racist see the error of his ways? Some people can't be helped, but I would never call that time trying to help them a waste. Maybe what I said doesn't change any of the people in this thread's mind. But maybe it will change someone who read this thread's mind and see that their reaction to cross dressing is trite. If I only help one, it's worth it. Acceptance and equality doesn't come from not speaking against the issue.
 
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Wow. Some people really are just closed off from life and world. Anyone else wanna hold hands- wearing a mini skirt, 4 inch pumps, while singing "Beautiful" by Christina Aguilera? My drag days are OVER, but I'm willing to squeeze in a mini-skirt for the cause. For the heels, someone's getting me a beer.
 
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Most male transvestites are men who do it in private, the original meaning of "closet queens." Those who cross-dress in public generally do so for attention, a form of exhibitionism. If you really want to get them, don't respond to what really is an aggressive demand that people pay attention to them.
 

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There's a week in Provincetown, MA (Cape Cod) that celebrates this whole theme of men who like to wear womens' clothes. I forgot what the weekend is called, but I think it takes place in August or September.

And what's great about this P-town celebration is that it's not just for drag queens and transvestites. For the curious or closeted men who don't identitfy as either a drag or TV, it's a "safe place" for them, too.

Men-- husbands, fathers, gay, straight-- from all walks of life come together to just relax and dress their fancy. It's probably very therapeutic. I am told that many average, everyday "mainstreamers" and frustrated househusbands plan their calendars around this weekend in Provincetown.

For some, it's the only place where they can openly express themselves without judgment, guilt or embarrassment.
 

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I personally love it when men dress as women and I also love women dressing as men (ML: We need some examples, girl! :tongue::wink: ).

I get that some people won't be into it, totally fine, but this "gross" business is disheartening. What are you guys, 12?

You don't get the "gross" bit? It's just a selfish, self centered-ness as if everything in the world has to either appeal or be rejected by themselves. As if any man, dressed as a woman, was somehow offering himself to them for their approval, or worse, planning to attack or trying to attack them. So, it's really the thought of this kind of thing coming at them that's "gross" to them. In truth, they simply can't get their brains around the idea that not every thing on the planet is being done to seek their approval or interest. Better they get on with their own life, finding out what turns them on and how to get it, l than merely attempting to make themselves feel good, by exercising the worthless superiority of rejection of others.

Ooops, my soapbox just broke. lol
 
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There's a week in Provincetown, MA (Cape Cod) that celebrates this whole theme of men who like to wear womens' clothes. I forgot what the weekend is called, but I think it takes place in August or September.

And what's great about this P-town celebration is that it's not just for drag queens and transvestites. For the curious or closeted men who don't identitfy as either a drag or TV, it's a "safe place" for them, too.

Men-- husbands, fathers, gay, straight-- from all walks of life come together to just relax and dress their fancy. It's probably very therapeutic. I am told that many average, everyday "mainstreamers" and frustrated househusbands plan their calendars around this weekend in Provincetown.

For some, it's the only place where they can openly express themselves without judgment, guilt or embarrassment.

There used to be a place in the Crown & Anchor complex in PTown called "Before and After", where, for a fee, one could go through a total drag make-over: hair, make-up, clothes: the works.

I wonder if it's still there?
 
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