When Straight Guys go too far

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Lee_M said:
To be honest i am thinking that you friends know you were/are bi and they are playing with you to se how you will react. Dare i say if you ever did decide to take one of them up on their seemingly obvious advances they would shit themselves instantly and not knoow what to do. So personally unless you like getting off on the whole situation id say try and end it or at least calm it down a little

That is what I was thinking too....But I do think they are curious....But I am going to let them make the move and really state their intentions....I think with the whole metrosexual thing going on - straight guys are getting more comfortable w/their sexuality and more experimental....Yeah I have freaked out some straight friends in the past after their curiousity and we hook up and the next day they have the regret thing and start to question their sexuality....Friends are more important to me....I think since they only see me with women - they are kind of scared just to come out and ask me if I am bi....One that I am really close to did ask me - since I really consider you a good friend I wanted to know if you were gay - which I said No (because I don't consider myself gay)....I usually don't tell people I have hooked up w/guys and would be consider bi unless they ask....Then another that I am really close just came out and told me that he knows I am straight but thinks I am probably bi and like 90% straight and 10% into guys I don't know it yet (I thought that was funny and thought about this site)....I told him he is probably right....We are actually closer since that and he is probably the same and that is why we are so comfortable with each other....
 

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NiceDude said:
First and foremost: I am jealous, lol! I can't help thinking that these guys are really curious from what your story tells us, often you see guys hooking up with women all the time, trying very hard to be as straight as you can while all they really want is to get some cock. It almost seems they are trying to keep up a certain image untill the drinks get flowing, then the real deal comes out. How many have real genuine relationships with women? And are they happy in these relationships?

Don't be jealous....Sometimes I think it is harder to be bi than gay or straight....You kind of have to be on your guard or you may end up trying to hump every hot guy or girl you meet....I mean I have hooked up w/a guy and his girlfriend before....I kind of felt like a freak after that and avoided them both....
 

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I hate labels. Grrr. LOL. But anyways sounds like you and your friends are just sexual....yeah thats why I said I hate labels. But anyways similar happened to me, well even before that I would get comments. But I got drunk in the carribean and we went to the bathroom and I was wrecked at the urinal with my head against the wall pissing and my buddy was done and he came from behind and grabbed my cock. Sorta fuckin up my stream of piss. I was more pissed at that then the actualy grabbin my cock. But anyways for some reason your story and bonding reminds me of tht show on HBO...ENTOURAGE
 

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Pene_Negro_Grande said:
...But lately when we are out and the boys get a little drunk - the comments get a little more sexual (like wanting to see my package), grabbing my crotch or grabbing my arse, kissing my on the neck, cheek and forehead....I probably never act on it because I value friendship more and sex alway complicates things with friends....

...hottest guy in our group got drunk recently and while we we at a club he kind of followed me in a stall and pushed me up and leaned in at my ear and told me how sexy I was and made sure he brushed his crotch up against me so I know he was turned on....Can't lie it was hot but I kind of told him he was drunk and horny....You would never think that about him as many women as he gets...

My experience has been that there are a lot less "straight" lads than we would be led to believe. Watch any group of drunk lads and notice how touchy and uninhibited they get around one another. I have slept with quite a few "str8" lads when drunk and they are often the most voracious cock-suckers. I have also found that men in general are penis obsessed (thus LPSG) and so most "str8" lads gladly drop to their knees when they see a big one. My mate says the only difference between str8 and gay is about 6 pints, and my experience would make me believe there is a lot of truth in it.

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There is not a general line a straight guy should not pass. Each of us knows how far he is comfortable to go: the only important thing is to think in advance the consequences of any action.

In my case i've never had interest in getting any sexual contact with another guy, such as touching him (privates, or even chest or shoulders, if intended in sexual/romantic way) or more.

I also think your friends, Pene Negro Grande, are trying to know wether you are bi, maybe some of them want to have their way with you.

In any event it is not a shame being be or having bi fantasies.
 

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Yeah I hate labels too....I am pretty comfortable with my sexuality....Yeah I think they are trying to feel me out too but I like folks to make the first move and state their intentions so there is no confusion later....Actually going out of town with the fellas on holiday in a couple of weeks....Who knows maybe when we are out of our city - inhabitations will be lower and they might feel more rowdy w/o their girls around....I know I plan on it....
 

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Proudly_Italian said:
I also think your friends, Pene Negro Grande, are trying to know wether you are bi, maybe some of them want to have their way with you.

In any event it is not a shame being be or having bi fantasies.

I agree with you....Yeah they are a bunch of sexual guys and I do think they trust me and like to make comments or undress in front of me to get a rise out of my....Haven't bit yet though....
 

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mnrocky said:
That he's bisexual and wants permission to bone his friends?
Str8 guys don't often sleep in the same bed after the age of 10, sorry....

Thats not true. Situations such as sharing hotel rooms, where u spend more money on beer and clubbin then getting that extra room is usually chosen over more sleeping space. And living quarters say during family reunions/holidays, beds are shared. And I know I'm not the only one, have buds who done the same. If you comfortable with your sexuality, then theres no problem. Plus whats their to worry about. Morning wood is common for every dude. Its usually more odd to share a bed with your sis then your bro or male cuz, or best friend.
 

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Pene_Negro_Grande said:
Okay just wanted to know when do you consider a straight guy going to far with another straight guy....I consider myself mostly straight and have a lot of straight guy friends who I hang out with every week alot....Most of these guys are considered pretty hot....My thing is until probably the last 4 years or 5 years- I really didn't hang out with a lot of guys....I guess I was pretty busy with my career and had regular girlfriends....But when I realize that I was not the relationship type, I started hanging out more and met some the best guys in the world....I know we are really close but sometimes I feel like I am getting hit on by them....For some strange reason I think I give off a bi vibe and I get comments from straight guys that they think I look pretty hot which I think of just a guy compliementing on the way I dress....But lately when we are out and the boys get a little drunk - the comments get a little more sexual (like wanting to see my package), grabbing my crotch or grabbing my arse, kissing my on the neck, cheek and forehead....I probably never act on it because I value friendship more and sex alway complicates things with friends....

But I can't lie sometimes it turns me on and I have to leave the situation....I mean one of my friends who is probably the hottest guy in our group got drunk recently and while we we at a club he kind of followed me in a stall and pushed me up and leaned in at my ear and told me how sexy I was and made sure he brushed his crotch up against me so I know he was turned on....Can't lie it was hot but I kind of told him he was drunk and horny....You would never think that about him as many women as he gets....But lately I can tell he is getting curious about a male....I mean sometimes it can't be helped like when we have shared a girl at the same time....What is it with guys that hook up w/a lot of girls - those are the ones who hit on me....Funny thing is I rarely get approached by gay guys....

But recently a bunch us went on a beach trip together and we all stayed at a beach house together and it is very common for us to sleep in the same bed and never think about it....I awoke to one of the guys who I consider very straight grabbing me between my legs in my sleep....At first I thought it was a dream but when felt myself getting a little aroused I kind of jumped up and he just rolled over like he was doing it in his sleep....Never mentioned anything about it afterwards....But it does make my kind of think that more straight guys are curious about hooking up with other guys....Funny thing is that until a recent one night stand ( I rarely drink and one night I broke my drinking rule), I haven't hooked up with a guy in almost 3 years....Luckily it was a casual acquintance and the weird thing is he asked my to have sex with his girlfriend while he watched as part of his birthday fantasy from her but soon found out he wanted some alone time with me....Feel bad because his girlfriend kind of told me that she knew he would try to get me alone and I was like it aint going to happen and he never gave me that indication (I mean I always knew him to have girlfriends)....2 weeks later I got a little drunk with him and his true intentions came out (literally)....Now I just avoid him because not really my style even though his girl knows about his bi-sexual encounters....

Well, if you don't when straight guys are going too far...:rolleyes:

I think that straight guys go too far when...
1. if they are doing anything that is abusive and/or harrassing to you.

If you feel you've been abused and/or harrassed, then YES--they've gone too far. Only you can decide that. Or you can further clarify a person's intentions by mining for answers with more questions. Frank discussions. Get more information.

Thanks for the erotic reaccounting!!! :smile:
 

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I think this is a really interesting thread cause I find myself on the other side of it. I'm str8, but I feel very close to some of my male friends. I guess I feel that the only time I can express it is when I've had a few drinks--or maybe I feel that the only time my buddies will be receptive to me expressing my feelings is when they've had a few drinks. I dunno. Anyway, when we're a little high we'll have our arms around each other and I know I'm counscious of deliberately patting my buddy's chest or slapping his abs or leg. I know I've never slapped or grabbed any dude's ass or crotch. The closeness is a turn on, but I don't think I'd initiate anything more than maybe jackin off together--which I think would be hot.

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PacknThick said:
Thats not true. Situations such as sharing hotel rooms, where u spend more money on beer and clubbin then getting that extra room is usually chosen over more sleeping space. And living quarters say during family reunions/holidays, beds are shared. And I know I'm not the only one, have buds who done the same. If you comfortable with your sexuality, then theres no problem. Plus whats their to worry about. Morning wood is common for every dude. Its usually more odd to share a bed with your sis then your bro or male cuz, or best friend.

Totally agree with you on here....We do it all the time when we go out of town because we like to party all night....It is not a sexual thing at all....We do it to cut down on the cost....
 

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bareamigo said:
I think this is a really interesting thread cause I find myself on the other side of it. I'm str8, but I feel very close to some of my male friends. I guess I feel that the only time I can express it is when I've had a few drinks--or maybe I feel that the only time my buddies will be receptive to me expressing my feelings is when they've had a few drinks. I dunno. Anyway, when we're a little high we'll have our arms around each other and I know I'm counscious of deliberately patting my buddy's chest or slapping his abs or leg. I know I've never slapped or grabbed any dude's ass or crotch. The closeness is a turn on, but I don't think I'd initiate anything more than maybe jackin off together--which I think would be hot.

Gabe

That is how it starts....More common then I thought....I guess I am not just use to it....My family was not the most affectionate....It is definitely kind of cool....
 

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This seems normal with friends I have grown up with. Some friends more than others. It really seems to depend on how much friends trust you. My best friend often has his arm around my neck and has kissed my neck from behind when out drinking. One of my pals I go to games with stayed over after having to many drinks. I woke up with him wanking himself off next to me. I joined in and the next morning we joked about it. My experience is that the closer and trusting your friends are, the more likely you experience something like this. Maybe we attract this too and maybe that is why some of us have these experiences. There are some friends for what ever reason I really like and trust and can do more with and have. We have bonded in ways that have kept us friends that keeps us friends today. It it not a big deal unless it is hurting someone else in some way.

bareamigo said:
I think this is a really interesting thread cause I find myself on the other side of it. I'm str8, but I feel very close to some of my male friends. I guess I feel that the only time I can express it is when I've had a few drinks--or maybe I feel that the only time my buddies will be receptive to me expressing my feelings is when they've had a few drinks. I dunno. Anyway, when we're a little high we'll have our arms around each other and I know I'm counscious of deliberately patting my buddy's chest or slapping his abs or leg. I know I've never slapped or grabbed any dude's ass or crotch. The closeness is a turn on, but I don't think I'd initiate anything more than maybe jackin off together--which I think would be hot.

Gabe
 

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I think when me and my str8-ass buds strip down to our underpants in that new Hanes commercial and play b-ball, that's probably going too far. :smile: Like who the fuck does this?

There was a guy I used to play *ball with [See end of post.], who was unusually huggy, in my opinion. He'd finish showering and walk right up to me buck-naked and hug me. Didn't matter if I was dressed early and leaving or naked under a showerhead - walks right up to me stark naked and goes, "Good game, man!" Sometimes, he'd rush up behind me, as I was leaving the lockerroom, and hug me and kind of hang on to confirm date/time of our next game. Very weird feeling.

I thought it was a little off, but what made it impossible to call him on was that he was just huggy anyway and hugged everybody he knew, in and outside of the lockerroom.

I also played with two *Euro students, who liked to shock me with gay scenarios in the lockerroom, like, "Hey, I've got a new job!!", and damn if he didn't put his thing in the guy's mouth! :eek: Or one of them would moon me and go "Look at this ring, man! When my girlfriend talks about marriage, I'll show her this ring!" Strange pair, but, at least with them, I don't think it was anything more than horsing around.

I also have an uncle, who says he and his marine buddies used to play volleyball naked, but only in the pool - NEVER anywhere else (like that idiotic Hanes commercial).

I think some of us get caught up in a moment and do stupid stuff.

Maybe it's a turn-on for some of us or just an excuse to touch another human being, which is a natural, human instinct that men are discouraged from indulging.

*To preserve my anonymity here and the privacy of friends, I must respectfully decline naming the sport I played or country my friends are from. Sorry. :rolleyes:
 

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Where's The Drewbert when you need him?
The Drewbert Scale goes like this (loosely interpreted):

Heterosexual-exclusively attracted to and having sex with the opposite sex
Heteroflexible-mostly hetero, 1 or more occurrences of homo activity
Bisexual-sexually active with both men and women
Homoflexible-mostly homo, 1 or more occurrences of hetero activity
Homosexual-total fag

I'm Homoflexible and a Kinsey 4.
 

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If you feel like it something you would be comfortable with then go for it. I would however caution you on doing it with friends. History tells us that this is a bad scenario and can end up ruining a friendship.

Good luck man!