Where are all the baseball purists now?

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  1. Skull Mason

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    Roger Clemens claiming he was injected with VITAMIN b-12??? That is like injecting yourself with a multivitamin. It is borderline hilarious and he is making an ass out of himself. I know there were a lot of Bonds haters on here claiming he disrespected the game and yadda yadda so what about your boy roger now?
     
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    Aren't these the same fans who swore they'd never watch pro baseball again after the strike?
     
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    Watch Clemens squirm the more the spotlight focuses on him.
     
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    Im a baseball fan but, anyone who cheats is a cheater, no matter what!
     
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    You think he would have learned by watching Big Mac and Raffy make fools of themselves and all the flak that Bonds has gotten. But he went right for the b-12 bit, didn't tejada and raffy use that lame ass excuse as well?
     
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    Of course he's lieing! :mad: Unfortunately, if they took everyone out of Cooperstown who has used steroids, the halls would echo.
     
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    Im not sure if they used that excuse or not but, its a dead give away, if these dudes would get fire then MAYBE it would stop. I have no respect for a cheater but, It wont stop me from watching the game. Being into lifting myself, Id never poisin my body that way!
     
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    Clemens is unspeakably arrogant and deserves to be pulled down.

    All his years with the Red Sox didn't amount to a hill of beans.
     
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    I love baseball and will never stop watching the game.
    I really do not care if they all used steroids, greenies, cocaine, weed, beat up their wives, etc., I watch them play, that's it. What they do in their personal lives or with their bodies is their business, and if compromising their health for a perceived advantage seems ok, whatever.

    As others have noted, steroids do not create talent. You may recover quicker, add a few lbs of muscle, shrink your penis... but it will never make them Sandy Koufax or Ted Williams, or even give them natural athletic ability like Barry Bonds had. One day they will realize that, hopefully that realization occurs before they permanently fuck up their health... but I won't stop watching the game.
     
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    Its not in their personal lives its on the field where kids can see it.
     
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    For the record I have said here many times that you will never rid the sport of performance enhancing drugs so if you can't beat them join em, but I got a lot of flak here for that. Especially defending Barry Bonds. I said even the pitchers he was hitting home runs off of were doing it but people don't want to listen and just want to rip barry.

    I could care less it makes the game more exciting anyway, but I was just wondering why Clemens hasn't been met with the same criticism that Bonds got.
     
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    It is their personal life. Their bodies, their choice to do with them as they see fit. Imo, parents should be their kids role models. Or at the very least inform the children that no perfect person exists in this world and the children should make choices to their benefit. This extends to not doing 'roids because Big Mac looked cool hitting homers, nor do acid because psychedelic music touts it as being mind expanding, nor go to a club and feel a need to try E, nor smoke because someone blew a cool smoke ring.

    Baseball is just one more thing everyone will have to demystify and bring the humans who play it back into the realm of fallible creatures... where we all reside.
     
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    I'm not sure he derserves to be pulled down because of his arrogance alone but he does deserve the proper punishment if it is proven he cheated by taking steroids. He's obviously full of shit and lying through he teeth. All of his Cy Young awards should be removed for the years it can be proven that he took performance enhancing drugs.

    That being said, I agree with you Bbucko. It gives me great pleasure to watch him squirm. I truly can't stand him. He's probably one of the biggest assholes to play the game since Ty Cobb, IMO (I'm sure there are plenty of others...but I'm tired). Remember when he threw the split end of a bat at Piazza when half way to first and he claimed he thought it was the ball! What a douchebag.

    I also find it interesting that he and Bonds are both amazing athletes for their ages and are/were still able to compete at such a high level...they both have super egos and are both at the forefront of this whole thing. I've heard of "roid-rage" but wonder if being an asshole all the time has something to do with taking steroids?! Ty Cobb was just a mean SOB but at least watching the game of baseball back then was watching atheletes who competed with the talent/drive they were born with.

    Just my .02...

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    Because Bonds is an extreme asshole. Mean, to fans, reporters, and teammates a like. Every one wanted to see him taken down a notch, and really, they still haven't had true satisfaction yet because he isn't humbled and still doesn't give a fuck.

    Clemens is just your garden variety, blustery sports ahole. Plus, he has a bit of charisma.
     
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    I wish I could believe that was the case but I do not see much difference between Bonds and Clemens except for skin color. I mean people had serious ANIMOSITY towards Bonds, he isn't that much more of an asshole than Clemens, if at all...
     
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    Speaking as a Black Woman and Bay Area native, no one likes Bonds. He is an ass. I'm not saying race has nothing to do with it, but hey, even Hank was like 'Fuck Bonds' with his actions.
     
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    I couldn't agree more Skull. I think/hope the animosity towards Bonds was because he was one of the first major stars to be caught up in the scandal and is not a fan favorite to begin with (unlike Big Mac). I just hope now that Clemens is there, he will receive the same negative sentiments Barry did.
     
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    Unfortunately, he won't...
     
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    Well, here's to hoping...

    Cheers,
    BD
     
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    Likewise...
     
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