Where do you fall on the Political Compass?

[GottaBigOne]

Amen mindseye.

I'm smack dab in the middle, and slightly down on the libertarian side, which I always thought anyway.

 

[steve319]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Interesting. The scores are more radical than I'd have anticipated. Wonder which "strongly agree/disagree" selections put me so far afield?

And yeah, there was a bit of the "Don't Do What Donny Don't Does" thing happening there, huh? :huh:

I can't help but roll my eyes a tiny bit whenever I see these sorts of things applied to historical figures. Smacks of oversimplification for me. I mean, I understand that to a degree, but can we really insist that Socrates had the same INTP personality type as I do?

These are great fun, though!

 

[jay_too]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21

 

[BobLeeSwagger]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

That first pic on the results page made me think it was calling me slightly authoritarian for a moment there. I was like, WTF?!

 

[KinkGuy]

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77

Big surprise huh?

Gee, I make Madame Zora and Gandhi look conservative.

 

[13788]

carolinacurious:

Originally posted by mindseye+May 17 2005, 06:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mindseye &#064; May 17 2005, 06:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Eh, I mapped just a hair&#39;s breadth south of the Dalai Lama myself, but the test itself was poorly formed:

• Some of the question stems involved double-negation already. Example: "I would not wish to send my child to a school that did not instill religious values." I marked "strongly disagree", but thinking about what that means made my head hurt a little.
  
  
  
• Some of the question stems were leading. Example: "Taxpayers should not be expected to prop up any theatres or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis." The phrase &#39;prop up&#39; biases this stem because it suggests a state of disrepair and instability that may not exist. Are we "propping up" the Smithsonian or the Library of Congress?
  
  
  
• Some of the question stems force a false choice. Example: "Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers." Suppose that I believed this to be true of both fathers and mothers? Do I agree or disagree with the statement?
  
  
  

In short, I&#39;m glad to see the kinds of discussion these tests are prompting, but I think the results are suspect. Which is good, because otherwise I&#39;d weep to see where some of you are falling. :unsure:

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First off, I didn&#39;t write the test and I don&#39;t want to be a big apoligist for it but haven taken a fair number of these "better" tests I do have a couple of opinions (about this one and about your comments). I also want to say that these three questions threw up warning signs for me while taking it as well.

The "double-negative": In this one I think the double negative is necessary to get the proper meaning; however, it does increase the chance that someone may answer incorrectly.

"Prop-up": I&#39;m not sure I follow, If the Smithsonian is succeeding on a commercial basis then it is not a part of the question. I guess I see the connotative bias in "prop-up" but I don&#39;t believe this question is misleading.

"Mothers/Fathers/careers...and the Group W bench": Yeah this was a tricky one. If you believe it to be true for both fathers and mothers then you agree with the statement.

Like I said before, the test isn&#39;t perfect, but I do think if these tests are designed well then how you interpret the question is part of the test as well. Another thing you see in the better tests is simply more questions, The better Myers Briggs tests have 200 and I think I&#39;ve even heard of a 500 question version, this should rule out a score getting crazily skewed over misundertanding a question or two.


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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

Interesting. The scores are more radical than I&#39;d have anticipated. Wonder which "strongly agree/disagree" selections put me so far afield?

And yeah, there was a bit of the "Don&#39;t Do What Donny Don&#39;t Does" thing happening there, huh? :huh:

I can&#39;t help but roll my eyes a tiny bit whenever I see these sorts of things applied to historical figures. Smacks of oversimplification for me. I mean, I understand that to a degree, but can we really insist that Socrates had the same INTP personality type as I do?

These are great fun, though&#33;

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I think they like to apply it to historical figures because that is what people want to see, it also doesn&#39;t do much good to show people where they fall on a graph without being able to match it up with some ideology. I do think trying to match historical figures actual private thoughts up (rather than their public actions) to this sort of test is inherently less accurate than trying to do a historic Myers Briggs on someone.

I suppose you know that the roots of the Myers Briggs go back MUCH further than the Myers Briggs test. I have no idea if Socrates was considered a phelgmatic (or whatever corresponded to the "NT" type), but I would say that it is actually a pretty safe bet that Socrates WAS an INTP.

I&#39;m one as well, although the older I get the more the "F" starts to come into play.

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Another note to all on the test in general, we&#39;re seeing an awful lot of scores in the lower left hand quadrant and a few in the upper right hand quadrant with a very few in the other quadrants. The predominance of scores in the lower left might lead some to question the validity of the test. (And, hey, question the validity of the test, all authority should be questioned anyway, right?) I would like to say that while it has been my experience that most people score in these two quadrants on the other website I played around with this test on, almost everyone scored in the upper right quadrant. The clustered scores here may say more about US than the test.

 

[mindseye]

Originally posted by carolinacurious@May 18 2005, 12:14 AM
First off, I didn&#39;t write the test and I don&#39;t want to be a big apoligist for it but haven taken a fair number of these "better" tests I do have a couple of opinions (about this one and about your comments). I also want to say that these three questions threw up warning signs for me while taking it as well.

I hope I didn&#39;t imply that you were the source for the test; if so, I apologize.

I would like to say that while it has been my experience that most people score in these two quadrants on the other website I played around with this test on, almost everyone scored in the upper right quadrant. The clustered scores here may say more about US than the test.

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It probably does. I think it&#39;s a reasonable conjecture that people who are willing to post, and not just lurk, on an adult website will score more socially liberal than the population as a whole. Adding to this the fact that there&#39;s an apparent correlation between scoring "west" and scoring "south" (as shown by the relatively smaller number of people who place in the upper-left or lower-right quadrants), it&#39;s not surprising that we have more southwesties.

 

[13788]

carolinacurious: One more quick thing. I think the MOST valuable thing this test may offer is showing politics in a way other than simple "left/right". It&#39;s certainly not the first thing to do so, but it&#39;s an important concept and it has surprised me in the past to see for how many people it&#39;s a new idea. I had a great eigth grade teacher who explained it as a circle rather than a line, which worked pretty well; I like the quadrant system they use here very much --- now fold the quadrant back around into a ball, anyone find that interesting?

You essentially get "normal" at one pole, and "crazy as fuck" at the other, with most people somewhere in between.

 

[13788]

carolinacurious:

I hope I didn&#39;t imply that you were the source for the test; if so, I apologize.

No, no. No apologies necessary. It&#39;s just after my long introduction of the test and then my defense of the test I wanted to make it clear that I have no vested interest in it. I do like it though and I guess I am willing to defend it, mainly for the reasons given in post #28.

 

[Dr Rock]

calm down folks. don&#39;t be forgetting that politics is just mental masturbation for weirdos anyway. the test is fun and all, but don&#39;t start taking it SERIOUSLY.

 

[steve319]

Originally posted by carolinacurious@May 18 2005, 01:14 AM
I have no idea if Socrates was considered a phelgmatic (or whatever corresponded to the "NT" type), but I would say that it is actually a pretty safe bet that Socrates WAS an INTP.

That&#39;s interesting&#33; Based on historical record of his behavior? (From so long ago...having left no writings of his own...known to us only through Plato....)

I selected a poor example, but you know what I was trying to say about the tendency to "stretch" in order to set up that sort of comparison.

Sure, Albert Einstein could very well be diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome if he were around today, and making that comparison might make a newly-diagnosed person feel better about it all, but it smacks of oversimplification to me.

You&#39;re not going to believe the timeliness of this, but I attended a session today where the presenter distributed a list of "notable" people with learning disabilities that included Moses as having verbal apraxia&#33;

Well intended, sure, but come on now&#33; That&#39;s what I was trying (badly) to say.

At any rate, I enjoyed this fun little quiz and have already passed it along to some buddies. I have a weak spot for this sort of thing, anyway&#33;

 

[DC_DEEP]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15

Interesting, in the graph a little farther down on the page, it seems that the Dalai Lama had about the same score as me - central lower left quadrant. I still maintain that I am mostly fiscally conservative, socially very liberal, and politically suspicious, tending toward libertarian, but not anarchist. Interesting test, although a few of the questions I was truly completely neutral, but that was not an answer option.

 

[Altairion]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.74

 

[naughty]

Your political compass

Economic left/right: -4.00

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

I suppose I must have the lite version.... LOL&#33;
But Nelson Mandela, The Dalai Lama, and Mahatma Gandhi are a wonderful group in which to be included .

Naughty

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

As a point, the reason why most people are in the bottom left, is because if you were "that" evil, you wouldn&#39;t be on this board. We tend to boot out the intolerant fairly fast.

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by ORCABOMBER@May 19 2005, 07:31 PM
We tend to boot out the intolerant fairly fast.

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I dunno - I don&#39;t consider myself a very tolerant person. I&#39;d cheerfully march every bigot, politician and wilful idiot on the planet into a gas chamber given half a chance; I have no tolerance for morons whatsoever. OH IT&#39;S ALL SO PARADOXICAL AND IRONIC yeah shut up and pass me the cyanide canister

 

[Sabln7]

Economic left/right -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -4.51

See why so many of us on this board can&#39;t tolerate George W. Bush?

 

[Altairion]

Originally posted by Dr Rock+May 19 2005, 03:03 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; May 19 2005, 03:03 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ORCABOMBER@May 19 2005, 07:31 PM
We tend to boot out the intolerant fairly fast.

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I dunno - I don&#39;t consider myself a very tolerant person. I&#39;d cheerfully march every bigot, politician and wilful idiot on the planet into a gas chamber given half a chance; I have no tolerance for morons whatsoever. OH IT&#39;S ALL SO PARADOXICAL AND IRONIC yeah shut up and pass me the cyanide canister

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I doubt we need a gas chamber for the serious extremists out there....just a small deserted island that they can&#39;t escape from. Some of us don&#39;t get much of a thrill from letting people like that die so easily

 

[Freddie53]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

I scored almost the same as the Dalai Lama&#33;

Nixxy, you should be proud of me&#33;

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by Altairion@May 20 2005, 02:07 AM
I doubt we need a gas chamber for the serious extremists out there....just a small deserted island that they can&#39;t escape from. Some of us don&#39;t get much of a thrill from letting people like that die so easily

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I didn&#39;t say I&#39;d put GAS in the chamber. I was thinking more along the lines of starving rats or peruvian centipedes