Where is Putin?

[b.c.]

When I spoke of the attention a U.S. wholesale doping scandal would have gotten, I was speaking of attention it would have gotten HERE.

Allegations and claims? Doubtful the IAAF would have voted to suspend Russia on just allegations and claims, and Russia has hardly had the book thrown at them, considering all they need do to compete in 2016 is comply with recommendations to clean up their act.

This has nothing to do with attacking Russia and everything to do with fairness to other competitors who may have been cheated out of their rightful place in standings.

Obama has been horrible on the freedom of journalists? Journalists have been murdered? Not by Obama, I hope.

 

[rbkwp]

Obama has been horrible on the freedom of journalists? Journalists have been murdered? Not by Obama, I hope.

i thought that was Egypts Sisi? ha

who has a murderous nate lock up forever j
kill attitude to journalists
but you would certainkly know the inside domestic politics insied out
we here get very little news re US politics, thank God or someone
it is news to me that Journalists are killed in the US as well Tri
do you mean on the battlefields overseas?

anway clear treatise n your views re Putin
to me hes doing a fine jobe for his country, more so now,, than nis needing to convince the populace he is a nice guy?
just a Russian version of Obama at the end of the day?
Obama i loved prior to his 1st term, and up to 1/2 way thru it
like Putin i geuss theyre the best of the unch, and have to see out there destiny so to speak
not much we mere mortals can do about that except praise and hate them huh ha

personally think the Russians will work a deal withthe Athletics etc, minor thing now. compared to all thats happening currently
same ole, a brief directive from Putin for them all to behave ha, and they will be in Rio with there balls jangling ..
Putin will be the one who has the say of course, not his lapdogs
ie sport minister whatever ..

 

[rbkwp]

of course the sdhit house would never acknowledge theres any form of cooperation happening between the two ..
love fest is good'

SIS brings Putin, Obama together
ISIS brings Putin, Obama together - Putin's Ambitions for the War Against ISIS - How Putin Has Turned the Paris Attacks to His Advantage - Slate Magazine

7 photos: Tense moments between Obama and Putin

And the White House noted the importance of Russia's military efforts in Syria, efforts Obama's aides previously condemned as benefitting only Assad's dictatorship.

Putin Goes From G-20 Pariah to Player at Obama Turkey Talk

The sidelines of summits are full of talks between leaders, their ministers and aides, but the huddle between Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin at the Group of 20 in Turkey on Sunday was heavy with significance.

The meeting on Syria lasting more than 30 minutes was the first since the Russian president surprised his American counterpart in September by sending in his warplanes to prop up Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian leader the U.S. wants deposed. Since then, terrorism by Islamic State, also known as ISIS, ISIL or Da’esh, has taken over the global agenda and provided common purpose.

www.bloomberg.com: Putin Goes From G-20 Pariah to Player at Obama Turkey Talk

 

[rbkwp]

lying bastards the Turks\
even if i did jnot like Russia, i would still rather believe there version of events ..

an APOLOGY and reimbursment expected
dont hide behind NATO you dsamn shady devil
appears an obvious you Fd up badly ..

Moscow disputes Turkey's narrative on jet downing

Published on Nov 25, 2015
Turkey has released an audio tape to try to prove it did give a warning before shooting down a Russian fighter jet, but the navigator who survived the attack says no such warning was given.Moscow is considering retaliation by restricting trade with Turkey - and has sent anti-aircraft missiles to its forces in Syria.reports from Moscow.

 

[vince]

Russians and Americans and their various front men and stooges can all piss off and go home.

The Turks did the right thing. Enough with the air space violations and the provocative moves and the lies calling every opponent of the Putin/Assad clique "Terrorists". ISIS isn't anywhere near the Turkman areas you've been bombing. You did it enough times and were warned repeatedly and didn't think anyone would have the balls to shoot you out of their skies. Tough luck.. Turkey isn't the Ukraine.

Turkey will be hurt by losing it's markets in Russia and the tourism trade. Turks have been put through far worse by better people in the past and still survived. Nobody likes a Russian tourist anyways.

It's f...ing stupid to believe the lies of Putin, Obama, Erdoğan, Assad, al-Baghdadi, Hollande or anyone of the dozen or so fascists currently putting their noses into this mess. You partisan armchair warriors, strategists and cheerleaders are all nuts if you think any of the factions are the "good guys". Keep on reading the NYTimes and Global Research dot ca. lol

Where is Putin? Going down the drain it looks like, unless his masters Beijing decide to save his neck. The oligopoly that runs things in Russia is getting nervous and just might pull plug. In the past two years, he's lost the Ukraine, put their economy in the toilet and made enemies of all their best customers and suppliers.

Upside is that all those new apartments the Russians bought in Antalya are going be available at rock bottom prices. They are already real cheap because the people that bought them have lost all their savings due to the fact that VPutin has turned the ruble into a junk currency and they can't even afford to go on a holiday to an inexpensive destination like Antalya, Turkey.

The sooner we see the backside of that old KGB thief, the better.

 

[rbkwp]

Frog Bear meet
if theres a reasonable solution, cool
wasent thought likekly several months ago, so an imporvement i geuss
and the Fr president and Merkel have dialouged with Putin over an earlier matter, so could be fruitful
heres hoping !

expect hes likely to go back to his NATO buddies with Vlads expectations ..



'like' vince
even if unrealistic
you/.we know theres a WW determination for all to kill each other, whatever it takes
do like some points though
and good to see someone else express an opinion, other than the one track minds of others

am always incredulous that some can only think of Euro or gun control ha ..

esp like this actually ha/US incorporates the world unfortunately duh'

Russians and Americans and their various front men and stooges can all piss off and go home.

 

[vince]

How does a guy who never had anything but a civil service job, never worked in the private sector, wind up being wealthy? Some say extremely wealthy, as in 200 billion, but that could well be BS. But he is rich. How come?

 

[185248]

All those topless photo shoots vince, pulled in the big bucks, sorry rubles. Giddyup...comrades.

 

[b.c.]

Russians and Americans and their various front men and stooges can all piss off and go home.

The Turks did the right thing. Enough with the air space violations and the provocative moves and the lies calling every opponent of the Putin/Assad clique "Terrorists". ISIS isn't anywhere near the Turkman areas you've been bombing. You did it enough times and were warned repeatedly and didn't think anyone would have the balls to shoot you out of their skies. Tough luck.. Turkey isn't the Ukraine.

Turkey will be hurt by losing it's markets in Russia and the tourism trade. Turks have been put through far worse by better people in the past and still survived. Nobody likes a Russian tourist anyways.

It's f...ing stupid to believe the lies of Putin, Obama, Erdoğan, Assad, al-Baghdadi, Hollande or anyone of the dozen or so fascists currently putting their noses into this mess. You partisan armchair warriors, strategists and cheerleaders are all nuts if you think any of the factions are the "good guys". Keep on reading the NYTimes and Global Research dot ca. lol

Where is Putin? Going down the drain it looks like, unless his masters Beijing decide to save his neck. The oligopoly that runs things in Russia is getting nervous and just might pull plug. In the past two years, he's lost the Ukraine, put their economy in the toilet and made enemies of all their best customers and suppliers.

Upside is that all those new apartments the Russians bought in Antalya are going be available at rock bottom prices. They are already real cheap because the people that bought them have lost all their savings due to the fact that VPutin has turned the ruble into a junk currency and they can't even afford to go on a holiday to an inexpensive destination like Antalya, Turkey.

The sooner we see the backside of that old KGB thief, the better.

At last an "equal opportunity" critic, and refreshingly so.

Someone recently wondered (in another thread) why this was aligned with that, or in opposition to another...

Truth is, the question as to alliances, enemies, and all the rest can be pretty much whittled down to several categories: national interests, strategies, money, oil, control and power, and last but CERTAINLY not least, who you've managed to PISS OFF (or not) LATELY.

(#strange bedfellows, #the enemy of my enemy... and so on)

As I've stated before, to try to vilify SOME players in this QUAGMIRE while absolving the rest is, imo, disingenuous at BEST.

 

[vince]

All those topless photo shoots vince, pulled in the big bucks, sorry rubles. Giddyup...comrades.

Thanks but no. Gynecomastia is a turn off.

ps. I thought the HORSE was supposed to wear the blinders. Weird.

 

[vince]

Now he's threatening to stop selling agricultural products to Turkey. Their biggest customer for wheat, corn and sunflower oil. What a genius. He banned European imports of food stuffs last year and Turkey took up the slack in the market (20% of it) for fresh fruits and veggies. Now he's threatening to boycott Turkish food stuffs. I hope the cabbage crop was good this year.

 

[185248]

Careful vince, if you note those thumbs in the pic are poised and practiced for pushing the button

 

[185248]

Now he's threatening to stop selling agricultural products to Turkey. Their biggest customer for wheat, corn and sunflower oil. What a genius. He banned European imports of food stuffs last year and Turkey took up the slack in the market (20% of it) for fresh fruits and veggies. Now he's threatening to boycott Turkish food stuffs. I hope the cabbage crop was good this year.

Seems he is upset about losing a beat up fighter worth about 5-10 mill on the used fighter market. Anyway, the guys in control behind the scenes pulled his wave the arms in the air, 'Putin tough guy strings'.

 

[rbkwp]

But he is rich. How come?



But he is rich. How come?

Mikhail Khodorkovsky
comes to mind
maybe ne got his billions of this guy duh ha
never did like how Putin treated this guy/twice ..


www.reuters.com: Khodorkovsky says Putin is leading Russia towards stagnation, collapse

 

[rbkwp]

maybe we need an x CIA chief, to become a next USA president
any takers, see how he handles his beloved country
will the populace willingly vote such a person in, im reckoning yes, quite likely
he would be handling the gun control biz by default, shirley
imagine a citizen like that, compared to a former shit talking reality show has been ..
i suppose the intellectual politicos will ridicle me for posting media VICE links now haha
smile my life away!

RUSSIA

'Right Now They're Measuring Dicks, and That's Very Dangerous': The Putin vs. Erdogan Strongman Contest

November 28, 2015 | 12:06 am
The diplomatic crisis over Turkey's downing of a Russian jet is looking increasingly like a battle of wills between Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan, two leaders known for their machismo and revanchist politics. Their similar leadership style once brought them closer together, but now it's exacerbating the standoff, since neither can allow himself be seen to back down.

'Right Now They're Measuring Dicks, and That's Very Dangerous': The Putin vs. Erdogan Strongman Contest | VICE News

 

[Boobalaa]

We've already had one ..George H.W. Bush. (Bush41); 41st POTUS
He was Director of the CIA for 357 days from 1/30/76 to 1/20/77, under Presidents Ford and Carter. Ford brought him in as CIA Director, after former CIA director William Colby (1971-76) was let go.
"Abusto Energy" which was formed by Bush in 1977, was rumored to be a front for the CIA, which used the drilling platforms as monitoring stations on Cuba.
But probably the most intriguingly prescient aspect of this episode was the early business relationship between Bush and the bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia. One of the early investors in Arbusto was Houston businessman, James Bath. Bath and Bush became acquainted when both men were serving as reserve pilots in the Texas Air Guard in the early 1970s.
According to journalist Craig Unger, Bath invested $50,000 in Arbusto. At the time of the investment, Bath was a representative for Saudi businessman, Salem bin Laden, oldest son of Mohammed bin Laden; founder of the Binladen Group, the largest construction company in Saudi Arabia. Bath's business partner Charles White later became involved in a legal dispute with Bath, during which he claimed that Bath had actually invested in the company on behalf of bin Laden and other Saudi businessmen, and the total was more like a million dollars instead of the reported $50,000. Both Bush and Bath deny the allegations. No proof has been found to substantiate Unger's claim.

 

[rbkwp]

thanks for that again Boobs
so much we never know of or to learn huh?
devlish bastards?
makes one wonder of the mentality and what triggers it all?

fn wanker still stirring
only because he thinks he has the backing of his NATO/Eu members, gutless shit
no mind nor brain of its own
even Frances Hollande has more credibility than this one ..

Turkish president warns Russia not to 'play with fire'

Turkish president Tayyip Erdogan says he wants to meet Vladimir Putin "face to face" to ease tensions between the two nations over the downing of a Russian jet early this week.

 

[rbkwp]

wanker 'terrorism' by Turkish President Recep Tayyip
await and suffer the consequences
Russias learnt from the west how to apply sanctions, economic or otherwise
bet the shithead Turk PM is/would be piossed off probabnly not knowing what Hollande spoke to Putin about
whining, 'he did not return my call'
well F you, blow our plane out of the sky for no real reason, who the hell would bother talking to youafter you notify the US probably, but certainly your NATO allies, immeadiately after, and not Russia .. Fn idiot!!!

Ankara-Moscow tensions high after downing of Russia jet

Published on Nov 27, 2015
Russia is applying more pressure on Turkey following the shooting down of its fighter jet. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says there are questions over Turkey's commitment to fight what he called 'terrorism' in Syria. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned Moscow not to play with fire.

 

[Jason]

...blow our plane out of the sky for no real reason...

Curiously the media has had little to say on Turkey's reason. The infringement (assuming there was one) was about 17 seconds of over-fly over a rock valley where goats graze, and it would have been very easy for Turkey to ignore it.

* Western media has said almost nothing about Turkey's reason.
* Russian media has said that Turkey supports terrorism. This is a sound-bite.

The real reason has to be the way the borders were drawn when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. In the area where the plane crashed the majority population are Turkomen. Basically they are Turks. In terms of language and culture they have far more in common with Turkey than Arab Syria. They are also opposed to Assad. These are the people that Russia has been bombing. It is to oppose this bombing and support their "brothers" that Turkey has shot down a Russian plane.

The West is very vague about the look of Syria after ISIS and Assad are removed. Of course it is a matter for the Syrian people, but if the West are part of the solution then they will be proposing ideas. One is a federal Syria. It seems very hard to see how the Syrian Kurds would ever accept centralised government. For that matter neither will the Turkomen. We're looking perhaps at semi-autonomous regions for both. A Turkomen region is likely to work closely with Turkey. And the real rub is that it contains both the air-base and the naval-base that are being used by Russia.

 

[rbkwp]

interpretation

another movel like that Turkey, and your FUCKED
NATO/USA or not, whoever, dont try the same thing twice ..
Turks are thick as shit, digging a hole for themselves ..

Turkey downed Russian fighter jet to defend IS oil supplies: Putin

Turkey's decision to down a Russian fighter jet on the Syrian border was dictated by a desire to defend Islamic State oil supplies to Turkey, Vladimir Putin says.