Where's the Pixar of porn?

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  1. floopypoo22

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    All of the adult 3D animation methodology being used now seems to me to represent a less than professional effort. Imagine if we could have a team of people with Pixar/Dreamworks-like ability working with an artist like John Persons- I think real life porn would get a run for its money!! (...and only the pixels would have to worry about the long term damage to their psyche)
     
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    ...not to mention the added side benefit of discovering new and different ways to represent liquid virtually. (haha)
     
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    To get something of that quality you would need a massive budget. So odds of us seeing something like that is a ways off.

    Tho I like to imagine what some creative directors could do with that amazing CG used in Avatar.
    :cool:
     
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    Ya its pretty unlikely that they would make a profit if they used pixar level animation for porn, let alone having enough money to begin with. I guess it might be interesting though.
     
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    Porn is about return on investment for the filmmakers and a quick... payoff for the audience. If you spent millions on hot CGI, who would care?
     
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    A German studio came out with one a few years ago called 'The Princess come of age' The CGI wasn't that bad, to be honest, but it's still cartoons fucking :p
     
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    In fact, after looking it to it. It was an American company - Black Widow Productions. They have since gone out of business.
     
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    I agree with most of the comments & don't think it would be profitable but the Japanese would probably like it. Might be worth searching some of their sites.
     
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    You should look up a guy called "Umemaro 3D". He's come up with some legitimate stuff. :smile:
     
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    I thought the porn industry made a shitload of money, and so figured the same could be said for a top quality adult animation studio. I guess most people in here are assuming that the reason porn is so profitable is due to low production values, and not just a universal interest in getting off. I don't think it's a waste of money, because animation allows for fantastical/over-the-top/ideal sexual couplings, but the only way to bring them to the level of perceived realism required to push the sexual buttons in our brain is to utilize very high-quality technology and ability.
     
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    Pixar movies cost buttloads of money to make. Recents films...
    Cars - 120 million
    Ratatouille 150 million
    WALL-E - 180 million
    Up - 180 million
    Toy Story 3 - 200 million
    Even the original Toy Story cost 30 million.
    Also they generally make about 1 movie a year - List of Pixar films - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    The porn industry ends up making billions of dollars because of the huge quantity of output. This is just websites...
    Surprise, Surprise: Internet Porn Is Popular
    Now consider that there are 182 million websites on the internet, 12% being porn. That means that there are over 18 million porn websites. I dont know how accurate their numbers are, but either way, thats a lot of porn. Even if it was 1% it would be over a million sites.
    Its not all the same for video makers, but they still rely more on continually making fresh content, and you end up with titles like Blowjob Fantasies 22 and Stop, My Ass Is On Fire 9.
    As you can see from this quote, they rely on low risk/low budget/not super high selling titles rather than spending millions on one or two that could ruin the company if they were busts.
    Digital Playground is one of the highest budget US porn companies, and look how many movies they have put out in the last 10 years or so - digital playground - studio - distributor - dvd and videos and more - iafd.com - internet adult film database
    It is also a necessity to produce new porn at a fast rate, since people dont usually spend months jerking off to the same few scenes for months on end. Its not long before they are demanding something new.
    This is usually how it works, the exception being the Pirates movies.



    The Columbia Chronicle
    http://www.overthinkingit.com/2009/03/26/the-adult-film-industry-rediscovers-its-balls/2/

    Pirates 2 made loads of money, but it took two years to make, featured some of the biggest stars in the industry (Sasha Grey, Jesse Jane, Belladonna etc.) and got a heap of attention and hype. Its a mainstream company with mainstream stars making a mainstream porn movie. Also, as it mentions in the article, the money wasnt spent on sex, it was spent on making the story more interesting. I even skipped the sex scenes when I watched it.


    3D animated porn on the other hand, is not mainstream. It is a niche market, and even if it reached Pixar level quality, the average mainstream person prefers watching real people do it. Might be why Digital Playground is messing around with Virtual Reality, and not virtual animation.
    Even if they didnt use state-of-the-art technology, went back to Toy Story 1 level and made a 30 million dollar 3D porn movie and sold it for 100 dollars a copy, you would need to sell 300,000 copies to break even. That is 300,000 copies for a niche market porn movie. The average person might think, 'hey this is new and interesting, I'll check it out', but that 100 dollar price tag might dissuade them. So say you halve the price, but then having to sell double the copies. 600,000 copies and you only covered the budget expenses.
    If they did use the best technology and made a 150 million dollar movie, you would need to sell 3 million copies. Even Pirates 2 is only projecting about 1 million.
    You would have (compared to most porn) an extremely expensive movie that takes an extremely long time to make, which doesnt appeal to an extremely wide range of people. Maybe the first one would succeed on novelty, but it would be hard to make it a regular thing.

    TL;DR
    - Most individual porn movies dont sell large numbers of copies
    - only popular mainstream movies would have a chance to remedy this
    - Average person = Real people fucking > 3D animation.
    - Pixar level porn = Too expensive in time and money

    P.S - Who needs crazy 3D sex when you have this? - http://www.lpsg.org/205064-3-girls-ass-play-big.html
     
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    Wow, that was a thorough analysis, what are you an economics professor or something? Well, I guess it'll just remain a dream then. That doesn't mean John Persons shouldn't put some serious time into working on some cheaper, standard 2D animation though.
     
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    I agree, I think Umemaro have made great works.

    In this website there is a nice 3D porn category

    3D Porn Videos
     
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    Apologies for necro-posting but if anyone is still looking for "the pixar of porn" check out 3dgspot.com, doesnt get anymore pixar-porn than them
     
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    love john persons stuff, and intrige3D
     
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