Which gender is more homophobic? women or men?

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i think women, despite the fact that stereo typically it's always shown that men are the more homophobic gender. i know straight guys who dont care how guys get sex, they make fun of gay sex and stuff or joke around about it. But many women, not all seem toi actually loath any male2male affection of any kind. What do you guys think??
 

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I have met far more straight women that are gay-friendly, than straight men. I think there is a tendency for some men to feel threatened, while women see the opposite; they are able to enjoy the company of a man, without any of the sexual overtones that might be the case with a straight man. I have met my share of women who were absolutely repulsed by male homosexuality, as well as men that were receptive. But overall, I find the women to be more accepting.

Consider two things, which don't seem to have a men's equivalent:

> There are straight women, sometimes referred to as "Fag Hags," who like the company of gay men, although they may have a perfectly normal relationship with a husband, etc.

> There is a genre of gay porn made specifically for a target audience of straight women. If you don't believe this, look up "Slash Porn m/m" (so called because of the slash in M/M, meaning man-on-man). It's true that straight porn often features lesbian scenes, but the slash porn is very different than this, and involves a lot more emotional involvement with the characters.

My favorite fag hag (happily married to a very straight, and also very accepting, man) puts it this way:

"The reason I prefer the company of gay men is that straight men are forever having to prove themselves to be men, and are deeply insecure that the next guy's dick might be bigger. Gay men seem to accept who they are, and want the next guys dick to be bigger."
 

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For sure men are more homophobic. You shouldn't even need to ask.

You see many Matthew Shepard kind of incidents committed by women?
 

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Dont know enough women to have a reasonably valid opinion,but am happy to state Str Males / and even some Gays, are real Homophobic Pricks at times ..
Also happy to say i can and have put down MANY a Str Male with his Ignorant rants re such. a few words and a LOOK! suffices ..
Cunts expect Gays to be subservient to them ..

Ladies and Lesbians, well tbr i am assuming, they would possibly get as equally as difficult a time as us Gays with Strs

MY Opinion ...




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Interesting about this question...but I think gay guys let off women WAY too easily. Yeah, no woman is going to do some Matthew Shepard beating, but I hear plenty of women behind closed doors (who have gay friends) make negative comments about gay men even though they may not think it. Women are the ones that are obsessed that their guy cannot act gay. They are the ones that complain if their guy wears short shorts or swim trunks. I've heard the gay friendliest of women accidentally blurt out that they would be disappointed if they had a gay son.

Straight men are programmed for sex. And if a woman suspects that they have a gay streak OR can be perceived to the public even if she knows he's completely straight...women drop them. I CANT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD A COMMENT THAT FALLS UNDER THIS CATEGORY. So what is a straight guy supposed to do...but fall into line with expectations from women. That is if they want sex. So a woman may not dislike gay men...but require their straight guys to dislike similarities with gay men...and what does the straight guy do...but act anti-gay.
 
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I've never even met a homophobic woman... seeing two guys get it on does NOTHING for me, but I'm certainly not a homophobe. Have you actually experienced seeing a woman act homophobically towards someone else or did you just pull this thread out of your ass?
 

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Many men, and most women, are quite sensible and accepting.

But in both genders, there are gradations of homophobia, from the nasty, ranty, violent kind, to the people who would do some low-key illegal discrimination ( in countries where that's applicable ), to people are a bit so-so, to people who quite like a few gay friends, to people who think it's a really big deal that everyone has to be fully accepting, and/or out, and attend Pride marches, and so on.

So, overall I think the answer is "women are more accepting", of both gays and lesbians, but it's much more complicated than that, really ...

I'm interested why the opening poster thinks women are more homophobic. A few of them can be, as I say, but you can't judge a whole gender by a few bad examples. Some people are stupid idiots ... it would be strange to put that down to something as simple as gender ...
 
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Guys as said before have this macho head fuck to deal with, women can be more accepting but I have always worked on the fact of people knowing me - then somewhere along the college ship or friendship it is mentioned - had a few comments of oh right really - and will then say something like oh my son is gay or my best friend is gay or someone else they know - to which i would normally say cool and continue.

Never really had any homophobic responses apart from jokingly but guess women are probably more accepting.
 

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Well coming from the American south, though things are indeed changing, I still see and hear not just homophobia but outright bigotry all the time, from both sexes (races, creeds, etc...). I don't define my friendships (male or female) by who they're sleeping with any more than I define myself by the ignorance (willful or not) of my progenitors and contemporaries.

But I do think this brings a good point. Anyone who clings to stereotypes (homosexuals, rednecks/hillbillies, blacks, Asians, Muslims, Christians...just fill in the blank) in this, the 21st century, chooses to exercise willful ignorance in what is ultimately a most-facilitative worldwide climate to virtually any life or lifestyle one might imagine - even some many of us never would - thus denying themselves innumerable opportunities at friendship, growth, respect.

I choose not to do that and I'm mystified (and sometimes enraged) by those who do. It's not mine to define who's more qualified to pass the pearly gates at the end of this life. It IS mine to shut my own mouth long enough to listen and see when I don't understand or have a full picture. And to advocate when I feel like I do.

My apologies if this is viewed as a hijack. :-S
 

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Well coming from the American south, though things are indeed changing, I still see and hear not just homophobia but outright bigotry all the time, from both sexes (races, creeds, etc...). I don't define my friendships (male or female) by who they're sleeping with any more than I define myself by the ignorance (willful or not) of my progenitors and contemporaries.

But I do think this brings a good point. Anyone who clings to stereotypes (homosexuals, rednecks/hillbillies, blacks, Asians, Muslims, Christians...just fill in the blank) in this, the 21st century, chooses to exercise willful ignorance in what is ultimately a most-facilitative worldwide climate to virtually any life or lifestyle one might imagine - even some many of us never would - thus denying themselves innumerable opportunities at friendship, growth, respect.

I choose not to do that and I'm mystified (and sometimes enraged) by those who do. It's not mine to define who's more qualified to pass the pearly gates at the end of this life. It IS mine to shut my own mouth long enough to listen and see when I don't understand or have a full picture. And to advocate when I feel like I do.

My apologies if this is viewed as a hijack. :-S


Very wise words.
 

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i had this question because of a thing the ex-politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali said in regards to fundamentalism and womens role. Her point is that women enforce cultural, religious and what is considered taboo in many cultures. for example it's usually women who pass judgement if other women are dressed provocatively etc. So i thought perhaps it works the same way in regards to social stigmas and bigotry. for example even the feminist Germaine Greer stated that the burka and nigab are not so much forced on women by men, but more related to other women s pressures to conform to an ideal. So why cant women force the same pressures on men and society in general. So men seen as more feminine or percieved to be gay can be shunned. Even in ancient sparta, it was the women that shamed men who retreated, it was often the women that compelled men to act more masculine, fight etc. Why cant that pressure still be exerted by women in modern times.

i think men gay and straight, really see sex as just sex. Many men i dont think will see getting a sexual act from another man as that much of a problem, providing discretion is assured. Women are more likely to view sex as emotional. So men who otherwise wont mind getting a hand job or blow job from another man, will hide it so that their wife doesnt leave them or so they have the opportunity to marry a woman and have children in the future. this is my opinion.