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Disturbing.

But one thing that jumped out at me was "The allegations put forth in this whistleblower complaint point to an alarming pattern of unsafe conditions and a lack of oversight at privately-run ICE facilities," (emphasis added) I didn't know that private prisons were a thing. I don't know WHY they're a thing. But I can't imagine that oversight is that great. I mean, it's not like our government is all that efficient at a lot of things, so why would oversight of a private company be a super high priority?

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The U.S. is full of private prisons. Why do you think there are so many weed arrests? Pretty easy to put a kid behind bars for next to nothing. Pay off a judge and profit. Happens all the time.

One story I heard was that there was a doctor who came in who would perform the hysterectomies. I can only imagine that it was Trump's doctor putting his cigarette in and ashy tray as he went about his business.

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This is definitely some serious bullshit.
 

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Disturbing.

But one thing that jumped out at me was "The allegations put forth in this whistleblower complaint point to an alarming pattern of unsafe conditions and a lack of oversight at privately-run ICE facilities," (emphasis added) I didn't know that private prisons were a thing. I don't know WHY they're a thing. But I can't imagine that oversight is that great. I mean, it's not like our government is all that efficient at a lot of things, so why would oversight of a private company be a super high priority?

(Side note- I learn something new every day on this site and I appreciate the diverse perspectives and topics presented here.)
I appreciate your open-mindedness! That said, these allegations are beyond disturbing. They are human rights violations. Pure and simple. No other way to sugarcoat this one. Though there will be those who try.

Former Fed Gov't official here. With senior-level experience overseeing administration and management, including letting of and oversight of government contracts.

Federal Government contracting laws are extremely involved and detail all parameters and legalities involved for the successful letting of Federal Government contracts. When you let a contract to a private firm, whether for a product or a service, there are provisions that require oversight of said contract. There are milestones and deliverables specified. Along with required regular reporting from the contractor to the Federal Agency.

Oversight of the contract is essential. To ensure that (a) you are getting the product or services for which the contract specifies, also known as deliverables; (b) said services comport with ALL LEGAL AND MORAL requirements; and (c) there is fiduciary compliance. In other words, making sure you are getting the specified deliverable(s) you are allocating tax payer money to. There are Federal employees whose job is contract oversight. They are usually Contracting Officers or Contracting Officer Technical Representatives.

It is the same situation one might encounter with home improvement work one may contract for through one of the big box stores. Any issues one may have or oversight needed is the responsibility of the big box store to remedy.

Same is true here. ICE IS RESPONSIBLE for what happens; its contractors are being paid to do this work in lieu of government employees.

Simply put, it's paying someone to do/make something the Federal Government, or a particular Federal Government Agency, does not typically do or cannot do. And often that's resource bound; letting contracts of this nature expands your resource allocation. Often to meet a specific one-time or emergency situations. Contracts are supposedly designed to ultimately save tax $$$. Emphasis on supposedly, as that has been an ongoing debate in the Federal Contracting world for years/decades.

There is no viable or valid rationale that can excuse what has been alleged. Though I have no doubt that the finger pointing and blame will be rampant with this situation, even though technically ICE, is responsible. That's because they put out the bids, or if a no-bid, set the parameters of the deliverable(s).

Oversight by the Federal employees is crucial. And oftentimes the career employees whose jobs are to oversee Federal contracts are often not supported when they do see issues. Because often contracts are let to friends of the current Administration. And the Political appointees at every Federal agency will involve themselves as necessary to prevent issues such as this from seeing the light of day. Would we be aware if not for this Whistleblower? And if it's not true, then ICE/this Administration should/would welcome a complete and unbiased investigation into such serious and disturbing allegations.

Failure to provide oversight is also ripe for legal challenge. What has been alleged here is criminal. I have no doubt we will be hearing about lawsuits and litigation about this issue for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't be surprised to see it at both the State and Federal levels. At some point we all have to recognize that something is not right with how this Administration has been treating immigrants. Period.

What many people in this country have lost track of is that non-white people are still people. Who live and breathe and want the same things you and I do. Sure there are bad apples; but then bad apples can be found in any race or ethnic group, so let's not introduce that here. That's the subject of another thread.

If these immigrants allegedly being sterilized were say, white immigrants from I don't know, maybe Sweden, would this even be allegedly happening? We all know that answer is a big fat NO.

My point is simple; where is the empathy for those less fortunate than ourselves? Who's crime is what? Having darker skin? Trying to make a better life here in the U.S. for themselves and their loved ones? How is this different than what has happened over the last almost 250 years?

This is the United States, founded by Immigrants. Built on the backs of immigrants. And this is how we now treat those whose only crime is wanting the same as those who immigrated before them? And people wonder why people protest! Sheesh.
 
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The U.S. is full of private prisons. Why do you think there are so many weed arrests? Pretty easy to put a kid behind bars for next to nothing. Pay off a judge and profit. Happens all the time.

One story I heard was that there was a doctor who came in who would perform the hysterectomies. I can only imagine that it was Trump's doctor putting his cigarette in and ashy tray as he went about his business.

iu


This is definitely some serious bullshit.
Yeah I'm sure Trump was behind it all.
 

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Yeah I'm sure Trump was behind it all.

I never said that. Private prisons have been around for decades. I have no idea if they have enjoyed more success during this administration or not.

I'm just thinking that a physician who would perform unwanted hysterectomies would not be the top of the class. Someone willing to falsify records for personal gain.
 

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I agree...unauthorized medical procedure on a man or woman of any sort is a crime pure and simple. Private prisons are just that...private. Very little oversight and I'm sure what happens there leaves on with her little recourse.
 
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I agree...unauthorized medical procedure on a man or woman of any sort is a crime pure and simple. Private prisons are just that...private. Very little oversight and I'm sure what happens there leaves on with her little recourse.
Private prisons = for profit prisons. Beyond the horrors described in the article, obvi, that is what I was surprised by... there are certain things I expected the government to handle. Like I expect TSA to be at the checkpoints and them to contract out cleaning bathrooms and providing various restaurants. I was just surprised that a prison could be private... lock stock and barrel. I grew up in a state where there are none & my brother in law works for BOP. I didn't know this was possible.
 
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After the rush or sorrow for the victims of this bullshit and fury of knowing nothing will be done... I was left with the numb of "well of course this is happening"

The prisons are often located in low population states. Very popular in red states. Prisoners count as residents of the state/county where they are incarcerated. This brings more federal spending/funds to a state than actual residents would allow.

Prisoners are one tiny step up from slave labor. They are paid pennies to do jobs that bring in heaps of money. So, money for warehousing human beings and money from contacting out a captive work force. This is a double fuck you to poor people because private prisons can underbid almost all independent contactors.

Prisoners have thier right to vote taken away. The states they are held in often vote against prisoners interest. Even after serving thier sentences many states will fight against reinstating voting rights *Florida, always a sparkling example of corruption and ineptitude is a great place to start reading*

Basically the war on drugs combined with privatization of the prison system has created a population of captive labor with little to no rights.

On topic... This administration has proven they do not see the poor, PoCs, immigrants or women as fully human. Heaven help the people who tic more than one box. Cuz the good christian conservatives most certainly give a damn.
 

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@MisterB thank you for that insight into US Federal contracting.

We're left with 3 possibilities, in increasing levels of disturbing.
1. Those who should have been overseeing, weren't.
2. They were, but didn't think what they found was material.
3. They didn't raise a stink because the contractor was doing precisely what they were contracted to do.

3 makes me want to throw up.
 

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@MisterB thank you for that insight into US Federal contracting.

We're left with 3 possibilities, in increasing levels of disturbing.
1. Those who should have been overseeing, weren't.
2. They were, but didn't think what they found was material.
3. They didn't raise a stink because the contractor was doing precisely what they were contracted to do.

3 makes me want to throw up.

I'm glad I could provide Federal Contracting insight and facts. From real world experience.

All three of your scenarios are possible. Cuz frankly with this Administration, nothing would surprise me.

That said, Number 1 is unlikely because those "overseeing" were onboard with it. Remember, some times the contract overseers can be political appointees. Highly unusual, but I imagine that's the case here. Can't have the career folks involved cuz they can't be trusted!

Number 2 is unlikely because those "overseeing" were onboard with it. Again with the political appointees overseeing the contract.

Number 3 is unlikely because I can't imagine anything this heinous and illegal would be reduced to paper. Can't imagine leaving such an evidence trail. Too easy to be leaked.

My experience with contracting and dealing with issues therein tells me it's not written into the contract BUT most likely was more of a "wink and a nod".

Something like a convo between the Agency political(s) and the contracted firm owner(s): "remember when the U.S. sterilized others in similar circumstances years ago". And I can't imagine they had trouble finding "Doctors" willing to do such procedures, especially given the location of most of these detention centers.

Government contracts are ripe for fraud and abuse. Especially when they are handled by Political appointees. And those in the current Administration know there is no oversight; even if caught, no investigation or punishment will be forthcoming.

At this point, I don't really care why. What's more important to me is that now it's out and hopefully no more forced sterilizations will occur. This entire issue needs to be fully investigated. And culpable individuals prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Won't happen unless and until Trump is out of office.

And then we have to hope that the career folks who remain have somehow saved the evidence/proof. The contracts and all the underlying preparatory documents should be available.

But again, with this Administration, I would put nothing past them trying to destroy evidence of their illegalities and moral failures. Especially during the transition from Election to Inauguration Days.

This particular event, IMO, lays bare the depravity of this Administration. And those who work for it. There is no excuse here. None. It's about the worst "thing" one human can inflict on another.

And ya know what's so ironic here? These same "people" who are involved in this would be the first to rail against a young white woman who wanted to have her tubes tied or a hysterectomy because she doesn't want children. Because you know, you are too young to make good decisions, and you might change your mind.

Yet they have no qualms about making that same decision for non-white women trying to immigrate to and make a better life in the U.S. Cuz ya know, we don't want any more non-white babies born here. Cuz they might grow up and not vote for us.

Sheesh!
 

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I'm glad I could provide Federal Contracting insight and facts. From real world experience.

All three of your scenarios are possible. Cuz frankly with this Administration, nothing would surprise me.

That said, Number 1 is unlikely because those "overseeing" were onboard with it. Remember, some times the contract overseers can be political appointees. Highly unusual, but I imagine that's the case here. Can't have the career folks involved cuz they can't be trusted!

Number 2 is unlikely because those "overseeing" were onboard with it. Again with the political appointees overseeing the contract.

Number 3 is unlikely because I can't imagine anything this heinous and illegal would be reduced to paper. Can't imagine leaving such an evidence trail. Too easy to be leaked.

My experience with contracting and dealing with issues therein tells me it's not written into the contract BUT most likely was more of a "wink and a nod".

Something like a convo between the Agency political(s) and the contracted firm owner(s): "remember when the U.S. sterilized others in similar circumstances years ago". And I can't imagine they had trouble finding "Doctors" willing to do such procedures, especially given the location of most of these detention centers.

Government contracts are ripe for fraud and abuse. Especially when they are handled by Political appointees. And those in the current Administration know there is no oversight; even if caught, no investigation or punishment will be forthcoming.

At this point, I don't really care why. What's more important to me is that now it's out and hopefully no more forced sterilizations will occur. This entire issue needs to be fully investigated. And culpable individuals prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Won't happen unless and until Trump is out of office.

And then we have to hope that the career folks who remain have somehow saved the evidence/proof. The contracts and all the underlying preparatory documents should be available.

But again, with this Administration, I would put nothing past them trying to destroy evidence of their illegalities and moral failures. Especially during the transition from Election to Inauguration Days.

This particular event, IMO, lays bare the depravity of this Administration. And those who work for it. There is no excuse here. None. It's about the worst "thing" one human can inflict on another.

And ya know what's so ironic here? These same "people" who are involved in this would be the first to rail against a young white woman who wanted to have her tubes tied or a hysterectomy because she doesn't want children. Because you know, you are too young to make good decisions, and you might change your mind.

Yet they have no qualms about making that same decision for non-white women trying to immigrate to and make a better life in the U.S. Cuz ya know, we don't want any more non-white babies born here. Cuz they might grow up and not vote for us.

Sheesh!

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Fuck contractors and contracting when it comes to government. Shittiest product or service at the lowest cost. Oversight my ass.

Contracting and outsourcing are detrimental to efficient and disciplined government run agencies.

Bottom line up front the government is not a profit run institution and is by design to serve the public, which most people seem to forget. I have been in the military and the government for over 40 years and have watched contracting, outsourcing or whatever other flashy buzzwords people attach to it (that are usually trying to sell it) erode and destroy government agencies.

I have personally been fucked by government contractors with housing, medical and transportation just to name a few.

Look no further than the military shit-shows in the Middle-East to see the fucking grossest waste, fraud and abuse. Wonder why there is such a huge deficit - the corporate solution is usually the reason.

The rationale is usually X Government agency can usually save great costs by passing the requirement on to Y contracted solution. In theory this works for short duration's however over time they are usually mismanaged or you get a shitty service at the lowest price possible in the name of savings.

The All-Time 10 Worst Military Contracting Boondoggles

Defense Contracting Fraud: A Persistent Problem

Report: U.S. wasted $60 billion in contracting fraud, abuse

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/06/30/military-contractor-study/

The Contract the Military Needs to Break

Oh and then there are the flatout law breaking pedo fucks

DynCorp's Child Sex Trafficking Scandal : U.S. Declassified Documents INQUIRY/INVESTIGATION OF DYNCORP — Steemit

POGO Identifies Defense Contractors Recently Sanctioned for Human Trafficking Abuses
 

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Fuck contractors and contracting when it comes to government. Shittiest product or service at the lowest cost. Oversight my ass.

Trump was a condo developer, value engineering sounds perfect for government work.


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Contracting and outsourcing are detrimental to efficient and disciplined government run agencies.

Bottom line up front the government is not a profit run institution and is by design to serve the public, which most people seem to forget. I have been in the military and the government for over 40 years and have watched contracting, outsourcing or whatever other flashy buzzwords people attach to it (that are usually trying to sell it) erode and destroy government agencies.

I have personally been fucked by government contractors with housing, medical and transportation just to name a few.

Look no further than the military shit-shows in the Middle-East to see the fucking grossest waste, fraud and abuse. Wonder why there is such a huge deficit - the corporate solution is usually the reason.

The rationale is usually X Government agency can usually save great costs by passing the requirement on to Y contracted solution. In theory this works for short duration's however over time they are usually mismanaged or you get a shitty service at the lowest price possible in the name of savings.

The All-Time 10 Worst Military Contracting Boondoggles

Defense Contracting Fraud: A Persistent Problem

Report: U.S. wasted $60 billion in contracting fraud, abuse

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/06/30/military-contractor-study/

The Contract the Military Needs to Break

Oh and then there are the flatout law breaking pedo fucks

DynCorp's Child Sex Trafficking Scandal : U.S. Declassified Documents INQUIRY/INVESTIGATION OF DYNCORP — Steemit

POGO Identifies Defense Contractors Recently Sanctioned for Human Trafficking Abuses

This post :emoji_clap::emoji_fist::emoji_metal:

And to The Man :emoji_middle_finger:
 

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Yeah I'm sure Trump was behind it all.

Whether he was aware or unaware, he owns it.

When you call yourself the "commander in chief" you are responsible for all that occurs on your watch; good or bad.

He is the leader in which every officer appointed throughout the government is undersigned by.

Responsibility comes with the job
 

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I appreciate your open-mindedness! That said, these allegations are beyond disturbing. They are human rights violations. Pure and simple. No other way to sugarcoat this one. Though there will be those who try.

Former Fed Gov't official here. With senior-level experience overseeing administration and management, including letting of and oversight of government contracts.

Federal Government contracting laws are extremely involved and detail all parameters and legalities involved for the successful letting of Federal Government contracts. When you let a contract to a private firm, whether for a product or a service, there are provisions that require oversight of said contract. There are milestones and deliverables specified. Along with required regular reporting from the contractor to the Federal Agency.

Oversight of the contract is essential. To ensure that (a) you are getting the product or services for which the contract specifies, also known as deliverables; (b) said services comport with ALL LEGAL AND MORAL requirements; and (c) there is fiduciary compliance. In other words, making sure you are getting the specified deliverable(s) you are allocating tax payer money to. There are Federal employees whose job is contract oversight. They are usually Contracting Officers or Contracting Officer Technical Representatives.

It is the same situation one might encounter with home improvement work one may contract for through one of the big box stores. Any issues one may have or oversight needed is the responsibility of the big box store to remedy.

Same is true here. ICE IS RESPONSIBLE for what happens; its contractors are being paid to do this work in lieu of government employees.

Simply put, it's paying someone to do/make something the Federal Government, or a particular Federal Government Agency, does not typically do or cannot do. And often that's resource bound; letting contracts of this nature expands your resource allocation. Often to meet a specific one-time or emergency situations. Contracts are supposedly designed to ultimately save tax $$$. Emphasis on supposedly, as that has been an ongoing debate in the Federal Contracting world for years/decades.

There is no viable or valid rationale that can excuse what has been alleged. Though I have no doubt that the finger pointing and blame will be rampant with this situation, even though technically ICE, is responsible. That's because they put out the bids, or if a no-bid, set the parameters of the deliverable(s).

Oversight by the Federal employees is crucial. And oftentimes the career employees whose jobs are to oversee Federal contracts are often not supported when they do see issues. Because often contracts are let to friends of the current Administration. And the Political appointees at every Federal agency will involve themselves as necessary to prevent issues such as this from seeing the light of day. Would we be aware if not for this Whistleblower? And if it's not true, then ICE/this Administration should/would welcome a complete and unbiased investigation into such serious and disturbing allegations.

Failure to provide oversight is also ripe for legal challenge. What has been alleged here is criminal. I have no doubt we will be hearing about lawsuits and litigation about this issue for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't be surprised to see it at both the State and Federal levels. At some point we all have to recognize that something is not right with how this Administration has been treating immigrants. Period.

What many people in this country have lost track of is that non-white people are still people. Who live and breathe and want the same things you and I do. Sure there are bad apples; but then bad apples can be found in any race or ethnic group, so let's not introduce that here. That's the subject of another thread.

If these immigrants allegedly being sterilized were say, white immigrants from I don't know, maybe Sweden, would this even be allegedly happening? We all know that answer is a big fat NO.

My point is simple; where is the empathy for those less fortunate than ourselves? Who's crime is what? Having darker skin? Trying to make a better life here in the U.S. for themselves and their loved ones? How is this different than what has happened over the last almost 250 years?

This is the United States, founded by Immigrants. Built on the backs of immigrants. And this is how we now treat those whose only crime is wanting the same as those who immigrated before them? And people wonder why people protest! Sheesh.
This is particularly informative - not only concerning the US set up but to someone who works with people in prison/coming out of prison in the UK.

Private jails are also in Britain but they're not the same kind of "businesses", if I can put it like that, that some are in the States.

But any way you look at it, prisons are big business and for me there is a HUGE question mark over whether the private sector should have anything to do with them. Or probation.

Re: the story - I should like to see further investigation or corroboration and reports. On the face of it, it's shocking and if proven prosecutions will result.
 
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We contract everything. My then smoll human noticed his school and my community college had the same logo in the cafeteria, Sodexo.
He liked eating at my school, and one evening (our spring breaks didn’t line up, so he got to attend college once a year) he asked why my school’s food was better than his.
So I called a buddy out from the back.
He explained how since they can charge college students more, or ala carte, better quality went there.
Kiddo, who really didn’t fall far from my tree, said, so kindergarteners eat crap because the school is cheap?
He was assured it was the USDA via the school lunch program.

so, it’s a contract like the one mom is writing about?
( I tell my buddy I’m working on the Coca Cola contract story)
Yeah, little man, it is.

I was floored at how this kid saw through things.
 

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This is particularly informative - not only concerning the US set up but to someone who works with people in prison/coming out of prison in the UK.

Private jails are also in Britain but they're not the same kind of "businesses", if I can put it like that, that some are in the States.

But any way you look at it, prisons are big business and for me there is a HUGE question mark over whether the private sector should have anything to do with them. Or probation.

Oddly enough when I looked up @Scarletbegonia 's comment reference Sodexo; a good deal of scandal appears to come from the company running or administering jails in the UK.

Baby dies in UK prison after inmate 'gives birth alone in cell'

'Cruel, inhumane and degrading': Female prisoner kept segregated in

and to the point of the keen eyed Kindergartner, the British Army will probably bear witness and support the youngsters analysis & critique.

ttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3502739/Squaddies-share-pictures-Facebook-rancid-food-served.html
 

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Re: the story - I should like to see further investigation or corroboration and reports. On the face of it, it's shocking and if proven prosecutions will result.

Under normal circumstances and good governance; I would say there would probably be some level of an in depth investigation and accountability taken. As it stands now, it is a dubious assumption.

This regime is the most blatant dysfunctionally corrupt, morally bankrupt and totally fucked-up as any third world shit hole (his words) in our countries history.

To my fellow countrymen I say make "America Great", and help evict this motherfucker from 1600 Pennsylvania by voting for anyone other than him on election day.