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If you define bipartisanship as 'caving into the minority demands' then... no. And why should there be? You know, that whole deal about how elections have consequences, will of the people and what-not.

Caving into minority demands? The American people don't support what the Democrats are doing or Obama's policies so how would they be caving into minority demands? Democrats were confused in their thinking that the election gave them a mandate to do anything they wanted...it didn't.

Elections do have consequences and Pelosi and the Democrats may become acquainted with it very soon starting with 2010.
 

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The American people don't support what the Democrats are doing or Obama's policies so how would they be caving into minority demands?

Really? The majority of "American People" who voted, voted for Obama and voted more Democrats into Congress than Republicans.

They were voted into office on a clearly stated agenda which is now being put into action. You can call that "doing anything they wanted" or you can face the reality that more voters supported the Democratic platform than the Republican platform. You're a Republican - you don't like it - understood. But you don't speak for the "American People"

The majority of "American People" want health care reform.

The majority of "American People" approve of Barack Obama as President.

Now if by "American People" you mean the fucktards teabagging all over Fox News, I'd suggest that you broaden your scope of influence and realize that they're not in the mainstream by any stretch.

You're free to disagree with the President and the agenda. But claiming that the "American People" aren't supporting him is out of step with reality.

Obama: Job Ratings
 
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Really? The majority of "American People" who voted, voted for Obama.

I said they don't support what the Democrats are doing or Obama's policies.

The majority of "American People" want health care reform.

Yes they do. That doesn't mean they support Obama's reform.

According to a Washington Post poll published 10/20/09, Americans oppose the Obama administration’s health care plan 48% to 45%.

The majority of "American People" approve of Barack Obama as President.
Obama: Job Ratings


Devastating drop in job approval numbers for Obama in new Gallup survey

President Obama's push for health care reform during the third quarter of 2009 has seriously damaged his public standing, according to new data from the Gallup Daily tracking poll. His job approval rating dropped nine points from the second to the third quarter, from 62 percent to 53 percent.
The nine-point second-to-third quarter drop is the highest Gallup has ever measured for an incumbent president during his first year in office, and among the highest quarter-to-quarter drops measured for any president at any point:

Now if by "American People" you mean the fucktards teabagging all over Fox News, I'd suggest that you broaden your scope of influence and realize that you're not in the mainstream by any stretch.

Majority support Public Option

Not quite. The Democrats refuse to even put their bills in legal language and post it online so people can read it. The public doesn't even know what is truly meant by the term "public option." It depends on how a "public option" is structured. The Democrats don't even know what their "public option" is...but Democrats are trying to assert polls show the American people support something they refuse to define.

When asked, "Do you think the health care plan creates too much government involvement in the nation's health care system, not enough government involvement or about the right amount?" Americans responded by an 8-point margin (42-34) that Obamacare would create too much government involvement, rather than the right amount.
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Well gee. The free world survived the last Democratic President getting blown in the White House. I don't imagine some free health care will kill off the Republic either. Get a grip.

His stimulus created 30,000 jobs. his on economic advisor said thats as good as it gets. there's no money to pay for his health care reform not to mention doctors. Obamas been selling us out trying to censure anything that oposes him. at this rate there will be a civil war by 2012. I suspect he's been chewing on the coca leave with Chaves.
 

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Trinity you're a class A parser of words but get an F for rhetorical aptitude.

Democrats "refuse to put their bills in legal language." What does that even mean? It's in braille?

And thanks for the poll which points out that the majority (53%) of "the American people" approve of Obama's job. Which is, of course, the exact opposite of what you said but you'll claim you're right anyway. The best you can say is that Americans are "divided." But you didn't...because you just can't help yourself.
 

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And thanks for the poll which points out that the majority (53%) of "the American people" approve of Obama's job. Which is, of course, the exact opposite of what you said but you'll claim you're right anyway. The best you can say is that Americans are "divided." But you didn't...because you just can't help yourself.

Wrong. I said twice: The American People don't support what the Democrats are doing or Obama's policies and the polls back that up. I didn't bring up Obama's job approval polls. You did. I simply responded that Obama's job approval has decreased dramatically and that also backs up my statement.
 

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Wrong. I said twice: The American People don't support what the Democrats are doing or Obama's policies and the polls back that up. I didn't bring up Obama's job approval polls. You did. I simply responded that Obama's job approval has decreased dramatically and that also backs up my statement.

Seriously what...the...fuck.

So your premise is that, yes people approve of the job Obama is doing but...? Hey you're doing a great job at doing the things I don't think you should do?
 

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Seriously what...the...fuck.

So your premise is that, yes people approve of the job Obama is doing but...? Hey you're doing a great job at doing the things I don't think you should do?

No where in that job approval is "you're doing a great job." It's going down so fast Gallup is noting how badly it's falling.

If you and Obama are holding on to the 3% margin of error as a mandate on issues that poll individually with no majority support outside of the margin of error, that shows exactly how misguided you and the Obama administration are in your thinking.

It's as if you can see that your light is on a dimmer, but still think that it's either on or off. Absolutely laughable.

Tweedle dee and tweedle dumber. :rolleyes:
 
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How cute... a tinfoil hat wearing, white supremacist blog posting, birther & Obamaphobe is trying to call someone dumb. The only reason why you even know what the word dumb looks like because it's been used by practically everyone here to describe you.

Absolutely LAUGHABLE. Now, be gone with your sorry ass before I start Fudding you again. :rolleyes:
 

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How cute... a tinfoil hat wearing, white supremacist blog posting, birther & Obamaphobe is trying to call someone dumb. The only reason why you even know what the word dumb looks like because it's been used by practically everyone here to describe you.

Absolutely LAUGHABLE. Now, be gone with your sorry ass before I start Fudding you again.

Sorry, when you speak fluently in cartoon character Elmer Fudd speech, can't comprehend simple information and miss the point on numerous occasions while attempting to level witty commentary in a political forum - you are the dummy.

And yes each time you did it...it was laughable. And by all means, continue your buffoonery. You only prove how silly you are.
 

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Sowwy, when you speak fwuentwy in cawtoon chawactew Ewmew Fudd speech, can't compwehend simpwe infowmation and miss the point on numewous occasions whiwe attempting to wevew witty commentawy in a powiticaw fowum - you awe the dummy. And yes each time you did it...it was waughabwe. And by aww means, continue youw buffoonewy. You onwy pwove how siwwy you awe.

Um.... come again, racist? Did I just see a flaming cross fall out of your mouth in your last post? :rolleyes:

Everyone knows can be silly. I pride myself in being able to engage in a little lampoonery here and there. It allows me to not get too wrapped up in the phony seriousness of some issues. Especially when the subject matter is someone as disgusting as you... but since you misconstrue the concept of Fuddism, how about I convey to you the disdain of many people of this forum in this vitriolic comment: You're a disingenuous, unworldly charlatan. You bring nothing to discussions but distorted mathematical figures, shielded by text walls of other bigoted opinions from glorified news sources & periodicals. A convenient, yet ineffective way to disguise your own divisive, partisan-fueled, ignorant thoughts while you try so desperately to portray an image of objectivity.

Now do yourself a favor and focus your attentions on stevenvegas. He's the one willing to give you the intellectual bashing this time. I'll be content to just mock your sorry ass for the hack that you really are. Enjoy your pathetic, worthless, bilinear life... you scwewy wabbit!.
 
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Um.... come again, racist? Did I just see a flaming cross fall out of your mouth in your last post? :rolleyes:

Everyone knows I'm silly. I pride myself in being able to engage in a little lampoonery here and there. It allows me to not get too wrapped up in the phony seriousness of some issues. Especially when the subject matter is someone as disgusting as you... You bring nothing to discussions but distorted mathematical figures, shielded by other bigoted opinions from glorified news sources & periodicals. A perfect way to disguise your own divisive & partisan-fueled ignorance while you try so desperately to portray an image of objectivity.

Enjoy your pathetic, worthless, bilinear life... you scwewy wabbit!.

The only one bringing distorted mathematical figures to a discussion is you! Remember you ridiculous theory from the Natural Born Citizen Clause? Came up with that one all on your own. :rolleyes:

You aren't too bright, you constantly miss the point and miscomprehend subject matter. Trying to play it off as if you actually mean to lighten the mood is pure looney toons...that is apparently why you speak in Elmer Fudd speech. :wink:
 
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No where in that job approval is "you're doing a great job."

Sorry but "doing a great job" isn't an option. You either approve - or you disapprove. That's how the poll works.

And yes that means the majority of Americans support Obama - which, I'll again point out is the opposite of what you claimed:

Support Synonym | Synonym of Support and Antonym of Support at Thesaurus.com

Main Entry: support
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: help, approval
 

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De onwy one bwinging distowted mathematicaw figuwes to a discussion is you! Wemembew you widicuwous theowy fwom the Natuwaw Bown Citizen Cwause? Came up wif that one aww on youw own, uh-hah-hah-hah. :wowweyes: You awen't too bwight, you constantwy miss the point and miscompwehend subject mattew. Twying to pway off as if you actuawwy mean to wighten the mood is puwe wooney toons. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! ..that is appawentwy why you speak in Ewmew Fudd speech. :wink:

You still don't get it, do you bitch? :rolleyes:
Nothing that comes out of your mouth registers with anyone with a brain. Without Fuddisms, you'd probably be on the ignore list of every single soul on this forum. Debating with you is a waste of time because you can only think in binary. And I'm not here to talk to an intellectual zero who can't use common sense.

One day you'll realize that I'm never going to take you seriously. Focus on those who really do want to talk to you.... you scwewy wabbit!
 

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Dude, she is living within the confines of her own narrow mind on most of this stuff.

Mostly she's good at parsing words and seems utterly incapable of assembling the bigger picture (as in decoupling a President's job approval from support for his policies).

Unfortunately this isn't atypical here. On another thread I pointed out that showing your child your erection is illegal. I was asked to point out which law makes it illegal and it was discredited because it didn't specifically say that "showing your erection to a child is illegal" (only that "intentionally exposing your genitals to a minor with a reasonable expectation of causing alarm" is illegal).

The sad truth is that if people want to believe badly enough that the sky is green (or that Obama is the devil or that it's ok to wag your weenie to children) then they'll go to any length to cling to it... logic be damned.