i agree with skull mason. i can't actually remember what he said - i'm just thrown by how fucking sexy he is. he's gotta be one of the hottest guys on this site. 100 str8, so no chance for me - even if i was in N Jersey - sniff.
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I totally get where you are coming from Badboy. I have had many experiences with this and the craziness of the situation drives me batty. I feel it has to do with exposure and how people are raised and where they live.
There is one time at University that comes to mind. I was speaking with a friend and he mentioned in a room full of people, "I find some Black men attractive but I could never date one, the idea of sex is weird too."
He went on to apologize in order to save face but the damage was done. The connotation was evident in his speech and it was very apparent he wanted to make his standard "icky" pantomime. I felt much better when my White straight edge friend spoke up and said, "It's ok, you don't have to apologize for your racist dating preferences." Everyone had a good laugh.
Later when we were isolated at a party he told me that he found me attractive.
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- b.c.,
Well, as I suggested in my first response to the o.p., their attraction may be sexual or their behavior may be based on social expectations of behavior that their peers place upon them, as opposed to how they would regularly behave in a more private setting.
If it's sexual, then their "indifference" may be feigned because they don't want their buds to know they're after your wang.
If it's social, their "coolness" in public may be based on notions of how their (white) peers would expect them to act towards black folk, and not how they'd normally act. Some Asians do this... women and black folk too.
Some are often guided by what they think is socially acceptable, and not necessarily by what they know is right.
If it's sexual, then their "indifference" may be feigned because they don't want their buds to know they're after your wang.
If it's social, their "coolness" in public may be based on notions of how their (white) peers would expect them to act towards black folk, and not how they'd normally act. Some Asians do this... women and black folk too.
Some are often guided by what they think is socially acceptable, and not necessarily by what they know is right.
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Ok, maybe I should've said "the self respecting, confident white MEN here don't give a fuck"
" Also as a man who is not black, I can assure you that none of us are interested if the myth is true".
Did you take a vote or conduct a survey? How do you know what "us" thinks? Did you speak to "us"? Did "us" come to your house for dinner Saturday night? You are so limited. Note the use of "us", is a form of separation and exclusion.
You are such a forward thinking liberal..and it shows.
My wife does this too..when an issue is raised about how..she says "well how about when you...".
Note the multitude of excuses for this behavior..none of them placing the ownness and blame on white men. It fucking kills me.
Additionally, those same behaviors tend to leak into other facets of our lives..hiring practices, etc..
there is a word for purposeful homogeneous cultural=Institutional Racism.
what generalization. Are you serious? Crack a book. I'm talking non-fiction.
You cannot walk in my shoes as I cannot walk in yours...I sound like your wife? Yeh right...its impossible, she is not me, believe. Its soooo incredible irritating the way many black americans ways to try see other cultures and dealings with races and colors in our own cultures experiences by trying to insert on "us" their own experiences and understanding of it being black and american...wake up and smell the coffee..there are many minorities suffering way longer before you and still have ther own struggles too...wake up and look around, not everything is black and white as you see it. But I do understand that maybe many cannot yet take responsability and just grow doing that. Stop trying to control what you cannot and hold fast unto you as move foward and improve, change, build it again, whatever what you can about yourself. The world does not own us nada, not even a sincere apology, ask those who came before you, if they are still around...make peace with yourself, at least try it.
People struggle much way much more over the world and black americans, some of them still choose to be stucked in excuses. Yes it did hurt, yeh life is not fair, yeh some a persecuted and kill, yeh atrocities happens and no one seems to care and it feels never will change...if you dont have that bad yet, well, you for sure not can survive but strive, try it...many have no option and way of scape their realities of real heavy duty struggles... .
It just sucks a lot when some 1st wold country citizens, with at least the minimum stuff that makes a human being survive in 1st world standards of course, find themselves still using the same old talking of oppression...as if there are just on race that suffer above anyother..yeh right..if you are poor, minority that many times is really majority if the minority rules your life and some others etc - you are not alone at all, many are in the exactly same rainbow boat all over the planet...many even wanting take places if you and getting your life here. This is like parents telling us to eat our food that many in the world have little or nothing because its just true.
Well anyways, I already walk in my own shoes and unique experiences being a foreigner born... plus living in US as a "latina" and other choices of the moment labels, I do have my own struggles and not much patience about some peoples mentality of putting their struggles above all others because they really really got it much worse then all and everybody who are not "them" owns them forever too.
- b.c.,
I don't understand how this thread went off the deep end, from a guy making an observation based on his personal experiences and raising the question "why" to... well, I don't know exactly what... "institutionalized racism" and whining about it (whaaa??)
As Uncut noted, the op raised a valid point and my responses were an attempt to explain (by virtue of my own experiences and theories on the practice) the rationale (or if not, the motives) behind the action.
As I hinted in one of my previous responses this may well be a two-way street for all socioeconomic and racial groups, whereby people behave differently towards those considered outside "the group" when they are with the group.
For example, is it possible that blacks, while in the company of other blacks, act a little differently towards whites?? Maybe not everyone, but maybe some. I'm just throwing this up for consideration.
If you add to that mix the possibility of a sexual interest (i.e. attraction/curiousity about the o.p.'s endowment) then you introduce a whole new set of complexities.
Now although some may feel that this is yet another occassion where Black Americans are trying to force/insert our struggles/issues/experiences upon the rest of the world, the original query seemed to me a valid topic (although oddly placed in the wrong discussion group), and just as worthy of introspection as most here.
As Uncut noted, the op raised a valid point and my responses were an attempt to explain (by virtue of my own experiences and theories on the practice) the rationale (or if not, the motives) behind the action.
As I hinted in one of my previous responses this may well be a two-way street for all socioeconomic and racial groups, whereby people behave differently towards those considered outside "the group" when they are with the group.
For example, is it possible that blacks, while in the company of other blacks, act a little differently towards whites?? Maybe not everyone, but maybe some. I'm just throwing this up for consideration.
If you add to that mix the possibility of a sexual interest (i.e. attraction/curiousity about the o.p.'s endowment) then you introduce a whole new set of complexities.
Now although some may feel that this is yet another occassion where Black Americans are trying to force/insert our struggles/issues/experiences upon the rest of the world, the original query seemed to me a valid topic (although oddly placed in the wrong discussion group), and just as worthy of introspection as most here.
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As a jock at prep schools and college, I played sports on teams full of black dudes, and was in the gym/lockerooms with them a whole lot. I found they preferred their own company to us white jocks and actively excluded us from their goings on...including their little cock games. So it works both ways.
I think a point has been made, mabee... But I used to work in the projects in Baltimore, had many black friends there, was tested constantly too.... I think in groups in general people tend to block themselves off, I mean would you want to be seen drooling over any guy in public... at least in such a public place.
I would also like to add that there is some truth to the fact many whites are intimidated by the media driven black culture which is in no way realistic to the day to day family lives of many I have known. Not every black guy beats ho's and kills cops ya know. I have had the pleasure of a few relationships with black men 3... all very gentle~manly. I personally hate feeling like I have to hide that fact from some as they would judge me.
Hey you werent there honey, you'd have done them too...lol
I would also like to add that there is some truth to the fact many whites are intimidated by the media driven black culture which is in no way realistic to the day to day family lives of many I have known. Not every black guy beats ho's and kills cops ya know. I have had the pleasure of a few relationships with black men 3... all very gentle~manly. I personally hate feeling like I have to hide that fact from some as they would judge me.
Hey you werent there honey, you'd have done them too...lol
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Man, that's funny, because I voted for Bush. Twice.
Maybe the question isn't how I came up with an "us", but rather how many different ways you're going to ask me about it. You're not funny. Or witty. Maybe a bit egotistical, but neither of the former.
Would it make you happier if I just said "as a non-black man I can assure you I don't give a fuck about how big your cock is"? Does it really hurt your fucking infantile feelings that much to think for a moment "hey, maybe he's right...maybe the rest of the world has better things to think about than penis myths"?
Regardless, wtf does it matter to you if I'm a "forward thinking liberal"? My political preferences are none of your concern. But, like I said, I voted for G.W. twice, and growing up in the 'bible belt' instilled in me a lot of "conservative values", but I'm not afraid to admit social and political changes are necessary sometimes. For example, it's about time we stopped being cry babies about the past and start worrying about the present/future.
Here's my survey: how many of you white guys really give a damn about black cock myths?
Dinner's at my house tonight. 7 pm.
You are so fucking stupid. I asked you if you had taken a vote, not to gage your political affliction, but to ask how you substantiate statements like " we" and "us".
Good fucking grief..you are such a pompous jackass.
Your political affiliations? I could not care fucking less who you voted for. My question was one of a statical nature and you ramble on about Bush?????
Lmao. The funniest thing I seen all day. The worst thing is that some people actually believe it!
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