White privilege

[Smaccoms]

Sometimes things like Black History Month make me cringe because it creates a type of historical segregation. The solution is to stop ignoring the contributions of non-white Americans, not keeping them separate as part of "colored" history or "white" history. It's those kind of token gestures, that aren't really affective at bridging racial divisions, that turn people off

The obvious solution to this complaint is to talk about black history during all 12 months of the year, and criticize others when they refuse to acknowledge how black history intertwines with the rest of history.

 

[phallic_deity86]

The obvious solution to this complaint is to talk about black history during all 12 months of the year, and criticize others when they refuse to acknowledge how black history intertwines with the rest of history.

Yeah that's what I mean. Just talk about them as part of history like anything else.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Sometimes things like Black History Month make me cringe because it creates a type of historical segregation. The solution is to stop ignoring the contributions of non-white Americans, not keeping them separate as part of "colored" history or "white" history. It's those kind of token gestures, that aren't really affective at bridging racial divisions, that turn people off

There wouldn't be a need for different months dedicated to different groups' history if the contributions of all people were integrated into the history books. Let's say goodbye to the days when all non white/European people are limited or erased from the books.

 

[Smaccoms]

Yeah that's what I mean. Just talk about them as part of history like anything else.

If only our history books and classrooms weren't filled with so much propaganda. Instead of doing what you say, we get the "Great Man" version of history.

For example, instead of learning about all the slave rebellions that occurred in America after the revolution, we hear about Abraham Lincoln and the Emancipation Proclamation. No offense to Abraham, but those slave rebellions played a huge role in the lead up to the Civil War. We don't even learn how the Civil War was really about two ruling elite classes battling it out for control over the American economy: plantation owners (the more feudal south) versus the factory owners (the more capitalist north). That seems far more important than the Emancipation Proclamation to me.

I learned hardly a thing about Reconstruction, or how that period formed the material basis for the populism movement. Didn't get details on any of that until AFTER college. Such a shame!

 

[Jjz1109]

And we wonder why we have the current state of race relations. These posts are prime examples.

 

[StormfrontFL]

And we wonder why we have the current state of race relations. These posts are prime examples.

Translation:

The reason the races are so divided is because you dare to mention being treated negatively. Shut up and go back to letting us run things and all will be okay. Let's go back to the days when "those" people knew their place.

 

[Jjz1109]

Right. What more can be said that hasn't already been said about white privilege in just 33 pages.

 

[Boobalaa]

Ok then, start a new thread called Flint, Michigan

 

[Fuzzy_]

White privilege is using dangerous chemicals to lighten ones skin. Whiteness brings prestige.

 

[Thikn2velvet1]

I think it's real, but I don't like the word "privilege". In the class system we have, all workers are oppressed. Even if you benefit from white privilege, as a worker, you are still oppressed and exploited. The term "privilege" implies the idea that if you are white (not black), then you are not oppressed. It distracts from the issue at large, that issue being (imho) that systemic oppression needs to be eradicated. No amount of "privilege" is going to accomplish that, which is why I call privilege theory a distraction.

Don't get me wrong, having more or less privileges makes a huge difference in terms of how a person can live their life...and that's important. But determining who experiences more or less systemic oppression does nothing to reduce the amount of systemic oppression that actually exists in the world...and that's just as important.

This sounds like sour grapes and whining. It costs about a $1 million to start even a tiny micro brewery. There is synodic antbirds to any business and a ton of hard work. It isn't easy to meet a payroll, certainly harder than meeting a paycheck. If starting a micro brew is so easy, start one.

 

[Thikn2velvet1]

This sounds like sour grapes and whining. It costs about a $1 million to start even a tiny micro brewery. There is synodic antbirds to any business and a ton of hard work. It isn't easy to meet a payroll, certainly harder than meeting a paycheck. If starting a micro brew is so easy, start one.

Significant risk, not antbirds lol

 

[Smaccoms]

This sounds like sour grapes and whining. It costs about a $1 million to start even a tiny micro brewery. There is synodic antbirds to any business and a ton of hard work. It isn't easy to meet a payroll, certainly harder than meeting a paycheck. If starting a micro brew is so easy, start one.

You're right, I am whining and complaining about sour grapes. People have a right to complain about an unjust and unequal society. There's no reason why many should starve on the streets while a precious few get to wine and dine endlessly over the years.

 

[Klingsor]

There is synodic antbirds to any business . . .

That is SO true.

 

[Thikn2velvet1]

You're right, I am whining and complaining about sour grapes. People have a right to complain about an unjust and unequal society. There's no reason why many should starve on the streets while a precious few get to wine and dine endlessly over the years.

If they started a successful microbrewery, yes, they should enjoy wining and dining over the years.

Again, if it is so easy, start one.

 

[Smaccoms]

If they started a successful microbrewery, yes, they should enjoy wining and dining over the years.

Again, if it is so easy, start one.

So what you're saying is that you support the immense level of income inequality in the states? You believe it just for the top 1% of Americans to own 40% of the nations wealth? It's cute how you think I'm complaining only about my own situation. No, I'm complaining about how obscenely greedy the capitalist elites truly are.

 

[Thikn2velvet1]

So what you're saying is that you support the immense level of income inequality in the states? You believe it just for the top 1% of Americans to own 40% of the nations wealth? It's cute how you think I'm complaining only about my own situation. No, I'm complaining about how obscenely greedy the capitalist elites truly are.

That isn't of which you first complained, you complained and whined about the microbrewery you at which you work. If you are so talented and work so hard and ambitiously, then start a competing MB. See how well you do. Now if you want to retract that bullshit whine, and start a discussion of inequality, then do that. But bitching that the place that gainfully employs you is unfair, show us a different way. Start up Businesses fail at an alarming rate. Whining about one of the few ones to have MADE IT, is the cowards way.

 

[Smaccoms]

That isn't of which you first complained, you complained and whined about the microbrewery you at which you work. If you are so talented and work so hard and ambitiously, then start a competing MB. See how well you do. Now if you want to retract that bullshit whine, and start a discussion of inequality, then do that. But bitching that the place that gainfully employs you is unfair, show us a different way. Start up Businesses fail at an alarming rate. Whining about one of the few ones to have MADE IT, is the cowards way.

I was using it as an example to illustrate how inequality is built into the system. Oh, but you don't want to talk about where inequality comes from, do you? For whatever reason, you'd rather throw me under the bus to make all my arguments null and void. You actually circumvent the discussion of inequality and systemic oppression (the topic of the thread BTW) in order to criticize my personal values and beliefs about my workplace? Grow up...

MY POINT was to say that without workers, profit wouldn't exist. That's not a complaint, it's a fact. The wealth in a brewery comes from the production and selling of the beer. If the owner does not take part in that process, they are producing zero wealth. That is a fact. This says nothing about the owner as a person, but everything about where profit itself actually comes from in a capitalist system...that is from workers.

Racism is used to make that system work more efficiently. With unemployment rates higher in the black community, owners can threaten to replace white workers with black ones (whom they pay less). It helps prevent workers fighting for higher wages. Lower unemployment rates and higher wages are examples of white privilege. But even white workers produce wealth they don't get to see.

 

[Thikn2velvet1]

I was using it as an example to illustrate how inequality is built into the system. Oh, but you don't want to talk about where inequality comes from, do you? For whatever reason, you'd rather throw me under the bus to make all my arguments null and void. You actually circumvent the discussion of inequality and systemic oppression (the topic of the thread BTW) in order to criticize my personal values and beliefs about my workplace? Grow up...

MY POINT was to say that without workers, profit wouldn't exist. That's not a complaint, it's a fact. The wealth in a brewery comes from the production and selling of the beer. If the owner does not take part in that process, they are producing zero wealth. That is a fact. This says nothing about the owner as a person, but everything about where profit itself actually comes from in a capitalist system...that is from workers.

Racism is used to make that system work more efficiently. With unemployment rates higher in the black community, owners can threaten to replace white workers with black ones (whom they pay less). It helps prevent workers fighting for higher wages. Lower unemployment rates and higher wages are examples of white privilege. But even white workers produce wealth they don't get to see.

Lets olay the childish game. Without the micro Brewers investing more than a $1 million , there would be no jobs to bitch about. No more arguing with you, you are an immature child.

Grow the fuck up.

 

[Boobalaa]

Ya gotta stop watching those debates..lol

 

[Fuzzy_]

White privilege is when a black guy gets punched at a Trump rally and officers tackle him rather than his white assailant.