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Speaking from a country where it is compulsory to vote....under threat of prosecution. I find it extremely difficult to vote for a party which does not have a person or beliefs these days which have the nation as a whole foremost and uppermost in their mind.

It seems these days it is all about "agendas". There is no common cause for the greater good. Until a party begins thinking about this, any party here, instead of the willy nilly.

Social media has confused and confounded our politicians minds. And ours.....just look at the political forums...:)
 
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Enjoying having sex with other men has no inherent political relation at this point. Not in the West at least.
So, I'll explain the joke, though explained jokes lose their humor. Voters get fucked in the ass, hyperbolically speaking. They are given poor choices, yet still must choose. They vote for the best lies they have to listen to. Rather than getting to elect truly good public servants, they elect the ones who won't totally destroy the republic, merely scratch it up a little. Voters are screwed. Fucked. In the ass. Lubeless.
 
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So, I'll explain the joke, though explained jokes lose their humor. Voters get fucked in the ass, hyperbolically speaking. They are given poor choices, yet still must choose. They vote for the best lies they have to listen to. Rather than getting to elect truly good public servants, they elect the ones who won't totally destroy the republic, merely scratch it up a little. Voters are screwed. Fucked. In the ass. Lubeless.
I think at this point in time, with the technological, information revolution, we are all a bit like a Kangaroo, (deer) in the headlights.

We're all a little bit stunned with the overload of information available to us. There does not seem to be a clear path.

It began with the space race....everything became a race to see who would be first. It really has not stopped since that time.

We have come to a point we do not depend on our own intuition and confidence in our own personal choices. How we get back, well.... how people get back what has been taken away from them is going to be the battle before we are able to elect someone who we identify can do the job. At the moment, we are all a bunch of confused ninnies, listening to a bunch of even more confused nincompoops who are having their strings pulled by those who are laughing their heads off.

Tune it down, regain control and balance in the basics.

Me, well, you have a pretty good idea of me :)
 
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So, I'll explain the joke, though explained jokes lose their humor. Voters get fucked in the ass, hyperbolically speaking. They are given poor choices, yet still must choose. They vote for the best lies they have to listen to. Rather than getting to elect truly good public servants, they elect the ones who won't totally destroy the republic, merely scratch it up a little. Voters are screwed. Fucked. In the ass. Lubeless.

Thanks for saving me the trouble. :)
 

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Awesome! It's a legitimate relief to finally see some good work being done on investigating the Alt-Right from a Left-leaning (mainstream) perspective. A few particularly worthy insights Mr. Wilson had:

You mention that they also have some “fair points.” What are they?

I think it’s a fair point that leftists are widely tolerant of all kinds of people, but are often quite hateful to those who honestly hold conservative values. There are people who actually believe in God with all their heart. There are people who cannot cognitively resolve a guy kissing a guy. It doesn’t mean they’re seconds away from a hate crime. There is a legitimate human need to want to hold on to tradition in any culture.

We need to have courageous, face-to-face conversations with difficult people outside of the security of our laptops.

How did a brand-new generation of white guys get that hateful? They never joined their dad in a lynch mob. They never smelled the burning flesh of a Negro in a town square or lived in Jim Crow America. And yet, they still adopted those hateful attitudes.

That last bit points to precisely what I have been arguing here the past couple months. People seem to have this impression that the Alt-Right is just a rebranding of the same old stock of White nationalists. But it's very much not the case. There are some connections, but the majority of the AR's population is young men who were not brought up with this ideology. Which is what makes it particularly critical that we strive to learn what is motivating them. I think Mr. Wilson caught a glimmer of it with his perceiving their sense of being dispossessed of their place in society.
 

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Well, ultimately if we can get all the nonsense racist extremist insanity to end among Jews, Caucasians AND Blacks then we can actually start to have some dialogue. Until then it will all remain emotional shouting and outbursts. The problem is that the loudest voices among all 3 groups are all the racist ones and not the deeper thinkers who are not racist but who are actually aware of the issues at hand and wanting to tangibly solve them.
There are a series of issues that people need to be allowed and encouraged to openly discuss to eliminate this extremism on all sides.

One being the fact that Jewish racial supremacism needs to be called out just like the other 2 forms of racism among whites and blacks.
There is a big deflection going on which labels anyone among both whites and blacks who calls out Jewish racial supremacism as themselves racist. This is just childish stupidity and a pre-mature assumption that is more often than not incorrect.
We have the media and fake history to thank for that.

Racism within the fold of Judaism is a very common thing and is a fact, its even a big aspect of Orthodox Judaism but never openly admitted but always finally and regretfully indirectly admitted if you talk long enough about it with those who practice the Orthodox version or versions of Judaism.

Racism in all its forms needs to be put an end to, yes INCLUDING within Judaism.
Jewish supremacists are not above being called out for their racism.
This fact must become mainstream in order for the racist issue to be dealt with in earnest at all.

White Supremacism is definitely bad, yep, but it ain't the only form of it that is active and alive my brothers.
 
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Well, ultimately if we can get all the nonsense racist extremist insanity to end among Jews, Caucasians AND Blacks then we can actually start to have some dialogue. Until then it will all remain emotional shouting and outbursts. The problem is that the loudest voices among all 3 groups are all the racist ones and not the deeper thinkers who are not racist but who are actually aware of the issues at hand and wanting to tangibly solve them.
There are a series of issues that people need to be allowed and encouraged to openly discuss to eliminate this extremism on all sides.

One being the fact that Jewish racial supremacism needs to be called out just like the other 2 forms of racism among whites and blacks.
There is a big deflection going on which labels anyone among both whites and blacks who calls out Jewish racial supremacism as themselves racist. This is just childish stupidity and a pre-mature assumption that is more often than not incorrect.
We have the media and fake history to thank for that.

Racism within the fold of Judaism is a very common thing and is a fact, its even a big aspect of Orthodox Judaism but never openly admitted but always finally and regretfully indirectly admitted if you talk long enough about it with those who practice the Orthodox version or versions of Judaism.

Racism in all its forms needs to be put an end to, yes INCLUDING within Judaism.
Jewish supremacists are not above being called out for their racism.
This fact must become mainstream in order for the racist issue to be dealt with in earnest at all.

White Supremacism is definitely bad, yep, but it ain't the only form of it that is active and alive my brothers.

What a pile of crap.
 
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The GOOD PEOPLE made a visit to Charlottsville last night:
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White Nationalists Reappear in Charlottesville in Torch-Lit Protest

The prominent white supremacist Richard B. Spencer was a featured speaker at a rally on Saturday in Charlottesville, Va., where demonstrators reprised their chant of “You will not replace us!” and asserted that the South would “rise again.”

The gathering, which occurred eight weeks after a “Unite the Right” rally resulted in the death of a 32-year-old woman, was considerably smaller than the one in August, instead resembling a group of protesters who descended on the park in May.

The Charlottesville Police Department said in a statement that Saturday’s rally began around 7:40 p.m., included 40 to 50 people and lasted no more than 10 minutes.

“No disorders occurred during this rally,” the police said. Mr. Spencer then boarded a bus, which was followed by police officers “to ensure that the group was leaving the city,” according to the statement.

It added, “Our department is conferring with city leadership and the Commonwealth Attorney’s Office to determine what legal action may be taken in response to this event.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/us/richard-spencer-charlottesville.html?_r=0
 

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While no one can predict the future, what do you think/feel will be the be all/end all of this current situation?

They will continue spouting all their nonsense about racial supremacy and getting covered in the media (by other non-specified racists who control the media) while those of us who try to intellectually cover very important topics get erroneously bunched in with those fools and never get any media coverage as usual.

Fuck Richard Spencer and the like. Its guys like that which drown out the media outlets with their racial superiority bullshit.
They do that so no other valid points can ever be discussed. Right into the globalists game.

They will continue being used as tools by other racists on the other side who are just as bad as them.
Racists of every ethnicity should be thrown out of America to clean up house.
The so-called "alt-right" is a farce.

What will likely continue is that everyone will continue getting censored when calling out any other people among any other ethnic group that are also racist.
If this thread was titled "The Black Supremacist outcome" or any other people among any other ethnic group it would be deleted for being a "racist" post and "hate speech" Again, why the double standards?
THESE are the double standards which will continue.
That will be the outcome of all the white supremacist bullshit. It will continue adding fuel to the already censored society we live in.
 

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Fuck Richard Spencer and the like. Its guys like that which drown out the media outlets with their racial superiority bullshit.

And odd choice of words... "drown out"? As far as I know that phrase means an agent being so loud, literally or figuratively, that other agents are unable to express their own POV. I think it's safe to say that the Spencerites are not doing this. They don't have the power to do that in themselves. Rather, what is happening is that the media is eating their shit up and fixating on it. If anything the MSM's narrative of the Alt-Righters being evil dangerous Nazis who pose a real threat of a "fascist" takeover is what is drowning out more sensible perspectives. This is not the doing of the Spencerites, though I'm sure they're getting something out of it.

They do that so no other valid points can ever be discussed.

There aren't any other valid points in the eyes of the of those who eat up the MSM's perspective. We're already in the beginning stages of a takeover by Nazis in the form of the Trump administration, and if you don't see it that way you're either an ignorant moron or a "fascist" yourself.

Racists of every ethnicity should be thrown out of America to clean up house.

Yeah man, fuck the First Amendment!
 
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The GOOD PEOPLE made a visit to Charlottsville last night:
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White Nationalists Reappear in Charlottesville in Torch-Lit Protest

The prominent white supremacist Richard B. Spencer was a featured speaker at a rally on Saturday in Charlottesville, Va., where demonstrators reprised their chant of “You will not replace us!” and asserted that the South would “rise again.”

The gathering, which occurred eight weeks after a “Unite the Right” rally resulted in the death of a 32-year-old woman, was considerably smaller than the one in August, instead resembling a group of protesters who descended on the park in May.

The Charlottesville Police Department said in a statement that Saturday’s rally began around 7:40 p.m., included 40 to 50 people and lasted no more than 10 minutes.

“No disorders occurred during this rally,” the police said. Mr. Spencer then boarded a bus, which was followed by police officers “to ensure that the group was leaving the city,” according to the statement.

It added, “Our department is conferring with city leadership and the Commonwealth Attorney’s Office to determine what legal action may be taken in response to this event.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/08/us/richard-spencer-charlottesville.html?_r=0

Some commentary, perhaps? What is the point of this post, beyond the obvious topical relation?
 

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And odd choice of words... "drown out"? As far as I know that phrase means an agent being so loud, literally or figuratively, that other agents are unable to express their own POV. I think it's safe to say that the Spencerites are not doing this. They don't have the power to do that in themselves. Rather, what is happening is that the media is eating their shit up and fixating on it. If anything the MSM's narrative of the Alt-Righters being evil dangerous Nazis who pose a real threat of a "fascist" takeover is what is drowning out more sensible perspectives. This is not the doing of the Spencerites, though I'm sure they're getting something out of it.



There aren't any other valid points in the eyes of the of those who eat up the MSM's perspective. We're already in the beginning stages of a takeover by Nazis in the form of the Trump administration, and if you don't see it that way you're either an ignorant moron or a "fascist" yourself.



Yeah man, fuck the First Amendment!

Yes, that is what I meant by "drowning out", that the media is fixating on them wholly and entirely. The media is drowning reasonable argument out not the Spencerites. They are doing that so that no educated, reasonable (and actually non-racist views) opposed to the financial takeover of our country etc. can ever be heard.

The second half of the post was "liberal"-natured statement parody. Of course we should not and can not throw people out of the country for having unpopular views and that was my point there. But I think you caught on to that one.
Like you said, in the eyes of the mass of the public and mainstream media if we have any opposing view to the insanely liberal propaganda and we happen to be Caucasian somehow that automatically makes us a supremacist of some kind.
The Alt Right folks do not help the issue at all.
In my opinion I think Richard Spencer is likely an insider operative of some sort, perhaps for the CIA to determine what the public's perspective is of any alternate views. He fits the public's racial supremacist stereotype so perfectly it almost seems like he is getting paid to play that role behind the scenes by those who run the media.
Obviously to control the narrative.

The interviews I watched of him disgusted me. That kind of open coverage just doesn't happen these days unless one is playing into an already expected social narrative. His narrative is obviously the stereotype white supremacist. He seems to see it as comical what he is doing in making everyone hate him to the core and playing into the narrative that is mainly what disgusted me.
After watching his interviews I thought: "Here we go, yet again"

When will the public ever learn.
 

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His narrative is obviously the stereotype white supremacist.

Mmmm. No, and here is a point that the MSM has been getting right. Spencer presents a hip and clever, reformed type of White identitarianism that he very effectively differentiates, in format at least, from the White supremacy of ye olde KKK and the like. Whether he genuinely believes he's different is so far up to personal judgment, but his format and presentation are quite different, and any informed coverage of him will touch on that point. It's precisely one of the reasons he's presented as being so dangerous, because his format is believed to be more palatable to youngsters.
 
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Mmmm. No, and here is a point that the MSM has been getting right. Spencer presents a hip and clever, reformed type of White identitarianism that he very effectively differentiates, in format at least, from the White supremacy of ye olde KKK and the like. Whether he genuinely believes he's different is so far up to personal judgment, but his format and presentation are quite different, and any informed coverage of him will touch on that point. It's precisely one of the reasons he's presented as being so dangerous, because his format is believed to be more palatable to youngsters.

Yes, I can see that is what is mainly being marketed. What I am referring to are his vocalized ideals are stereotype white supremacist ones and not "new or hip" in any way at all. Just the same old stuff, different day.
The "hip" persona doesn't go very far. But that's probably because I can see through stuff like that so quickly while most may not be able to. I just do not see how anyone with a rational mind can agree with his openly racist views without themselves already being racist.
Otherwise those views will simply turn everybody else off entirely.