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Discussion in 'Politics' started by D_N Flay Table, Oct 16, 2008.
so.. Who won?
McCain came out swinging, but after 30 mins he became increasingly more uncomfortable. I mean the guy was turning red at some points.
Obama was one cool customer.
McCain was good at the beginning, but Obama picked up steam and was on top once hit his stride.
Doesn't matter, nothing major happened to affect the GE that much. People have made up their minds by now, and it would take a live boy or a dead girl to fuck this up.
I accidentally voted for McCain... oops!
McCain once again had wide open opportunities to trounce Obama, and he folded. Its difficult to believe that this was the best offering the Repubs could manufacture. This reminds me of a point-shaver in college basketball.
It seems too easy for the Dems. For your sake, I hope you don't fumble this election. I'll even be embarrassed if the human corpse wins this one.
McCain looked better than the previous debates, but ultimately he just comes across as uncomfortable and pissed off. Obama is one cool cat. I would have loved for him to take a poke at McCain, especially after McCain's cheesy line about Obama should have run against Bush in '04 instead of himself today. When McCain talked about Palin was "ready" to be President, I nearly fell off the sofa. I expected Tina Fey to walk out from behind him at that moment an say "Live from New York..."
Well I can tell you who lost...the citizens of the USA :tragedy:
I watched the Phillies beat the Dodgers 5-1 to earn a trip to the World Series. I don't think I missed much in the debate, sounds like McCain came off as McCain and Obama came off as Obama and neither has a real solution for "Amerika". I may not even waste my time voting in Nov 2008.
They already lost 8 years ago.
Now that's down right blasphamy!
Try not to make the same error next month at the polls.
I think Marcia did much better than Greg in the debate (I watched an old episode of The Brady Bunch)
24 - 4 so far and one of them was an accidental for McCain. So really 25 - 3. This after McCain clearly did better than the first debate where democrats on this very board said that he won. I guess the MSNBC/Daily Show/CNN/SNL brainwashing is working extremely well.
As an objective observer who voted for Bill Clinton and GW Bush, I say that McCain won the first debate, lost the second, and trounced Obama in this one. Obama's plans sound good to your average uninformed voter, but we shouldn't be voting for someone because the plan sounds good. We need to know what will really work and what won't. Raising taxes on small business owners that hire employees is not going to work on the eve of a depression.
The only way I can see this being acceptable to voters is either ignorance or envy.
The fact that Obama has been flat out lying on many things including his connections with Ayres and Acorn (which his campaign keeps changing as new information comes to light), I would say that Obama is most definitely counting on voter ignorance this election.
And the way his entire campaign is focused around a 95% tax cut (which BTW means a HUUUUUUGE tax increase for the other 5%) and the $250,000/year magic numbers, AND THE FACT THAT ON TWO OCCASIONS (one being in the 2nd debate) BARACK HAS CALLED TAX CUTS ON THE WEALTHY (small business owners, i.e. employers), UNFAIR, I think it is clear that Obama is is counting on class envy/jealousy this election too.
It's a real shame that this election has come to this, and that we can't just count on intelligent people to make responsible decisions that will help all of America. Instead we have to count on the networks to keep pounding misinformation to uninformed voters in hopes to get them to believe that the rich are bad people and their lifestyle is unfair, and that they need to be punished by big governement with ultra high taxes - completely ignoring the historically proven results of this kind of action, which is based on nothing more than class warfare.
It's all a smokescreen for the REAL motive - to create a socialist America with a HUGE big brother government that will run everything, effectively giving all the power to those in charge of it. Do we really want that?
And he does seem happy Joe
Don't let that happen at the polls please
Mcain and Bush have atleast one confessed agreement, elequance isnt a sign of education but, its a trick to make republicans look bad.
I think its obvious why Mcain supporters dont support Obama, same reason Bush suporrters wouldnt.
Do you write right-wing blogs for a living? You managed to hit like 6 solid talking points int here, at least.
I'm not going to even try to debunk everything you have there, you're a lost cause. If you ask, I will, sources and all, though. I'm a nice guy.
I gotta say, as it started McCain did the better job for the first 10/15 minutes but after that he started to slip big time and by the end of the whole thing he looked like a grouchy old man who was one step away from shouting "you medelling kids".
Obama played it cool as per usual and he very clearly won the debate.
yes i also have been seeing this from as hubby calls him [McSOB] if the guy cant even hold his own temp, for a few min, debate how can he ever compose him self to be pres, [GOD FORBIDE IT EVER HAPPENS] when he is meeting with some world leaders and they dont agree with him. is he going to make stupid faces and grind his teeth into saw dust like he has been doing? i dont think we need someone like that to be pres, of the united states, as we have seen how the bush and company has along with mccaine has united us, we have been made to look like an ass to most of our alies, as well as never being able to even try to make new ones because of his childlike ways. he is a baby who should not have ever had the election given to him, and yes i belive it was given but that is a whole other thread that is usless to talk about now, just glad the sob is going to be out soon. i only hope his twin brother dont take his place.