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Discussion in 'Politics' started by D_N Flay Table, Oct 2, 2008.
Who do you think won the VP debate?
What timezone are you in? It's not over yet.
Just thought I would get the ball rolling.
Biden, for stream of conciousness, common sense, from the voice of experiance. Palin's answers ALL reeked of rehearsal, and i believe that even as she addressed questions, she was referencing CLIFF notes on her podium!
i voted unsure... cause I thought it was rather split.
Ifill was fair during the moderation... but the choice of questions... purely liberal.
Help a brotha out here, what would a CONSERVATIVE line of questioning have sounded like??!!
good question, Palin was doing well but then Biden started to cry, so it's a toss up
At least Palin didn't put her heel in her mouth, but Biden answered questions..very well...and she just regurgitated talking points.
Still, it was a better debate overall than the first Pres debaate, I would want to watch these two debate again.
No clear winner, but Biden did respond with more clarity and constantly dogged McCain.
Also, as I predicted the other day, Palin did not crash and burn.
Palin didn't answer the questions. In my book thats a loss...
I will admit, Palin did very well. I thought she came on strong on the energy points. But then the foreign policy questions came along and Palin looked like a
"caribou in the headlights"....repeating talking points and saying "aww shucks I am an outsider"...a real turnoff for me.
So yeah Palin was good, but Biden did better.
She called progressive tax policy "class warfare". You have to be shitting me.
and let's not forget that she thought Dick Cheny has done a great job of re-defining the Vice Presidency AND thinks that the VP should be given even more "authority." Truthfully --- because she had to go FIRST in answering that question it was no wonder she totally blew it. In fact -- I taped the debate and plan to re-watch it. Each time it was her turn to go first she really just answered the question she wanted to (didn't even address any "achilles" heel faults)...........and when she had to go 2nd, hardly any original thoughts to ADD to the discussion, just more of the "talking points" they've been hammering away at for weeks.
They both said "God bless you" during a political debate.
They both said "no" to gay marriage.
Calvin Coolidge won. Case Closed!
Neither answered the questions, so it came down to personality.
And Biden won. Both with the choke up, and with the "never question your opponent's motives"
His voice was soft, calm and cool. Hers was ratcheted and desperate.
She won the expectations game, but still lost the debate.
I agree NE.
However...Understanding why Biden had to be careful not to appear too aggressive with Palin, which is the topic for a seperate thread, I do wish that when she stated that part of the McCain/Palin platform included the protection of women's rights, he had confronted her with the assumption of that including a women's right to choose.
Whatever... debate is rhetroic vs actions. Me thinks... er knows you watched with blue colored glasses.
the more I think about it... the more I want Obama to win (sans the Supreme Court Ginsberg-like picks).
wait until interest rates go thru the roof... ARMs get called... and so forth. the $700B bailout isn't going to fix shit... it's to prevent an economy.
Obama will inherit a disastrous economy... and blaming Halliburton won't work 16 months in. I'm already seeing financial advisory strategies to "Obama proof" your portfolio... the deserved wealth will find their ways to protect their well-earned wealth. There will be no revenue for tax-backed programs to buy out middle America foolishly entered into the millions of ARM mortgages that haven't even hit the street yet. Yowza. This is Hurricane Ike... with Katrina backing him up months later.
The current GOP is the most liberal lack-of-foundtation in decades. They need a good reset button.
4 and done, and everyone with their "Got Obama?" "Got Rights?" "GoBama" bumper stickers will start quietly peeling them off circa late 2009... as the bulk of his presidency is spent under a 50% approval rating.
corrected for accuracy
Palin clearly was thrown by the question about same-sex benefits. She kept repeating the word "tolerance" which i'm sure will bring forth many more gay voters.