Who repressed Americas locker rooms?

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by ashlar+Jun 22 2005, 04:57 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ashlar &#064; Jun 22 2005, 04:57 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-madame_zora@Jun 22 2005, 03:50 PM

Yeah, the trend toward male pleasantness comes right from the Bible. Jesus was a nomad who travelled through the desert with a bunch of guys and a used up whore. Everybody knows this, so why then to we try to turn him into something he was not? Sure he was persecuted, he was free&#33; Nobody likes it when someone actually lives the life they choose and encourages you to do the same.

The judgemental attitudes of those we now know as fundies are completely antithetical, and are in fact the very things that angered Jesus about the Pharisees. But, for the love of God and all things holy, let&#39;s not discuss THAT&#33; "Love one another shit" is now faggy, well it did come from Jesus, so I guess we could blame him.

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Hmmm ... Perhaps we should invent antifundimentalisim.

The Light Christianity.
All the flavor, half the calories of fundimentalist christianity.

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It is out there. It is called mainline Protestant Christianity. The United Church of Christ, The Unitarian and the Episcopal Churches being the leading ones. The the Pressbyterians, some Lutherans and the United Methodist Church comes next. The Methodist Church has in the south some fundie members as fundieism reigns supreme in these parts.

The problem with some of these churches is they have a great theology but a BORING worship service.

 

[KinkGuy]

To recap:

Less and less fathers at home teaching and mentoring the art of being "male."
The women&#39;s movement feminizing everything. Men are monsters.
Few if any remaining all male environments, so a men&#39;s locker room is alien.
Coed absolutely everything in public schools.
Television.....ever seen a smart father on TV? Since Cosby (who was pussyfied)?
Lawyers who will sue anybody for anything, anytime. (M Jackson notwithstanding).
Advertising.....nuff said.
Title 9 being miss-applied.

Homosexuality? Research shows there are not that many 1&#39;s.
Two men in love is the end of the civilized world, but killing people for oil is okeedokee. As long as it doesn&#39;t happen here, it&#39;s all good.
The argument can be made that all this fag hating bullshit is just to cover up their own insecurities, desires and actions. Smokescreen of monumental proportions.

Clinton? He fucked an intern. (ok, he cheated on his wife and that IS a sin) but that makes men lockeroom shy?

Men and women ARE inherently different. And, somehow in this age,
that became wrong.

It isn&#39;t serving women well either.

 

[DadsAreUs]

Originally posted by Dr Rock+Jun 22 2005, 03:25 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Jun 22 2005, 03:25 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Dude&#33;@Jun 22 2005, 03:11 PM
there&#39;s no need for that is there

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oh, isn&#39;t there

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Yes, there is. Thanks, Doc.

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by KinkGuy@Jun 23 2005, 12:25 AM
The women&#39;s movement feminizing everything. Men are monsters.

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I hate that shit. it only detracts from those of us who really ARE monsters :grr:

 

[KinkGuy]

Some monsters are certainly better than others.

 

[jonb]

Yeah, well, just remember, the "goddess" people can claim that black-and-white thinking&#39;s a male behavior, but it&#39;s a sign of a mental disorder which just happens to occur twice as often in women as in men.

 

[Dude!]

Originally posted by jonb@Jun 24 2005, 02:13 AM
Yeah, well, just remember, the "goddess" people can claim that black-and-white thinking&#39;s a male behavior, but it&#39;s a sign of a mental disorder which just happens to occur twice as often in women as in men.

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What do you mean?

 

[jonb]

Borderline personality disorder. The APA actually has a disclaimer that right-wingers only pretend to be borderline and aren&#39;t really.

 

[Pecker]

Originally posted by jonb@Jun 24 2005, 07:20 PM
Borderline personality disorder. The APA actually has a disclaimer that right-wingers only pretend to be borderline and aren&#39;t really.

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So if a person is not a liberal he has a biologically based brain disorder?

jonb, you must have a deep-seated hatred of the color red.

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by Pecker@Jun 25 2005, 02:02 AM
So if a person is not a liberal he has a biologically based brain disorder?

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well it&#39;s certainly easier to believe than the idea that someone would WILLINGLY identify themselves as conservative...

 

[absinthium]

Originally posted by Dr Rock+Jun 24 2005, 11:21 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Jun 24 2005, 11:21 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Pecker@Jun 25 2005, 02:02 AM
So if a person is not a liberal he has a biologically based brain disorder?

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well it&#39;s certainly easier to believe than the idea that someone would WILLINGLY identify themselves as conservative...

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Well, if it&#39;s possible for all those fags to CHOOSE to be gay...


Cos you know they all do, right?

 

[absinthium]

Originally posted by Dr Rock+Jun 23 2005, 04:04 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dr Rock &#064; Jun 23 2005, 04:04 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-KinkGuy@Jun 23 2005, 12:25 AM
The women&#39;s movement feminizing everything. Men are monsters.

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I hate that shit. it only detracts from those of us who really ARE monsters :grr:

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Oh, PLEASE, like you&#39;re not getting recognition. Frigging egomaniac.

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by absinthium+Jun 25 2005, 06:14 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(absinthium &#064; Jun 25 2005, 06:14 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Dr Rock@Jun 23 2005, 04:04 AM
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@Jun 23 2005, 12:25 AM
The women&#39;s movement feminizing everything.  Men are monsters.

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I hate that shit. it only detracts from those of us who really ARE monsters :grr:

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Oh, PLEASE, like you&#39;re not getting recognition. Frigging egomaniac.

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*shivers with fright at the thought of Dr Rock&#39;s monster*

 

[madame_zora]

Originally posted by Pecker+Jun 25 2005, 02:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pecker &#064; Jun 25 2005, 02:02 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-jonb@Jun 24 2005, 07:20 PM
Borderline personality disorder. The APA actually has a disclaimer that right-wingers only pretend to be borderline and aren&#39;t really.

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So if a person is not a liberal he has a biologically based brain disorder?

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Well in a way, yes. If you mean by "liberal" that we keep our country FREE to everyone to enjoy their rights, then yes. Unfortunately not being liberal right now means you believe in limiting the rights of others who don&#39;t think like you and that makes you a whackoid. Remember bush only decided the war was about freedom AFTER he discovered there were no wmds. I can accept his backpeddling, he&#39;s covering his ass, but for anyone else to agree with him is evidence of deep seated problems.

 

[BobLeeSwagger]

Originally posted by madame_zora+Jun 25 2005, 12:26 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(madame_zora &#064; Jun 25 2005, 12:26 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Pecker@Jun 25 2005, 02:02 AM
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@Jun 24 2005, 07:20 PM
Borderline personality disorder. The APA actually has a disclaimer that right-wingers only pretend to be borderline and aren&#39;t really.

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So if a person is not a liberal he has a biologically based brain disorder?

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Well in a way, yes. If you mean by "liberal" that we keep our country FREE to everyone to enjoy their rights, then yes. Unfortunately not being liberal right now means you believe in limiting the rights of others who don&#39;t think like you and that makes you a whackoid. Remember bush only decided the war was about freedom AFTER he discovered there were no wmds. I can accept his backpeddling, he&#39;s covering his ass, but for anyone else to agree with him is evidence of deep seated problems.

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I don&#39;t think anyone uses that as a definition of "liberal" anymore. I don&#39;t think being anti-civil rights makes someone mentally disturbed. To call them that just absolves them of responsibility. Selfish powermongers who don&#39;t care about others can come in any political stripe.


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[jonb]

Originally posted by Pecker@Jun 24 2005, 06:02 PM
So if a person is not a liberal he has a biologically based brain disorder?

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See what I mean? Black-and-white worldview. I said right-wing politics and you assumed "not a liberal", even though there are more than two ideologies.

BTW, if you think government without the consent of the governed is a Good Thing, you probably are crazy. (Look up the definition of liberal.)

 

[txquis]

Society moves in extreme directions...
The obvious direction to move in after the sexual revolution,
is back to prudery and victorian modesty.

And then it will swing back the other way again.
We are just going through the "i need my prudish personal space"
time period.

I dont think it has much to do with the Bible, either...

But, i havent been to any Christian nude beaches

 

[Freddie53]

Originally posted by txquis@Jun 26 2005, 08:32 AM
Society moves in extreme directions...
The obvious direction to move in after the sexual revolution,
is back to prudery and victorian modesty.

And then it will swing back the other way again.
We are just going through the "i need my prudish personal space"
time period.

I dont think it has much to do with the Bible, either...

But, i havent been to any Christian nude beaches

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True, but during the Renaissance, the Catholic Church was a leading sponsor and certainly did not discourage the flowering of the Reniasiance paintings.

Of course, Roman Catholicism and fundieland Christianity are not the same on world views and political outlook, not even close except on the issue of abortion and that is about it.

 

[Dr Rock]

Originally posted by ChimeraTX@Jun 27 2005, 06:37 PM
You can choose to be a liberal, just like you can choose to be a conservative.

yes, but the difference is that conservative politics are the politics of greed, fear and denial ... whereas liberal politics are merely about greed.

Then there&#39;s always the fact that there is little to no difference between the two anyways.

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there&#39;s no real, practical difference between any one brand of politics and any other; the arbitrary distinctions serve purely for the purpose of debate. that&#39;s okay; some people like to debate about star wars or cartoon characters. it&#39;s when people start taking this kinda stuff seriously and trying to apply it to the real world that the trouble starts.

 

[absinthium]

Originally posted by txquis@Jun 26 2005, 09:32 AM
Society moves in extreme directions...
The obvious direction to move in after the sexual revolution,
is back to prudery and victorian modesty.

And then it will swing back the other way again.
We are just going through the "i need my prudish personal space"
time period.

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I&#39;ve been saying this all along... It&#39;s all so cyclical. We&#39;ll get sick of the prudishness eventually, and things will become more open again. It&#39;s this constant wax and wane that keeps things in balance.