Why are bottoms against fucking vers dudes?

[Onlyonly]

What do you mean by that exactly?

This part
“everyone wants to fuck and get fucked and it's due to internalised homophobia that you top only or being selfish why you bottom only. Which is not the caseI met some bottoms who legit can't top to save their lives and it has nothing to do with the dick size.”

It’s not the case for everyone but it’s a reoccurring theme

 

[DSF140]

The reality is that from listening to a lot of bottoms, they always say that when someone labels himself as "versitile" , it means that he's really a bottom but internalized homophobia won't allow him to admit it to himself. Secondly, these same bottoms don't want to encounter someone who might want to be dicked in return. Since the bottom likes only to be fucked, he cannot comprehend when someone truly likes both. So in their minds, "versitile" means closet case bottom, because in their minds, that's all they know. Yes, it's an evil and petty world out there.
There's too many other cool guys out there, so I won't even bother with a bitchy bottom who has a laundry list of what is acceptable. It's about as offensive as the guy with racial requirements or dick size requirements.

 

[find83]

Ah ok Gotcha. True the problem is a lot of gay men project. I personally don't bottom because I don't like it. It has nothing do do with thinking bottoms are less than a man. Also like what you were saying a lot of guys lie about their preferences. They say they are total tops but bottom for the first big dick they see or they say they are vers but them meet up with bottoms and them want to get fucked. Hooking up is always a surprise

 

[Onlyonly]

The reality is that from listening to a lot of bottoms, they always say that when someone labels himself as "versitile" , it means that he's really a bottom but internalized homophobia won't allow him to admit it to himself. Secondly, these same bottoms don't want to encounter someone who might want to be dicked in return. Since the bottom likes only to be fucked, he cannot comprehend when someone truly likes both. So in their minds, "versitile" means closet case bottom, because in their minds, that's all they know. Yes, it's an evil and petty world out there.
There's too many other cool guys out there, so I won't even bother with a bitchy bottom who has a laundry list of what is acceptable. It's about as offensive as the guy with racial requirements or dick size requirements.

That’s very helpful. Thanks

 

[find83]

The reality is that from listening to a lot of bottoms, they always say that when someone labels himself as "versitile" , it means that he's really a bottom but internalized homophobia won't allow him to admit it to himself. Secondly, these same bottoms don't want to encounter someone who might want to be dicked in return. Since the bottom likes only to be fucked, he cannot comprehend when someone truly likes both. So in their minds, "versitile" means closet case bottom, because in their minds, that's all they know. Yes, it's an evil and petty world out there.
There's too many other cool guys out there, so I won't even bother with a bitchy bottom who has a laundry list of what is acceptable. It's about as offensive as the guy with racial requirements or dick size requirements.

Totally agree but it does happen so you can't always blame bottoms for being apprehensive but like you said I have met some down right selfish ass bottoms

 

[902369]

Tops aren’t against fucking vers dudes.
Tops don’t have anything against fucking anyone who has a nice ass. Idk what tops you’ve encountered.

And I have asked tops to bottom for me and they have. Whether that makes them vers or a top who gets fucked every once in a while, Ian not really an issue lol

But I feel like bottoms limit themselves cuz they want a total top and are always claiming there are no tops around... if you love a dick up your ass why can’t the dude next to you?

Your points are valid, I may not agree with them but they’re valid.

Some are against it because look at what find83 said with versatile guys asking him from time to time to fuck him in the ass even when he’s not interested. I would imagine that this would
Make someone who’s only interested in topping say things like “no vers” on their gay app.
I think we can agree that versatile men expect everyone to be versatile. This isn’t realistic.

 

[Onlyonly]

Totally agree but it does happen so you can't always blame bottoms for being apprehensive but like you said I have met some down right selfish ass bottoms

I usually ignore those bottoms. I’m fucking you, why does it matter if I’m masc or not? Or if Ive been fucked before? You’re the one getting fucked now so shut up and take it lol

I’ve also haven’t dated in a while. I’ve just hooked up or had fuckbuddies so I’m looking st it from that perspective. Not so much “dating”

 

[Onlyonly]

Some are against it because look at what find83 said with versatile guys asking him from time to time to fuck him in the ass even when he’s not interested. I would imagine that this would
Make someone who’s only interested in topping say things like “no vers” on their gay app.
I think we can agree that versatile men expect everyone to be versatile. This isn’t realistic.

I don’t expect everyone to be versatile.
I expect my versatility to not affect our fuck session or even just meeting.

There are assholes in every position (top, vers or bottom)

 

[Onlyonly]

Assholes as in douchebags. Didn’t mean to make that pun lol

 

[902369]

I don’t expect everyone to be versatile.
I expect my versatility to not affect our fuck session or even just meeting.

There are assholes in every position (top, vers or bottom)

That’s fine you don’t, but a lot do and opinions are made because of this.

 

[find83]

I don’t expect everyone to be versatile.
I expect my versatility to not affect our fuck session or even just meeting.

There are assholes in every position (top, vers or bottom)

Preach heheh

 

[Onlyonly]

That’s fine you don’t, but a lot do and opinions are made because of this.

I mean the same can be said about your opinion lol

 

[DSF140]

There's also insanity in some if the "total tops" I know. They think that any guy with a good looking face must be a bottom. And any guy with a small body, like myself, must be a bottom.
But I'm like @find83 . I simply do not like to bottom because it is uncomfortable, to say the least. And I find it a huge compliment when someone begs me to fuck them. But I won't fuck them if they are a selfish jerk.

 

[902369]

I mean the same can be said about your opinion lol

But mine is true. Versatile means you like to top and bottom. Bottom means you like to bottom, so where is the lie?

 

[Onlyonly]

But mine is true. Versatile means you like to top and bottom. Bottom means you like to bottom, so where is the lie?

Didn’t mean that opinion in specifically but other things you’ve said but let’s not go off rails. It has been insightful. Thanks for your participation (idk what the right word to use is lol)

 

[902369]

Didn’t mean that opinion in specifically but other things you’ve said but let’s not go off rails. It has been insightful. Thanks for your participation (idk what the right word to use is lol)

Cool. This thread and it’s responses reminded me of people who say they personally don’t do something yet don’t take into account the majority of people that actually do it. Like:

“I’m versatile and I don’t expect my bottom partners to top me” - when the majority of versatile men expect this. Or:

“I’m bisexual and date other men” - when the majority of bisexual men don’t date other men.

You can’t have minority opinions represent the majority.

 

[Onlyonly]

Cool. This thread and it’s responses reminded me of people who say they personally don’t do something yet don’t take into account the majority of people that actually do it. Like:

“I’m versatile and I don’t expect my bottom partners to top me” - when the majority of versatile men expect this. Or:

“I’m bisexual and date other men” - when the majority of bisexual men don’t date other men.

You can’t have minority opinions represent the majority.

I can have my experiences represent myself which is what I thought I was doing.
Our experiences are different. I’m vers so I don’t interact with a lot of tops, you do. But that doesn’t mean that it makes my opinion a minority or invalid. Which is how you’re coming off now. “Shut up about it cuz you’re one out of ten who does this therefore it doesn’t even matter” - you’re discouraging people from speaking about their experiences and wanting to get insight.

 

[find83]

There's also insanity in some if the "total tops" I know. They think that any guy with a good looking face must be a bottom. And any guy with a small body, like myself, must be a bottom.
But I'm like @find83 . I simply do not like to bottom because it is uncomfortable, to say the least. And I find it a huge compliment when someone begs me to fuck them. But I won't fuck them if they are a selfish jerk.

Oh I get the small body thing I'm only 5'6 and they always get guys trying to sell me on bottoming. I'm like shut up and turn around

 

[Onlyonly]

Oh I get the small body thing I'm only 5'6 and they always get guys trying to sell me on bottoming. I'm like shut up and turn around

I’m 5’5”. They ask me to bottom until I start fucking them. I don’t mind it though cuz it doesn’t happen often. But again I usually don’t have sex with tops cuz I’m usually the top lol I usually fuck vers or bottoms obviously

 

[DSF140]

And I also get a lot of shit because I say that I like both hot guys and hot chicks, but my desire for men is a lot stronger than that for women. 100% gay guys, especially, tell me that I'm basically lying to myself. They can't comprehend that I'm "versital-gay" with regards to gender.