Why are circumcision cultures more violent?

[B_dxjnorto]

Lol.. nobody has even said babies should be circumcised. So unsolicited inflammatory remarks about others genitalia is an attack.

Hmm. Somehow I think the two are related.

 

[CURVEDANDTHICKK]

Circumcision cuts STD risk, major study finds - Men's Health - MSNBC.com

The anti circ crowd will foam at the mouth after reading this.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

It's sad that 21st researchers still manufacture reasons to continue this backward cultural practice.

Circumcision message bowled at Otago University, NZ

 

[ActionBuddy]

Circumcision cuts STD risk, major study finds - Men's Health - MSNBC.com

The anti circ crowd will foam at the mouth after reading this.

Hardly could muster a *yawn* for it, C&T.

 

[Lordpendragon]

IMO circumcision is just one of many forms of Body modification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia from an anthropological pov.

Originally I think it was a rites of passage test in Africa as still practiced (though Africa has not been mentioned here - save Egypt). I think it came to our culture through the Nubians of Egypt. Moses (ex Egypt) changed it to a covenant with their God and this is another common purpose of body modification - a type of group branding. Islam has different reasons and the majority of modern proponents post Kellog are looking for a medical rational.

Why don't we remove the appendix?

The Wikipedia article on circumcision is weak.

 

[dreamer20]

Clearly, in such harsh circumstances, you have to discipline people. You do so by cutting off their most sensitive, fragile part, their foreskin. It's like saying: "don't think you're free, obey our hard rules, because we're watching you - remember, we have cut you before, we can do it again."...
...from deserts to circumcision, to circonscription, lack of freedom and ultimately violence - it's not a big step.

The Reason for Circumcision:

Circumcision was not the basis of the religion, johnschlong , it was a religious rite that originated in Ancient Egypt. It was not a form of punishment either. The practice of this rite indicated that the cult of Yahweh/Baal Peor was a Phallic cult. It represented a sacrifice of part of the male's most prized possession to the deity. The Hebrew Patriarch Abraham adopted this custom and added the spurious tale that God had told him that the land of Canaan belonged to him and his dynasty, although it was already occupied by their kin and other tribes. See Genesis 17 v 10-14.

Other examples of the importance of the phallus to Yahweh as follows:
(a)Zipporah cast at the feet of the angry Yahweh the bloody foreskin of her son as an appeasement in Exodus 4 v 24-25.
(b)"No man who has been castrated or whose penis has been cut off may be included among the Lord's people." Deuteronomy 23 v 1.

All Ancient Egyptians did not practice circumcision. If they were members of the aforementioned phallic cults they would. The Hebrew culture formed from the elder Egyptian civilization which existed 2,000 years before these later peoples. The Hebrews adopted this practice and many other Egyptian customs long before the time of Moses.

 

[Lucky_Luke]

I'm probably not saying anything new, but I'm still interested in hearing your opinion on this matter. Why are so-called 'circumcision cultures' so violent?

Only three cultures mutilate the genitals of their female or male members:

-Islam
-Judaism
-Anglosaxon Protestantism

If you look at the conflicts of the past few decades, you see that precisely these cultures are the cause of most wars and massacres.

So why would this be so? The easy explanation is that these circumcision cultures are based on fundamentalist forms of monotheism. This hard, simplistic monotheism results in primitive rituals like circumcision (which is just a symbol of the religion, but a significant one - for those who know him, Derrida has written an famous philosophical piece on it - Circumfession), and more importantly, they are totalitarian and intolerant in their approach to others.

Is it a coincidence that only these cultures based on totalitarian desert religions circumcise their women and men?

Circumsicision is a long established custom in Canada.

Do you consider Canada to be a violent nation?

Methinks your ideology is getting ahead of your facts here.

 

[chico8]

Circumsicision is a long established custom in Canada.

Do you consider Canada to be a violent nation?

Methinks your ideology is getting ahead of your facts here.

RIC is not a long established practice in Canada, and the rate has dropped significantly in recent years to the point where only the hyper religious and fetishists are getting cut. However, I think Canada proves that the OP's premise is false. Canada is a pretty peaceful country although has sacrificed a lot of its people by helping to fight wars not of its making.

 

[B_big dirigible]

The Swiss?

You're kidding, right?

For three centuries the Swiss were the terror of the battlefields of Europe. They were pretty hot on massacring prisoners and the wounded, too. The Tuilleries (through Louis XVI's day) and the Vatican (even today) don't keep the Swiss Guard around for their skill at handicrafts or cooking. Thorvaldsen's monument carved into the cliff at Lucerne is dedicated to an incident which, in a more modest way, emulated the stand at Thermopylae.

You want non-violent, try the Nestorians. Never heard of them? That's because they were a bit too non-violent.