Why are conservatives so pretentious?

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Looks like no time has been wasted perfecting grammatical skill either.

Right. And where's you snappy response to this:

From what I recall, NUMEROUS people took their good time TRYING to explain that which you initially denied:
  • WHAT voter suppression laws effectively DO (i.e. their intent),
  • WHO they were deliberately designed to hurt,
  • WHY those voters were targeted,
  • HOW they are hurt by such laws, and
  • WHERE conservatives/Republicans closed up polling places and shortened voting hours
After which you reluctantly admitted, at least, to the INTENT by "SOME Republicans" to harm minority voters

WHILE, for all practical purposes, after having been presented with the FACTS, STILL rejecting HOW these people (who you called "theoretical") were disenfranchised and harmed by the laws.

Sounds familiar?



So, other than espousing some less than left-wing positions, what did Wilson_90 do to get banned?

Oh I get it.

The person who once wrote how AMUSED he was by an EX-member's creation of a PHONY account, deliberately designed to mock, malign, and mischaracterize yet another member here,

is now here to stir s---------------.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Carry on (as you, no doubt, will).
 
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https://www.lpsg.com/threads/why-are-conservatives-so-pretentious.497893/page-5#post-7092738

Actually, was a serious question.

And yes, I thought many of the IndustrialLies posts were hysterical, but that’s a separate issue.

Yeah, because there'd be nothing MORE "hysterical" than the prospect of a forum undermined and overwhelmed by a proliferation of phony parody accounts designed to mischaracterize, malign, and misrepresent the words and viewpoints of ACTUAL members.

Lotza laffs, eh?
 

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Yeah, because there'd be nothing MORE "hysterical" than the prospect of a forum undermined and overwhelmed by a proliferation of phony parody accounts designed to mischaracterize, malign, and misrepresent the words and viewpoints of ACTUAL members.

Lotza laffs, eh?

They were caricatures. Guess maybe too close to home for some?

Still don’t know what got Wilson90 banned.
 
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... phony parody accounts designed to mischaracterize, malign, and misrepresent...

Personally I prefer trolly satirical misrepresentation over being so polarized and paranoid that you're actually cognitively incapable of giving a fair hearing to anything your opponents say.
 

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Personally I prefer trolly satirical misrepresentation over being so polarized and paranoid that you're actually cognitively incapable of giving a fair hearing to anything your opponents say.
You can drop that particular line of s---------- bud because not only have I entertained (ahem) "given you fair hearing" what YOU'VE had to say, but I've on several occasions either paraphrased or quoted your EXACT words - and instead of refuting it, you've doubled down on them.

Did you not say AND later acknowledge your belief that people of different races function differently on a mental and intellectual level?

Did you not once profess an admiration for Richard Spencer?
 
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Judge. And jury.

Nice.

That's right. Each of us here express opinions, positions, and points of view. Others may in turn offer a rebuttal, criticism, or counterpoint. Conclusions are drawn upon what is said by all.

I think they call that a FORUM.

YOU and those of YOUR ilk do the same. How 'bout you stop being so PRETENTIOUS about it.
 
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You can drop that particular line of s----------

Kind of ironic...

bud because not only have I entertained (ahem) "given you fair hearing" what YOU'VE had to say

So you believe. I would disagree. I believe you've consistently made my words out to be what you want them to be, simply because they rub you the wrong way, rather than actually try to understand what I mean.

but I've on several occasions either paraphrased or quoted your EXACT words - and instead of refuting it, you've doubled down on them.

The most (in)famous example that you reference disproportionately more than anything else is "just want non-Whites gone". Whenever you reference this you suggest that this is a position I was defending as reasonable. Even though if you look at the context, I was merely trying to curb exaggeration of the Spencerite position (what good does an inaccurate perception of a doctrine ever do?), and also at the same time I numerous times explained that I morally disagreed with Mr. Spencer's proposition of incentivized deportation of non-Whites. So yes, in this main example you very much have mischaracterized what I was saying and the context it related to.

Did you not say AND later acknowledge your belief that people of different races function differently on a mental and intellectual level?

I don't believe I said it in such an absolute sense. You won't find a post where I say all East Asians think completely differently from all Europeans or anything of that sort. More so that there are convergences of genetic streams in one race and others in another, producing some variation in traits, not applying to the same extent in each individual, that lead to overall (not universal) differences in ways of thinking, emotional processing, behavior, spiritual tendencies, and so forth.

So yes, dig into me for that one if you wish. If you do, I would think it would only be fair to try to understand better precisely what I mean by it, and what I see as the consequences of this view. But it's worth pointing out that you cannot logically take it to mean that I believe in converting diverse societies into homogeneous ethnostates or in societal subjugation on a racial basis.

Did you not once profess an admiration for Richard Spencer?

Indeed, but there are multiple reasons why one may admire him. His precise views are not at the forefront of what I admire about him.
 
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So yes, in this main example you very much have mischaracterized what I was saying and the context it related to.

Kinda like what you did to me yesterday as you quoted my "Fuck free speech' without explaining it was a particular kind of speech I and many others object to.

Indeed, but there are multiple reasons why one may admire him.

Does the "freedom of speech" at LPSG allow sufficient attitude to state them or will you run afoul of the T.O.S.?
 

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So you believe. I would disagree. I believe you've consistently made my words out to be what you want them to be, simply because they rub you the wrong way, rather than actually try to understand what I mean.

No. In fact I have entertained you FAR more than what I probably SHOULD have and have carefully parsed through your word salads and yes, have quite accurately I think drawn conclusions as to your true feelings on the subject.

The most (in)famous example that you reference disproportionately more than anything else is "just want non-Whites gone". Whenever you reference this you suggest that this is a position I was defending as reasonable. Even though if you look at the context, I was merely trying to curb exaggeration of the Spencerite position (what good does an inaccurate perception of a doctrine ever do?), and also at the same time I numerous times explained that I morally disagreed with Mr. Spencer's proposition of incentivized deportation of non-Whites. So yes, in this main example you very much have mischaracterized what I was saying and the context it related to.

Look again. I have never said "just want non-Whites gone" were YOUR words or sentiment. I HAVE said that according to you, this was the position of the alt-right, a position that, given your other statements re. the preservation of the white-Euro-centric gene pool and your believed "conspiracy" to undermine it, YOU appear to be TOO comfortable with... IMO.

I don't believe I said it in such an absolute sense. You won't find a post where I say all East Asians think completely differently from all Europeans or anything of that sort. More so that there are convergences of genetic streams in one race and others in another, producing some variation in traits, not applying to the same extent in each individual, that lead to overall (not universal) differences in ways of thinking, emotional processing, behavior, spiritual tendencies, and so forth.

In spite of the yet another word salad above, yes, you did pretty much say it, absolute or not. And those whit whom you usually agree with here should do you the favor of reminding you that I'm rather good at referencing precisely when and where you said it.

Indeed, but there are multiple reasons why one may admire him. His precise views are not at the forefront of what I admire about him.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
 

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I am going to call my arsehole " pretentious" now....Not that it is conservative....just that it only excretes what it is not digestible.
 

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Has anyone ever wondered about why there's no liberal version of Rush Limbaugh?

Millions of conservatives tune to conservative talk radio to listen to these guys whine about almost everything - not just liberals or Democrats.

They don't like this; they don't like that. They approve of very little and cry all day about how things aren't what they should be.

But, supposedly, the real snowflakes are liberals?
 
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More so that there are convergences of genetic streams in one race and others in another, producing some variation in traits, not applying to the same extent in each individual, that lead to overall (not universal) differences in ways of thinking, emotional processing, behavior, spiritual tendencies, and so forth.Indeed, but there are multiple reasons why one may admire him. His precise views are not at the forefront of what I admire about him.

What racialized "science" says that. I'm sure it's in the bowels of the internet you find this as no publisher would go near it and no scientific consensus exists it is true.
 

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Has anyone ever wondered about why there's no liberal version of Rush Limbaugh?

Millions of conservatives tune to conservative talk radio to listen to these guys whine about almost everything - not just liberals or Democrats.

They don't like this; they don't like that. They approve of very little and cry all day about how things aren't what they should be.

But, supposedly, the real snowflakes are liberals?

Rachel Maddox
 

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Has anyone ever wondered about why there's no liberal version of Rush Limbaugh?

Millions of conservatives tune to conservative talk radio to listen to these guys whine about almost everything - not just liberals or Democrats.

They don't like this; they don't like that. They approve of very little and cry all day about how things aren't what they should be.

But, supposedly, the real snowflakes are liberals?

I see you think it's fair to cherry-pick the most irrational and unsophisticated of examples as representatives of the Conservative tradition. :rolleyes: