Why are these assholes slinging around the word "RACIST" so easily?

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  1. D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse

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    The new hip thing seems to be for conservatives to bluntly call any person of color with whom they disagree politically a "racist" -- or a "reverse racist".


    Here's Glenn Beck this morning on Fox and Friends calling President Obama a racist.

    YouTube - Glenn Beck, "Obama Is A Racist"



    Here, Limbaugh calls Obama the greatest living example of a reverse racist and also says that Obama appointed one in Sotomayor:

    YouTube - Rush Limbaugh Calls Sotomayor, Obama "Reverse Racists"


    Limbaugh even went so far as to compare Judge Sotomayor to former KKK leader David Duke (skip to 1:30); Newt Gingrich calls Sotomayor a "latina woman racist" at 4:05; Pat Buchanan calls Sotomayor "an affimative action pick" at 4:15...

    YouTube - Republicans Call Supreme Court Nominee A Racist, Stupid, Unqualified, Abrasive, and Menstruating.


    You will remember the angry mobs at the McCain-Palin rallies last fall would call Obama an "Arab", "Hussein", a "terrorist", a "traitor", a "racist", and would ocassionally yell out "Kill him!"

    YouTube - DN! "KILL HIM!!![OBAMA]." PALIN SAYS NOTHING IN RESPONSE.



    Is it possible to mask a conservative party's authentic racist attitudes by simply labeling the opposition a reverse racist? Do racists sublimate their racist tendencies by calling a black president (or presidential candidate) an "Arab" and a "terrorist"... and by claiming the president has not produced a birth certificate and is therefore not an actual american citizen?
     
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    Republicans can't be racist because Lincoln was a Republican and he freed the slaves (and ixnay on the whole, "ship them off to Liberia," thing).

    Sure, you just can't prove it. It's code-speak designed to attract and keep racists in the fold with a wink and a nod. It's grotesque and, if the Republicans continue to allow these people to speak for them, will doom their party. The demographics of this country are going to do that whether the GOP (and the Dems) want it or not. It will have little to do with economic status, education, or location and everything to do with race as whites continue to decline in proportion to other races. Even without the racist innuendo, the GOP is going to struggle in a losing battle unless it completely revamps and co-opts a number of Democratic planks.

    The problem is, I don't see a potential leader among the GOP who can do that. Steele becomes more of a joke by the minute as this birther crap continues to grow.
     
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    Since when has anything a politician had any merit?

    They don't open their mouths unless they're pushing an agenda. Doubly so when it's "weighty" words like racism.

    At the end of the day, politics is all about making the other guy look worse, regardless of what is actually accomplished... or not, as is generally the case.
     
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    The reason why they're complaining?
    They hate it when a mirror is held up to their face. Because what they see is not who they demonize as the problem with the world... they see THEMSELVES.

    If they have a problem with it, then perhaps they should THINK about what they say before they say it. I'll proudly wear the asshole logo if it means exposing some of these idiots as the racists that they are.
     
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    I'm sorry, but can someone explain to me what "reverse racism" means? Racism can be defined as "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races" so wouldn't reverse racism be open-mindedness or something along those lines? Or can a black person not be labeled a racist?
     
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    For some uneducated people, they think "reverse racism" only applies to white people who are being judged unfairly by minorities. There lays the problem. Because in their minds, they've already assumed that it's Us vs. Them. The "whites" vs. the "minorities". Or the "blacks" vs. the "whites". Etc, etc...

    One would have to be somewhat racist to even go into a discussion about race with this mindset. And apparently, many people "in the fringe" do that very thing regardless of their skin color.
     
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    They have to resort to more wacky behavior to get noticed with each passing day, next Beck will take all his clothes of and flog himself until he bleeds fake blood. I'm sure he will save that for sweeps week though.
     
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    Many folks have no clue what racism is. Just because someone is ignorant doesn't make them a racist.
     
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    When back in the USA a few weeks ago I attended a fund raiser for a local girls gymnastic team (all under 12) so they could travel and compete in Washington DC. All the cute little gymnasts were blonde and white as snow. However, all of them had Hispanic last names except one. Despite the fact my county in Nevada votes red, Latinos make up more than a third of the population. I sat across from my favorite gossip, a Shoshone woman who works at the local post office and commented, "Looks like you're the only minority here." She took it in stride, noting that it was impossible to get most of the tribe living on or around the local reservation to attend anything that didn't have the words "pow wow" attached to it. There were plenty of retired "white folks" in attendance. These are the types who can quote Limbaugh and Fox Not News scripture and verse. So, imagine the irony of seeing so many of them turn out -- at $25 a ticket -- for the wine tasting and Mexican food buffet held at a casino/bar/restaurant owned by an old ranching family originally from Puerto Rico. All the nice old white ranching families seem to have finally accepted that their off spring are pretty much homogenized into a mostly Latino population with Hispanic last names. All, that is, except for a small hold out of old mormon families. One of those hold out families includes our famously racist County Commissioner, who was in attendance. He's a firm believer that Obama is not a legal citizen and that the wall being built between Mexico and the USA should be "three times taller." He's not the brightest bulb in the community, which means he's rather easy to control. But more amusing is that the almost majority Latino community puts up with his racist rants about the extinction of the white/judeo-christian families "that founded this part of the West."


    Well, point of fact, with the exception of some white mormon pioneers who got stuck in the area, Elko county was built by Chinese who worked to build the trans-continental railroad. And hoards of Mexican families invaded the area from 1870 to 1950 from Zacatecas, Mexico, to work in the newly discovered gold, silver, and copper mines. They were miners who needed to find work because the mines in Zacatecas were being played out. Then there was the huge influx of over 20,000 Basque from 1900 to 1940 who immigrated and moved to North Eastern Nevada to buy ranches and herd sheep. These immigrants stuck around while the few white folks moved on to Reno, Sacramento, or back to Salt Lake City.

    Anyway, reverse discrimination? The general makeup of Elko County's population has been -- at times -- mostly Latino. And then there are all of the Italians that migrated to Elko via San Francisco. Still, the county votes red for the GOP -- even in the last election. The topics of conversation at the fundraiser were about the price of hay, carpet baggers such as myself coming in and buying up all of the land available during the economic downturn while locals can't get loans, and how just about every man and woman in the place had a better recipe for Chile Verde than the version offered at the buffet. And everyone, including myself, complained about the local Sheriff, his minions, and the Nevada Highway Patrol who have started pulling everyone over to see if they can turn some coin for the county by giving out tickets for not driving with headlights on during the day (it's mandatory of Highways, but not on the Interstates), not wearing seat belts, and now they even give out tickets if you're going 4 miles over the 75 mph speed limit. The temerity. It's hard to complain of racial profiling because half the Nevada Highway Patrol is Latino. And by now, most 'Mericuhns have a feel for northern Nevada police. For many living in Reno and Sparks, the show Reno 911 is not a joke, but a coy play on the truth.

    The one giant value held in common by everyone -- the glue, so to speak -- was how to get the Federal Government off our collective backs. Taxes we can live with, but no one can put up with the EPA showing up at a ranch and checking the surface and ground water, then write up reports so privately owned water can be taken over and controlled by The Department of the Interior. Color, race, and ethnicity tend to melt away when we're faced with the Federal Government trying to pass legislation to take away and manage our local water rights. You see, Las Vegas, the largest city in the State needs more water, despite two thirds of the 10% unemployment in the State is in Las Vegas. People talk about the Owens River Valley in California that was turned into a desert so all the runoff from the Sierras could be diverted for more than 200 miles to water the lawns of Los Angeles.

    So, when you hear of an uprising in the northern "heart land" of Nevada, don't think for a minute that it will be about race or bigotry. No, it will be over the Feds taking away local water rights and stressing the local ranchers into bankruptcy. You want to complain about racial profiling, bigotry, and racism in general you have to go to Reno or Las Vegas where there has been a steady inmigration of folks from the Eastern Seaboard (New York and New Jersey, in particular), the importation of organized crime into these two large communities which still exists supporting the so-call "vice" industries, and the general lack of cohesion in these cities because of the vagrant population (not the vagrants, just those who show up from out-of-State and stay for two or three years helping turning the new suburbs into the new slums) with its tendency to bring with it and leave illicit drugs and gang members from LA who cannot find employment.

    However, in little old Wells, where the fantasy among the few whites is that it is a "white" community, one thing that was interesting to hear was that most everyone was behind the idea of Sotomayor being appointed to the Supreme Court. Oddly enough, even our local Republican-Obama-is-not-a-legal-citizen County commissioner was heard to laud the virtues of having a Latino as a Supreme Court Justice. All this ballyhoo about Latina women being wiser than an old white guy? Well, it wasn't said as much as implied that having a Latina on the Supreme Court was a good thing, even though she might end up making Scalia look like a liberal.

    Reverse racism? Means a whole different thing out there in the wild and woolly West. :tongue:
     
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    I doubt that very much. Perhaps they don't know how many ways it can affect us as a nation, but I don't know of a single adult who doesn't know what this is on some level.

    That may be true, but even the ignorant knows when they're overly generalizing or stereotyping.
     
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    Welcome back Will! We tried to hold back the miscreants without you!

    To the barricades, fellow Traveler!

    Your brother,

    Sparky
     
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    Apparently not.

    A black person can certainly be racist but label them as such and all hell breaks loose.

    In any case using the term reverse racism is probably their way of saying minorities discriminating against whites because as we all know it's not discrimination done right unless it's a white person discriminating against a minority.:rolleyes:

    Can we hurry up and interbreed the world's population to a uniform beige already? Then we'll only have religion to hate each other for.
     
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    Oh, come on. You seriously can't believe that?
    Nobody likes to be labeled a "racist", and that goes for everyone regardless of color. But if they don't want the label, they shouldn't speak or form opinions that are indeed just that.

    I mean, everyone here should be smart enough to know what "racism" means: A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    It's not as if we all can name a few people on this very board who honestly believe this, or word their comments to suggest it.
     
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    There is no way that will rid ourselves of somehow finding a way to differentiate ourselves from our 'inferiors' just by looking at them. No way.
     
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    Reverse racism is the establishment of policies to promote the interests of a minority group at some expense to those of a majority group.
    It's benign in intent ... to reduce the disadvantages that minority groups have suffered over a long period of time.
    An example would be affirmative action in employment and education to reduce the effects of discrimination not only on the basis of race, but gender, ethnicity, and so forth.
    I may be mistaken, but I don't think Canada has used these policies nearly as much as Americans have.
     
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    WTF!! Without a doubt the worst definition possible. Is that what they teach in NY?? If that defines a racist than I dare you to find one person or group of people that doesn't fall into that category.

    I mean, everyone here should be smart enough to know what "racism" means: A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
     
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    Well, what has been my own personal experience when attempting to label a black person (and on occasion, other visible minorities as well) as racist, I get a horrible backlash and a whole tirade consisting of, "I'm black, I can't be racist." This isn't always the case, but it has become the norm (in my experience, that is). So, it's not even about disliking being labeled as "racist", it's about the belief that as a visible minority, one simply cannot be racist. It's ignorant, absurd and just as backwards as using racial slurs as terms of endearment.

    It's actually the first definition for the word "racism" here: Racism; Definition | Definition of Racism; at Dictionary.com I used the third definition myself.
     
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    And Himmler couldnt have been anti-semitic because he ordered the extermination camps to be closed in 45.
     
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    People aren't aware of their racism. That's pretty much the hallmark of racism--to be blind to your own. It's a type of lack of empathy and feeling.
     
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    this is so true, even if someone isn't overtly racist most of us aren't "colorblind" yet. each generation seems to move a little closer to being "colorblind". i think it's a good thing, though some interesting cultural differences will be lost in the process of homogenization.


    ** i realize you were using the word "blind" in a different context than my use of "colorblind".
     
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