Why are white guys that are into black guys

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

Would you happen to know how gay men of different races interact in Brazil? It's a large country so maybe there are differences in certain areas but maybe things stay the same overall. I went to São Paulo for a quick work trip and thought that the white guys there acted the same as US whites.

There are some peculiarities in brazilian racism because miscegenation was always very intense. The majority of the brazilian population have at least some roots in Africa, but you still get higher in the social order the whiter you are. The result is a form of racism that is generally more nuanced than american racism, with its past of racist laws, racist civil war, openly racist politicians, etc. We dont have many white supremacist groups (even in it's concealled forms, like "heritage" groups, groups analogous to the American Legion, mormons, etc). Racism here is more automatic than intelectualized. We have intense cultural integration coexisting with social exclusion, where white people enjoy hearing black rhythms while being completely oblivious to the fact there's only white people at their party. We don't have black communities in the sense of a separate culture, altough we do have ghettos (even more than USA). When affirmative action were first proposed in Brazil, many whites protested saying that would "install racism in this country for the very first time since slavery ended".

In the south, where I live, the majority of the population descend from european immigrants, we almost had no slave trade, so we don't have the intense miscegenation that is typical in the rest of Brazil. Whites are proud of their european heritage, and southerners are thought to be more industrious, more spirituous and more beautiful than the rest of brazilians. Many in the south (and some in the southeast) believe we are basically the backbone of our country and our greatest plight is maintaining the lazy northeast (where the majority of the population is black) with Bolsa Familia - our version of food stamps. Many southerners hope for secession. People are generally oblivious to the racist innuendo in the south X northeast controversies, but we can say that in the south racism is more overt. In many aspects, the south's racism is closer to american racism.

As in anywhere else in the white world, blacks are thought to have bigger cocks and to be more masculine and bruttish (in an quasi-animalistic way). One peculiarity is that we ordinarily refer to a black guy as "negão" (meaning big black). Brazilian gay guys, as in USA, rarely are primarily attracted to black guys, and in those cases almost always in this fetishized way.

 

[902369]

There are some peculiarities in brazilian racism because miscegenation was always very intense. The majority of the brazilian population have at least some roots in Africa, but you still get higher in the social order the whiter you are. The result is a form of racism that is generally more nuanced than american racism, with its past of racist laws, racist civil war, openly racist politicians, etc. We dont have many white supremacist groups (even in it's concealled forms, like "heritage" groups, groups analogous to the American Legion, mormons, etc). Racism here is more automatic than intelectualized. We have intense cultural integration coexisting with social exclusion, where white people enjoy hearing black rhythms while being completely oblivious to the fact there's only white people at their party. We don't have black communities in the sense of a separate culture, altough we do have ghettos (even more than USA). When affirmative action were first proposed in Brazil, many whites protested saying that would "install racism in this country for the very first time since slavery ended".

In the south, where I live, the majority of the population descend from european immigrants, we almost had no slave trade, so we don't have the intense miscegenation that is typical in the rest of Brazil. Whites are proud of their european heritage, and southerners are thought to be more industrious, more spirituous and more beautiful than the rest of brazilians. Many in the south (and some in the southeast) believe we are basically the backbone of our country and our greatest plight is maintaining the lazy northeast (where the majority of the population is black) with Bolsa Familia - our version of food stamps. Many southerners hope for secession. People are generally oblivious to the racist innuendo in the south X northeast controversies, but we can say that in the south racism is more overt. In many aspects, the south's racism is closer to american racism.

As in anywhere else in the white world, blacks are thought to have bigger cocks and to be more masculine and bruttish (in an quasi-animalistic way). One peculiarity is that we ordinarily refer to a black guy as "negão" (meaning big black). Brazilian gay guys, as in USA, rarely are primarily attracted to black guys, and in those cases almost always in this fetishized way.

Thank you for your response! It was a great read and I figured this was the case from my brief interactions with other Brazilians but I wasn't too sure and didn't want to jump to conclusions. Do you know if stereotypes among gay men are different depending on the location for example, São Paulo vs. Salvador or maybe Belo Horizonte, or are these stereotypes the same all across the country? Do you know what black gays think of white gays in Brazil? Sorry if I'm asking too many questions!

 

[HotBulge]

Nellon,

• [A diversion] Let me show you a video of an interracial couple whose relationship portrays what you are probably looking for yet haven't attained yet: http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/Interracial-Couple-Couch-Fuck-26892611
• [A diversion] Here's another interracial sex video of a white guy topping a Black guy for you to get off on - start around 19:00 http://www.redtube.com/1064382.
• On a serious note, Cambridge MA was the first city in the US to legalize gay marriage in 2004, with MA becoming the first state in the US to legalize gay marriage. Guess what: the FIRST gay couple to wed at Cambridge City Hall was an interracial professional couple. See the news article about their 10th year wedding anniversary in 2014.I am confident that their relationship is founded on more than BBC; otherwise, it would have ended years ago. I see them socially about once or twice a year, FYI.
  
• As for my own life experiences, perhaps I've been rather lucky in retrospect to not have been frustrated by being reduced to BBC. In fact, when I was in college, most gay White men wouldn't give Black guys the time of day but that dynamic changed about 7 to 10 years ago. I have been lucky to have had two long-term, interracial friendships "with benefits": one relationship was 6 years with a colleague from work who was a European-Mexican. We bonded as a result of going through life struggles together. The other is a friendship with benefits is with a White guy that I've known for 11 years now. Actually, my biggest challenge has been with straight, married guy friends who express interest for some action on the down-lo -- but that's a different topic.
• I don't need to defend White people, nor do I feel like I bear the onus of turning the cheek when someone thinks of me as BBC. I concentrate my efforts and attention on people I care about, not on lonely gay guys who don't have a clue.

By the way, do you also deny that there were Christians who saved Jews during WWII, or white abolitionists who argued to abolish slavery, or White people who protested in Civil Rights marches in the 1950s and 60s? You seem quite keen to think that there are not exceptions to a rule. It's convenient to be close-minded and empower your sense of righteousness as the eternal victim.

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

Do you know if stereotypes among gay men are different depending on the location for example, São Paulo vs. Salvador or maybe Belo Horizonte, or are these stereotypes the same all across the country?

Unfortunately, I'm both terribly closeted and poorly travelled, so I don't know if stereotypes are homogeneous in Brazil. But most stereotypes I've know as a southerner are pretty much the same stereotypes americans have. We do have a stereotype that people from the state of Rio Grande do Sul (the "gaúchos") are gay, particularly gaúchos who are fans of Grêmio football club ("gremistas"), particularly gaúchos gremistas from the city of Pelotas ("pelotenses"). This very specific stereotype is curiously known to all brazilians. The only explanation I've find was for why pelotenses were thought as gays: it was once a very rapidly enriched city (specially through cattle ranchers), which allowed families to send their sons to Lisbon to study; once they returned, their refined new ways were read as affemination.

 

[902369]

Unfortunately, I'm both terribly closeted and poorly travelled, so I don't know if stereotypes are homogeneous in Brazil. But most stereotypes I've know as a southerner are pretty much the same stereotypes americans have. We do have a stereotype that people from the state of Rio Grande do Sul (the "gaúchos") are gay, particularly gaúchos who are fans of Grêmio football club ("gremistas"), particularly gaúchos gremistas from the city of Pelotas ("pelotenses"). This very specific stereotype is curiously known to all brazilians. The only explanation I've find was for why pelotenses were thought as gays: it was once a very rapidly enriched city (specially through cattle ranchers), which allowed families to send their sons to Lisbon to study; once they returned, their refined new ways were read as affemination.

Thanks. I think I've heard of that stereotype. Im also aware of Brazilian derogatory terms like "24" for a gay man since that number is for the "viado" in "jogo de bicho" no? Did I get the number wrong?

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

Nellon,
By the way, do you also deny that there were Christians who saved Jews during WWII, or white abolitionists who argued to abolish slavery, or White people who protested in Civil Rights marches in the 1950s and 60s? You seem quite keen to think that there are not exceptions to a rule. It's convenient to be close-minded and empower your sense of righteousness as the eternal victim.

I'm sorry to get in the middle of the discussion, but isn't it correct to say that if it wasn't for white people, abolition would not even be necessary, since the Atlantic Slave Trade would never happen? Same for Jim Crow...

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

Thanks. I think I've heard of that stereotype. Im also aware of Brazilian derogatory terms like "24" for a gay man since that number is for the "viado" in "jogo de bicho" no? Did I get the number wrong?

Oh yes, I forgot that one. Are you american? In the US people also associate the deer with homosexuality?

 

[902369]

Nellon,

• [A diversion] Let me show you a video of an interracial couple whose relationship portrays what you are probably looking for yet haven't attained yet: http://www.xtube.com/video-watch/Interracial-Couple-Couch-Fuck-26892611
• [A diversion] Here's another interracial sex video of a white guy topping a Black guy for you to get off on - start around 19:00 http://www.redtube.com/1064382.
• On a serious note, Cambridge MA was the first city in the US to legalize gay marriage in 2004, with MA becoming the first state in the US to legalize gay marriage. Guess what: the FIRST gay couple to wed at Cambridge City Hall was an interracial professional couple. See the news article about their 10th year wedding anniversary in 2014.I am confident that their relationship is founded on more than BBC; otherwise, it would have ended years ago. I see them socially about once or twice a year, FYI.
  
• As for my own life experiences, perhaps I've been rather lucky in retrospect to not have been frustrated by being reduced to BBC. In fact, when I was in college, most gay White men wouldn't give Black guys the time of day but that dynamic changed about 7 to 10 years ago. I have been lucky to have had two long-term, interracial friendships "with benefits": one relationship was 6 years with a colleague from work who was a European-Mexican. We bonded as a result of going through life struggles together. The other is a friendship with benefits is with a White guy that I've known for 11 years now. Actually, my biggest challenge has been with straight, married guy friends who express interest for some action on the down-lo -- but that's a different topic.
• I don't need to defend White people, nor do I feel like I bear the onus of turning the cheek when someone thinks of me as BBC. I concentrate my efforts and attention on people I care about, not on lonely gay guys who don't have a clue.

By the way, do you also deny that there were Christians who saved Jews during WWII, or white abolitionists who argued to abolish slavery, or White people who protested in Civil Rights marches in the 1950s and 60s? You seem quite keen to think that there are not exceptions to a rule. It's convenient to be close-minded and empower your sense of righteousness as the eternal victim.

Hi HotBulge, thank you for replying to my response with porn and deflection. This says a lot about you and this will probably be my last response to you. And for the record, since you brought up the Civil Rights and the Abolishment of Slavery in the US, you should know that white people as a whole didn't care about the treatment of blacks during either of these time periods. White people only took notice to the horrors of slavery once they saw how the mulattos, quadroons and anyone else with a small percentage and "drop" of black blood, who looked much more white than black were considered slaves and denied certain privileges just for having minuscule black ancestry. The same can be said for the Civil Rights movement and how blacks in the South regardless of complexion were treated during that time as well. Why don't you know your own black history better?

 

[902369]

I'm sorry to get in the middle of the discussion, but isn't it correct to say that if it wasn't for white people, abolition would not even be necessary, since the Atlantic Slave Trade would never happen? Same for Jim Crow...

Well spoken.

 

[902369]

Oh yes, I forgot that one. Are you american? In the US people also associate the deer with homosexuality?

Yes I'm American. I took several Portuguese classes in college and plan on one day in the far off future retiring and moving to Rio de Janeiro lol. I've only been to Brazil once for work. No one associates deer with homosexuality. I've learned from friends that Brazilian slang is very creative.

 

[HotBulge]

Dear Heart, Nellon,
NO, let's not play the blackness card. My background and family history represent the spectrum of experiences for Black America... My direct ancestors were lynched in Mississippi (i.e. my great grandfather and one of my grandfather's siblings), my grandfather's cousin registered Blacks in the South during the mid-1960s, my parents were politically active in the Black community, I was dues-paying active member of the NAACP, etc. Members of my family lead lives ranging from something from "The Cosby Show" all the way to "Good Times" and in-between. My extended family has every shade of Black, brown, or caramel in it, and I have at least 3 relatives in interracial marriages. In other words, my family and I have experienced the ugly and the beauty of the Black American experience.

Sadly, you are intolerant of views that don't support your preconceptions. You can't select facts that only fit your argument and selectively ignore the rest.

Your sense of humor/levity seems to be lacking: This is a gay forum. Get over yourself. You don't even acknowledge porn that represents your expressed interests. My use of porn is as valid as your use of Internet dating sites and Grindr-like apps to demonstrate a point. They both represent the subject preferences of the individual.

I also find it interesting that you ignored any serious examples of functional interracial relationships that I brought up. You did not acknowledge that the 2nd legally recognized gay marriage in the US occurred with an interracial couple in Cambridge, MA. You ignored my personal examples of having been or being in 2 long-term friendship/relations "with benefits" that were founded on merits unrelated to race.

You can't selectively ignore evidence which you find inconvenient to your sense of truth. You have been doing so throughout the entire thread since the original post. You have set up scenarios with limited options to ignore competing or alternative explanations, you set up straw man arguments, and you resort to ad hominem attacks - forms of fallacies that are as classic as the Ancient Greeks.

It is your prerogative to remain close-minded. Good luck in life with that such an attitude. You will need it

Hi HotBulge, thank you for replying to my response with porn and deflection. This says a lot about you and this will probably be my last response to you. And for the record, since you brought up the Civil Rights and the Abolishment of Slavery in the US, you should know that white people as a whole didn't care about the treatment of blacks during either of these time periods. White people only took notice to the horrors of slavery once they saw how the mulattos, quadroons and anyone else with a small percentage and "drop" of black blood, who looked much more white than black were considered slaves and denied certain privileges just for having minuscule black ancestry. The same can be said for the Civil Rights movement and how blacks in the South regardless of complexion were treated during that time as well. Why don't you know your own black history better?

 

[alcor972]

n the south, where I live, the majority of the population descend from european immigrants, we almost had no slave trade,

have you got some infos about the track of the trade between brazil and africa?...
I've heard it had particularities comparatively to the classical triangle africa --- caribbean/america --- europe describing the trade to the north of the equator...
thanks...

 

[umdoistressilvaquatro]

have you got some infos about the track of the trade between brazil and africa?...
I've heard it had particularities comparatively to the classical triangle africa --- caribbean/america --- europe describing the trade to the north of the equator...
thanks...

Unfortunately no, we don't really learn about any of that in school

 

[Anton565]

I would also add that people of color don't underestimate white cluelessness. We are fully aware of this. White people underestimate their own cluelessness. Nonetheless, thank you for your responses. You've gotten the idea so far!

Oh, the average white person is totally convinced that he's fully clued-in when he's in fact totally not. No argument from me, lol. You're in a better position to judge than I but I applaud you for giving the benefit of the doubt to white people in general (regarding their clulessness).

Regarding Brazil: I stayed in a suburb of Sao Paolo for 3 weeks. My 2 dialects of Italian and limited Spanish was deemed good enough to be sent out on my own, lol. Most of my time was divided between running errands for elderly in-laws and attending lectures from one of my professors who was visiting the local university. Point is that I wasn't a tourist. I spent 3 weeks as the exotic, eroticized 'Other'. I was definitely deemed one of the 'beautiful people' simply for my skin colour. It was something of a surprise, to say the least.

I still think it's a sign of having broader problems when a guy refuses to consider a significant portion of the population simply because of race. Specifically, it says to me that the guy doesn't actually want to get laid and doesn't actually want a husband....

 

[WillyLong]

WillyLong, I understand the idea behind your post. What you said is true and in some ways parallels my OP, so thank you for the supporting response. Given what you've written and the fact that you username is, "WillyLong" it's safe to assume that you are as well a gay black man. First off, let's get one thing clear. I'm not miserable. I don't know why you would think this. Nowhere in my posts have I said this, and if my responses come across as that then you have misinterpreted them.

I don't harbor any internal hatred. I don't throw pity parties for myself. What I do is observe. I observe how blacks, such as how you have described in your post that I'm responding to, fit into a single narrative among gay men. And, once remarks are made in observance of that narrative, people, including yourself, get very defensive. I sense defensiveness rampant in your post. Please stop that behavior as I did not mean to neither offend you nor my fellow gay black men.

Lastly, there is no chip on my shoulder. I simply observe what I see based off of my interactions and the interactions that occur among others. Again, thank you for your response.

You equate a rebuttal with being defensive? SMH

Outside of this thread, on this website, you’ve said the following:

“Bottom....but so is everyone else, so I'll wait in line. LOL. I really dislike topping, never liked it.”

“I agree. I've always thought this. That's why I watch straight rough porn and pretend to be the woman while focussing on the guy.”

“As a young gay black man, I know that most young, hung, white men are NOT looking for black bottoms that are interested in exploring and submitting to their huge white cocks.”

So, it’s clear you are miserable. You’re at the back of the bottom boy line, standing behind the white, latin, and asian twinks. You wish you were a woman. It pisses you off that not only are you not the flavor of the century among young white tops, even the black tops don’t want you. You’re jealous that black tops can get any bottom of any color they want while you’re starving for any top of any color to find you attractive.

After reading your following quote, your holier than thou attitude is laughable:

“I'm looking for a hung married guy to suck off in Miami, Fl.”

So your sexual frustration is so strong you don’t care about the woman that’s married to the hung straight guy you fantasize about.

If your observations weren’t dripping in sexual frustration, anger, and self-hatred, you would be able to see that there are two other possible and more probable conclusions based on your observations. 1. Interracial couples may be similar in age but one looks younger than the other. 2. Older white top probably always found black men attractive, he just never acted on his attraction due to fear (similar to gay men of all colors who were married to women until they finally decided to live their truth).

As stated earlier, there is a Top out there for you, but if you don’t drop the attitude, you’re going to find yourself by yourself. No Top man of any color wants a bitter black bottom in their bed.

 

[902369]

You equate a rebuttal with being defensive? SMH

Outside of this thread, on this website, you’ve said the following:

“Bottom....but so is everyone else, so I'll wait in line. LOL. I really dislike topping, never liked it.”

“I agree. I've always thought this. That's why I watch straight rough porn and pretend to be the woman while focussing on the guy.”

“As a young gay black man, I know that most young, hung, white men are NOT looking for black bottoms that are interested in exploring and submitting to their huge white cocks.”

So, it’s clear you are miserable. You’re at the back of the bottom boy line, standing behind the white, latin, and asian twinks. You wish you were a woman. It pisses you off that not only are you not the flavor of the century among young white tops, even the black tops don’t want you. You’re jealous that black tops can get any bottom of any color they want while you’re starving for any top of any color to find you attractive.

After reading your following quote, your holier than thou attitude is laughable:

“I'm looking for a hung married guy to suck off in Miami, Fl.”

So your sexual frustration is so strong you don’t care about the woman that’s married to the hung straight guy you fantasize about.

If your observations weren’t dripping in sexual frustration, anger, and self-hatred, you would be able to see that there are two other possible and more probable conclusions based on your observations. 1. Interracial couples may be similar in age but one looks younger than the other. 2. Older white top probably always found black men attractive, he just never acted on his attraction due to fear (similar to gay men of all colors who were married to women until they finally decided to live their truth).

As stated earlier, there is a Top out there for you, but if you don’t drop the attitude, you’re going to find yourself by yourself. No Top man of any color wants a bitter black bottom in their bed.

WillyLong, I honestly feel as though you and the other gay black font have turned this thread into a black gay vs. black gay thread when my OP was never originally directed towards other black gay men. As I have stated before, I have simply expressed my observations and opinions of how myself and other gay black men are viewed upon by non-black gay men in general. That's fine if you don't agree with me. I find it interesting that what I have said has struck a chord with both you and HotBuldge, two gay black men. I'd like to know why this has happened, and would be open to discussing this should you wish. Perhaps, maybe both of you enjoy the role of topping more so than the role of bottoming, and somewhat favor the stereotypes associated with black tops - hence, both of your responses.

I understand what both of you have said in this thread. Neither of you let stereotypes effect how either of you conduct yourselves as individuals nor your interactions with others outside of your race. I understand this and I've said before that I do the same everyday. However, with this thread I simply wanted reactions to my OP and explanations as to why this is the case for most gay black men (those open to interracial dating) when they interact with gay men outside of their race, especially with white men - yes I'm comfortable with using the word "most".

I will ignore your name calling and attempted diagnosis of my personality. We've never met in person and you don't know me just as much as I don't know you. I appreciate your due diligence in pulling up my previous posts on this website to prove your point, but by doing so you have also proven my point in my OP by suggesting that black bottoms like myself are at the bottom of the hierarchy because we're not interested in using our BBC to top hungry bottoms that crave BBC, thus being undesirables among the gay, "totem poll".

I wanted to note in regards to both of your final observations that you gave in an attempt to answer the question in my OP, that I know my OP was in nature somewhat of a generalization; however, my question was not far fetched and several profiles (not just belonging to black men) that commented in this thread have noticed and some have agreed to my observations.

Lastly, you end by saying that there is a top somewhere out there for me but first I must drop the attitude because he will not want to deal with a bitter black bottom. For some reason, this unsolicited advice reminds me of the remarks that ignorant heterosexual black men make towards black women whenever said group of women vent or complain about their experiences that they all have in common with regards to their interactions with others and while dating. I'm not at all going to support comments like this as they are a trivialized attempt to belittle someone else's experiences that frankly I believe a lot of men like myself (gay and black, specifically gay, black and bottom) share. Thus, it seems as though you are the one who is self-hating in your endeavor to silence my observations but this is none of my business, and I will not try to disparage your experiences that you have had while interacting with gay men outside of your race albeit I think that I have already done so, given your responses and given the sense that you may fall in to the former of the two possibilities presented my either/or original question.

 

[jpk338]

WillyLong, I honestly feel as though you and the other gay black font have turned this thread into a black gay vs. black gay thread when my OP was never originally directed towards other black gay men. As I have stated before, I have simply expressed my observations and opinions of how myself and other gay black men are viewed upon by non-black gay men in general. That's fine if you don't agree with me. I find it interesting that what I have said has struck a chord with both you and HotBuldge, two gay black men. I'd like to know why this has happened, and would be open to discussing this should you wish. Perhaps, maybe both of you enjoy the role of topping more so than the role of bottoming, and somewhat favor the stereotypes associated with black tops - hence, both of your responses.

I understand what both of you have said in this thread. Neither of you let stereotypes effect how either of you conduct yourselves as individuals nor your interactions with others outside of your race. I understand this and I've said before that I do the same everyday. However, with this thread I simply wanted reactions to my OP and explanations as to why this is the case for most gay black men (those open to interracial dating) when they interact with gay men outside of their race, especially with white men - yes I'm comfortable with using the word "most".

I will ignore your name calling and attempted diagnosis of my personality. We've never met in person and you don't know me just as much as I don't know you. I appreciate your due diligence in pulling up my previous posts on this website to prove your point, but by doing so you have also proven my point in my OP by suggesting that black bottoms like myself are at the bottom of the hierarchy because we're not interested in using our BBC to top hungry bottoms that crave BBC, thus being undesirables among the gay, "totem poll".

I wanted to note in regards to both of your final observations that you gave in an attempt to answer the question in my OP, that I know my OP was in nature somewhat of a generalization; however, my question was not far fetched and several profiles (not just belonging to black men) that commented in this thread have noticed and some have agreed to my observations.

Lastly, you end by saying that there is a top somewhere out there for me but first I must drop the attitude because he will not want to deal with a bitter black bottom. For some reason, this unsolicited advice reminds me of the remarks that ignorant heterosexual black men make towards black women whenever said group of women vent or complain about their experiences that they all have in common with regards to their interactions with others and while dating. I'm not at all going to support comments like this as they are a trivialized attempt to belittle someone else's experiences that frankly I believe a lot of men like myself (gay and black, specifically gay, black and bottom) share. Thus, it seems as though you are the one who is self-hating in your endeavor to silence my observations but this is none of my business, and I will not try to disparage your experiences that you have had while interacting with gay men outside of your race albeit I think that I have already done so, given your responses and given the sense that you may fall in to the former of the two possibilities presented my either/or original question.

I hope you find the therapy that you need. I'll keep you in my prayers.

 

[902369]

I hope you find the therapy that you need. I'll keep you in my prayers.

If you only have condescending and insincere comments to make, please stay out of my thread.

 

[HotBulge]

Point #1: You submitted a post to a forum in a forum for response by gay men. Once it's in the wild, you can't take it back; you invited other people's opinions. It's not YOUR thread anymore when people address the specific topic.

Point #2: You're 26+ years old. It's the appropriate time in your life to start focusing on what it means to cultivate a relationship rather than lashing out at the world your narrow demographic - a gay, Black, bottom - is not the "it" flavor of the day. In the meantime, relieve your sexual frustrations with a dildo. Problem solved.....after the hard work of learning how to TRULY relate to another man who complements you.

If you only have condescending and insincere comments to make, please stay out of my thread.

 

[tncentaur]

Point #1: You submitted a post to a forum in a forum for response by gay men. Once it's in the wild, you can't take it back; you invited other people's opinions. It's not YOUR thread anymore when people address the specific topic.

Point #2: You're 26+ years old. It's the appropriate time in your life to start focusing on what it means to cultivate a relationship rather than lashing out at the world your narrow demographic - a gay, Black, bottom - is not the "it" flavor of the day. In the meantime, relieve your sexual frustrations with a dildo. Problem solved.....after the hard work of learning how to TRULY relate to another man who complements you.

Hotbulge,
Nullo399 isn't capable of logical thinking or rational discouse. Just leave the fool alone.