Why are whites not called the minorities...

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  1. conntom

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    We are a small percentage of the world's population.
     
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    Who knows. The whole emphasis on race in the last census was weird to me. I thought we were supposed to be getting beyond race finally.
     
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    Isn't the term 'minority' dependent on actually where ya are Blanche?
     
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    In America white people have the money.
     
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    we don't want the current administration to know this.
     
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    Just wait your turn. ;0)
     
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    anyone who answers a race question in a census or anywhere else is a moral coward
     
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    Anyone who judges a person's integrity over something as frivolous as a race question on a census should stop acting like they have a pair. You'd answer the question if the subject of race doesn't scare you.

    I answered it because I have nothing to hide. Yes, I'm Black, African-American, Negro, Chocolate or whatever the flavor of the month is. I don't ignore or omit who or what I am just for the sake of other people's squeamish ideals. At the same time, understand that just because I call myself something doesn't mean that I automatically adhere to the stereotypes people associate with them. I don't play Basketball. I'm not allergic to job applications. I don't own a gun. I love Hip-Hop culture, but I don't rap. I wear a belt and my pants actually fit me. My favorite fruit is not watermelon. Street corners are where I go to cross the street, not hang out. I don't sell drugs. I don't do drugs.

    Did I forget anything? Oh yeah...
    I never forget where I come from. I feel an obligation knowing my roots to be a voice for the voiceless. I speak truth based on what I've learned and experienced, knowing that someone else's truth may be slightly different. I speak my mind. I'll challenge anyone's perception on status quo. I'll be abrasive when need to, especially when someone approaches me as an adult with infantile reasoning.

    This is, in essence, what composes of me regardless of what color I am. If anyone has a problem with any of this, seek some therapy.
     
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    I think Id consider the question reasonable in a census because its used to make decisions about issues such as medicine, schools, whatever. But nowadays you can hardly turn around without half a questionnair asking your race. The other day I was talking to a police officer, who wanted to know my race for the purposes of the form he was completing. Like what? couldnt he see? No, apparently my race was what I said it was, not what he said it was. The obsession with race is going a bit far.
     
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    For the same reason the House of Windsor are not called Peasants- it has nothing to do with numbers, it is all to do with power.
     
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    Is there a threat in there?

    I was a white kid at a mostly black school.... Say what you will about racism by whites. Personally, I find the biggest problem people have with racism/discrimination is they want to be the ones doing it.

    Not on an individual basis - but by population - group dynamic kind of thing.

    Racism anyways...is one part of what I call lookism.

    People prejudge on everything when it comes to appearance. Race is only one factor.
     
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    Are you praying for that one world government to officially list you as a minority?
     
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    lol...I'm not a one world gov't kind of person.


    If we get that the whole world gets to be a third world dump.

    I just think its junk to list me as the majority when I am only such when looking at a small part of the world...
     
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    Hark! I bring you good tidings (and a little bit of sanity) to these discussions.

    First, I loved the "not allergic to job applications" thing. That was funny!

    Second, Whites are not considered a "minority" because they are not a minority. Yet. Census information is used to predict growth trends in urbanization, internet usuage, race demographics, etc. Yes, according to the Census folks Whites will be the minority eventually in the nation as a whole, but not necessarily in your neighborhood.

    Third, the Census, Police, doctor's etc all ask you your race for a reason. Mainly it is analyzed for information that can be used to improve services. For instance, if a doctor's office records 99% white customers but the sorrounding city is 98% Hispanic then there might just be an issue there. Or, for example, if a White cop pulls over Blacks 85% of the time in an area where Blacks represent 13% of the population then there might be an issue there as well.

    By the way, the white cop story is true: happened in my home town.

    Now, back to the penis'!
     
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    This statement makes no sense to me. Your definition of 'truth' must be different than mine.

    Opinion may be more what you're talking about maybe. When someone finds their opinion is supported by some facts, they believe their opinion must be correct, and they sometimes call that 'truth'. The problem arises when good people fail to realize that they really don't know or understand all the factors that led them to falsely believe that they are correct. They may be unaware of some key facts simply due to their inexperience in some related areas. Young people make these mistakes all the time. I know I did. But the truly intelligent people acknowledge their errors and recognize the new facts that mislead their false opinions, and make the change. That's learning. That's wisdom.

    Do you know why so many young people are liberal and so many conservatives are old? I'm sure many of you liberals think the same thing I did when I was very liberal. I thought that it was because old people get set in their dumb ways and are incapable of the change necessary for progress. I thought us young bucks were coming in to save the world with our new way of progressive thinking. Out with the old and in with the new was my motto.

    But you know what? Those old conservatives, many of them, were the old flower children from the 60's. Nobody was more liberal than they were! So what happened? It wasn't clear until it happened to me. They made mistakes. They realized some of their opinions had errors. They learned. They grew wiser.

    Not all of them do. It takes intellectual honesty, and a willingness to learn from mistakes, and make the necessary changes. Not everyone can do it. Thats why you will always see a number of old liberals. They didn't, or couldn't do it.

    One critical step to achieving that wisdom is realizing that there is a "BEST" solution, or answer for everything. You also must realize that you cannot and will not satisfy everyone. All you can do is the right thing for the whole, and hope that the individuals that make up the whole are smart enough to jump on board. The bigger whole always trumps the individual.

    Thats why you don't sacrifice your country for the benefit your family, and you don't sacrifice your family for the benefit of yourself.

    Freedom trumps health. That is my opinion but it is correct and therefore truth based on the above logic.

    The best way for a society to exercise freedom is through a system of free market capitalism.

    Obamacare is a socialist overhaul to our free market capitalist healthcare system in the name of health and concern for the wealth of the poor. It fails to take into consideration the long term consequences to people, the economy and especially businesses that employ people and drive productivity. All socialist systems are less efficient than private counterparts, but more importantly, steering away from capitalism is a threat to freedom for all.

    Again, freedom trumps health. Wealth is created best in freedom.

    This is wrong. It is a bad move for our country. And since our country is the best thing to happen in human history, it is bad for humanity.
     
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    And I was a black kid, who grew up in the city surrounded by minorities, who went to a predominately white school from first grade all the way up through college. Trust me, I already know most of what you're going to say before you even think it.

    Here's the REAL issue. Many people are just scared of things that are different. They're envious that someone else gets the attention they wish they had. Because of it, they wind up hating that person and to try and make themselves appear to be equal or "better than" that person they grasp onto any kind of different characteristic about them and exaggerate it to being a flaw. Racism is nothing without jealousy, fear and envy to fuel it. But doesn't it make a perfect smokescreen? It's worked since the days of slavery, and it still makes for the perfect deflection.

    Why do I say this? Because I could go home after spending all of my days at a predominately white school, then go home and be hated by my own kind for socializing with "those white boys". Even if it's another black man doing it, it's STILL racism.

    Deciding whether or not you want to befriend, share a drink or sleep with someone based on appearance is one thing. Denying someone basic civil rights or services because of that is another. As an adult, you should know the difference.
     
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    Well, let's look at the dictionary meaning of truth:
    1. the true or actual state of a matter: He tried to find out the truth.
    2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
    3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like: mathematical truths.
    4. the state or character of being true.
    5. actuality or actual existence.
    6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
    7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
    8. (often initial capital letter) ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience: the basic truths of life.
    9. agreement with a standard or original.
    10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
    11. Archaic. fidelity or constancy.

    Even the dictionary doesn't have one definition of truth. I can tell you things that you've never seen before, but that doesn't make them any less truthful than what you choose to believe. So, how can you assume that what you believe it to be is the only one?
     
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    But hold the majority of the nation's wealth.

    Richard Branson.
    Bill Gates.
    Donald Trump.
    The Rockefellers.
    Rupert Murdoch.

    Just to name a few...major minors.
     
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    Good point. We are talking about changing the fundamentals of the way the greatest country every conceived in human history operates in order to satisfy a select few people that could otherwise be satisfied through other means.
     
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