Why Did Wally Get Banned?

[CabbieCam]

Love how what I wrote is being taken completely out of context, even though it was clearly stated. Are LPSGs users 40% women? If not then then why the disparity? If it was reversed I can guarantee some would be screaming due to not being properly represented. I haven't had any issues yet where I have had a mod delete any of my postings, but I can forsee there being times when things could be lost in translation, or where the perspective of a mod who is of the demo they are modding would be valuable instead of just deleting/banning.

I stick to the porn and enjoy reading the drama, where it doesn't really matter who mods except for REPRESENTATION, but I would have concerns if I were trying to explain in a serious forum regarding how it felt growing up during a time in education that girls/women were given more opportunity. I know from having these sorts of discussions in the past that women have a very different perspective and if given the opportunity they would silence myself, and others. I'm not saying that WOULD happen here, but I'm certainly weary from my past experiences and likely wouldn't bother here if my assumptions regarding the demographics of this site are true.

I'm sure I'll be taken out of context again, but am curious how this time around.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Love how what I wrote is being taken completely out of context, even though it was clearly stated. Are LPSGs users 40% women? If not then then why the disparity? If it was reversed I can guarantee some would be screaming due to not being properly represented. I haven't had any issues yet where I have had a mod delete any of my postings, but I can forsee there being times when things could be lost in translation, or where the perspective of a mod who is of the demo they are modding would be valuable instead of just deleting/banning.

I stick to the porn and enjoy reading the drama, where it doesn't really matter who mods except for REPRESENTATION, but I would have concerns if I were trying to explain in a serious forum regarding how it felt growing up during a time in education that girls/women were given more opportunity. I know from having these sorts of discussions in the past that women have a very different perspective and if given the opportunity they would silence myself, and others. I'm not saying that WOULD happen here, but I'm certainly weary from my past experiences and likely wouldn't bother here if my assumptions regarding the demographics of this site are true.

I'm sure I'll be taken out of context again, but am curious how this time around.

Do you worry the same with sexual orientation? Race? Socioeconomic status? Height? Age? Why single out gender?

 

[CabbieCam]

Do you worry the same with sexual orientation? Race? Socioeconomic status? Height? Age? Why single out gender?

Because there are issues which are gendered, like what I already described. I don't know what it is to be female, or straight, or black. So, yes it is important to take these things into consideration. Maybe colour doesn't matter so much online, I'm not really sure.

If you're trying to say we're all the same and anyone should be able to be policed by anyone, I would have to disagree. Context almost always matters and that can't always be understood by someone who doesn't know what they don't know.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Because there are issues which are gendered, like what I already described. I don't know what it is to be female, or straight, or black. So, yes it is important to take these things into consideration. Maybe colour doesn't matter so much online, I'm not really sure.

If you're trying to say we're all the same and anyone should be able to be policed by anyone, I would have to disagree. Context almost always matters and that can't always be understood by someone who doesn't know what they don't know.

But you are only worried about the gendered one. Should I be worried about any of the others? Should I rally a call to change the moderation team because there are too many gay people on it? Or too little white people? Too little Americans? All these things have issues that are tiered but you don't seem concerned about it. Why?

If a moderator is a good moderator, it does not matter if they have the same demographics as you. If the team is a good team, the demographics shouldn't matter either. If one mod steps out of line, the others would deliberate and inform Mr. LPSG, the owner. The ratio is meaningless and just a way of expressing your anxiety and perceived bias against something that COULD happen. Why is YOUR concern more valid than mine? Should we change it up because.of age? If I feel like age is a big factor in understanding context and therefore the moderation team should reflect the age demographic of the site is that a reasonable change? If not why is my concern less valid than yours?

Believe it or not, there are people capable of true empathy and don't need to have directly experienced something to understand another person. I know it's rare...

 

[fournineteenfiftynine]

But you are only worried about the gendered one. Should I be worried about any of the others? Should I rally a call to change the moderation team because there are too many gay people on it? Or too little white people? Too little Americans? All these things have issues that are tiered but you don't seem concerned about it. Why?

If a moderator is a good moderator, it does not matter if they have the same demographics as you. If the team is a good team, the demographics shouldn't matter either. If one mod steps out of line, the others would deliberate and inform Mr. LPSG, the owner. The ratio is meaningless and just a way of expressing your anxiety and perceived bias against something that COULD happen. Why is YOUR concern more valid than mine? Should we change it up because.of age? If I feel like age is a big factor in understanding context and therefore the moderation team should reflect the age demographic of the site is that a reasonable change? If not why is my concern less valid than yours?

Believe it or not, there are people capable of true empathy and don't need to have directly experienced something to understand another person. I know it's rare...

Let's let this be the end of this. I agree with most of what you say here. Let's move on.

 

[CabbieCam]

But you are only worried about the gendered one. Should I be worried about any of the others? Should I rally a call to change the moderation team because there are too many gay people on it? Or too little white people? Too little Americans? All these things have issues that are tiered but you don't seem concerned about it. Why?

If a moderator is a good moderator, it does not matter if they have the same demographics as you. If the team is a good team, the demographics shouldn't matter either. If one mod steps out of line, the others would deliberate and inform Mr. LPSG, the owner. The ratio is meaningless and just a way of expressing your anxiety and perceived bias against something that COULD happen. Why is YOUR concern more valid than mine? Should we change it up because.of age? If I feel like age is a big factor in understanding context and therefore the moderation team should reflect the age demographic of the site is that a reasonable change? If not why is my concern less valid than yours?

Believe it or not, there are people capable of true empathy and don't need to have directly experienced something to understand another person. I know it's rare...

Dude, you do you. Also, I don't think empathy means what you think it does. It doesn't replace the knowledge that comes with personal experience.

I'm curious what you identify with as I don't know of many who wouldn't perfer to be moderated by someone they identify with. People who say these thingsthings aren't important are either part of a majority (straight, cis, white) or have beenbeen lucky to grow up where they haven't been persecuted for who they are.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Dude, you do you. Also, I don't think empathy means what you think it does. It doesn't replace the knowledge that comes with personal experience.

I'm curious what you identify with as I don't know of many who wouldn't perfer to be moderated by someone they identify with. People who say these thingsthings aren't important are either part of a majority (straight, cis, white) or have beenbeen lucky to grow up where they haven't been persecuted for who they are.

No, you are the one who doesn't have empathy. Empathy surpasses the need for ingroup stuff like this. I have suffered of discrimination and prejudice. I grew up in a ghetto. But empathy and true knowledge beats out the fear and ignorance of needing representation of the exact demographic to feel secure.

 

[fournineteenfiftynine]

I honestly feel that most people involved in this conversation are well meaning, good people. I think the people that came down on me were "defending" women and possibly felt that I had some sort of agenda. Which I don't. That's fine. Good for you for standing up for women and women as moderators. I sincerely applaud that even though I felt a little misunderstood. I've been around too long for that to bother me too much. But let's give Cabbie Cam a break, too. He was just expressing an opinion based on his own experience. Let's all try to be a little more empathetic. Me included.

 

[CabbieCam]

No, you are the one who doesn't have empathy. Empathy surpasses the need for ingroup stuff like this. I have suffered of discrimination and prejudice. I grew up in a ghetto. But empathy and true knowledge beats out the fear and ignorance of needing representation of the exact demographic to feel secure.

Wow, so much empathy I can practically feel it wafting off of you as you attempt to invalidate my opinion like it was some kind of personal attack against you. You obviously know nothing of me (which I am fine with) to say something as judgemental like I don't display empathy. I would argue me putting my opinion forward is due to the empathy towards others. Otherwise, I could have simply remained silent and certainly wouldn't try to explain my opinion like an adult. I'd argue you don'tdon't have quite the same motivations in trying to invalidate my opinion.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Wow, so much empathy I can practically feel it wafting off of you as you attempt to invalidate my opinion like it was some kind of personal attack against you. You obviously know nothing of me (which I am fine with) to say something as judgemental like I don't display empathy. I would argue me putting my opinion forward is due to the empathy towards others. Otherwise, I could have simply remained silent and certainly wouldn't try to explain my opinion like an adult. I'd argue you don'tdon't have quite the same motivations in trying to invalidate my opinion.

I apologize, I meant to say know empathy not have empathy. I am not invalidating your opinion but challenging you to provide logic and data to back it up as a legitimate concern. If your logic breaks when the person using it changes or one subject changed it isnt sound logic.

Also i never claim representation isn't wanted or needed in life. However moderators are not a representation of the users. If anything they are the representation of the owner.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Wow, so much empathy I can practically feel it wafting off of you as you attempt to invalidate my opinion like it was some kind of personal attack against you. You obviously know nothing of me (which I am fine with) to say something as judgemental like I don't display empathy. I would argue me putting my opinion forward is due to the empathy towards others. Otherwise, I could have simply remained silent and certainly wouldn't try to explain my opinion like an adult. I'd argue you don'tdon't have quite the same motivations in trying to invalidate my opinion.

Also, you did kind of attack me. Claiming i must be from a majority demographic or lived a good life. That is already claiming/implying that one, If I am from those demographics I can't understand, implying a lack of empathy and two, the fact that I could not want the exact demographic represented in the moderators means something is wrong with me. People of majority demographics and good lives can understand from true empathy. No one is saying empathy is the exact same as living the different life and experiences. But you don't need to have lived it to understand the perspectives nor does it mean it severely hampers your ability to be fair and just.

 

[fournineteenfiftynine]

I think the inquiry that I posted originally as the OP has never really had a good answer. The closest was by Mr. LPSG, who apparently is the "owner" whatever that means, when he said, "We had asked Wally to not post any threads about size. He posted a thread about size. Unfortunately, that is a one month ban for him."

I found that kind of lacking and somewhat vague. This is a website about size, penis size specifically. There are hundreds if not thousands of threads about size. So I kind of understand further questions about how decisions are made. I read a lot of Wally's posts and thought a vast majority were kind of "out there." But I thought it was interesting and harmless. Now if he violated some rules it would be good to know that one can't be banned because of the whim of a moderator or "the owner." So my question as the OP stands.

Why was Wally banned? Did he break a defined guideline or rule? Or did he just disobey the "owner?"

 

[4388301]

I think the inquiry that I posted originally as the OP has never really had a good answer. The closest was by Mr. LPSG, who apparently is the "owner" whatever that means, when he said, "We had asked Wally to not post any threads about size. He posted a thread about size. Unfortunately, that is a one month ban for him."

I found that kind of lacking and somewhat vague. This is a website about size, penis size specifically. There are hundreds if not thousands of threads about size. So I kind of understand further questions about how decisions are made. I read a lot of Wally's posts and thought a vast majority were kind of "out there." But I thought it was interesting and harmless. Now if he violated some rules it would be good to know that one can't be banned because of the whim of a moderator or "the owner." So my question as the OP stands.

Why was Wally banned? Did he break a defined guideline or rule? Or did he just disobey the "owner?"

Owner, as in he paid for n bought the site an manages it. No really hard to understand...............

 

[CabbieCam]

Also, you did kind of attack me. Claiming i must be from a majority demographic or lived a good life. That is already claiming/implying that one, If I am from those demographics I can't understand, implying a lack of empathy and two, the fact that I could not want the exact demographic represented in the moderators means something is wrong with me. People of majority demographics and good lives can understand from true empathy. No one is saying empathy is the exact same as living the different life and experiences. But you don't need to have lived it to understand the perspectives nor does it mean it severely hampers your ability to be fair and just.

You're making some pretty big assumptions and extrapolating things I haven't said. Nowhere did I comment what your demo might be or if you were privileged. Somehow you got that from this, "I'm curious what you identify with as I don't know of many who wouldn't perfer to be moderated by someone they identify with."

This isn't the first time you've put words in my mouth or twisted what I've said into something it isn't.

I'm fine with people disagreeing with me. I simply gave my input and you decided to jump on that, some might say it was akin to an attack. You made more statements about my opinion than asking to understand. It's like my opinion was offensive to you, which is odd to me. For these reasons I don't think I'll continue to debate/discuss this with you.

 

[cherryboom66]

I think the inquiry that I posted originally as the OP has never really had a good answer. The closest was by Mr. LPSG, who apparently is the "owner" whatever that means, when he said, "We had asked Wally to not post any threads about size. He posted a thread about size. Unfortunately, that is a one month ban for him."

I found that kind of lacking and somewhat vague. This is a website about size, penis size specifically. There are hundreds if not thousands of threads about size. So I kind of understand further questions about how decisions are made. I read a lot of Wally's posts and thought a vast majority were kind of "out there." But I thought it was interesting and harmless. Now if he violated some rules it would be good to know that one can't be banned because of the whim of a moderator or "the owner." So my question as the OP stands.

Why was Wally banned? Did he break a defined guideline or rule? Or did he just disobey the "owner?"

Putting owner in quotation marks twice? Undermining, being passive aggressive... stay classy dude

 

[fournineteenfiftynine]

Mr. LPSG and I are all good. Thanks though. As the OP, I recommend shutting this one down.