Why do gay guys always chime in on the "Asking Ladies ONLY" Threads?

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Familiarity breeds contempt. Perhaps?

You don't really think that we look at every woman as a potential fuck, do you?

I am fairly chivalrous, but then I also recognise that not all women are lovely.

That's not what I was implying, I just don't get why that is so true! It does seem that desire also in some way breeds contempt for some people. I also didn't meant to imply that no heterosexual men are chivalrous or respectful.

You don't really think I thought that did you?
 

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Yeah weirdly though Gay men are often nice to women they're frequently not very nice to one another.

I know exactly what you are talking about. However, it depends on the particular social circle.

I've been in a number of gay organizations in which everyone was respectful and courteous. These were running clubs, camping clubs, or civil rights organizations. There wasn't always agreement, which is OK (no two thinking people will always agree), but at least the usually rules of courtesy were followed. On the other hand, gay men whose only social activities revolve around bars seem more likely to be obnoxious.
 

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To be honest...I think the social skills of MANY people are very lacking these days. It amazes me when I'll hold the door...say please or thank you to people and they just freak out and look at me like I've got four heads and polka dots. I blame the internet. People aren't forced to be social one on one anymore so they are losing the basic skill of courtesy. I have to disagree with FRE on the gays and being social in bars... I think in bars its MUCH different guy to guy than guy to girl. Guys are each others competition in bars, where as females that go to gay bars are usually treated like royalty...especially if they got big boobs. :) lol As far as Gay guys reactions to one another... I think they either do not talk because they are insecure and see you as a threat or someone that MAY ignore them...hence they are less likely to talk to you or be nice... Even tho they still suck for being that way. Again..social graces are forgotten or never learned.
 

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In an open forum such as this, it seems rude to me to attempt to exclude anyone from responding to a thread!

You can't anyways... I personally respond to 'Asking ladies' questions because we as gay men have a lot of insight into women's minds and so a lot of times we respond in the same way... that's why we (generally) get along so well: we can talk about things other than business and sports, we may actually go shopping with women (and give them good advise about shoes), we can scope out the hot guys together, and we hardly ever stare at their tits (unless we are critiqung an outfit.
To be honest, I'm not really sure what you are asking.
 

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I've always been puzzled by this phenomenon. I can see no reason why gay boys wouldn't be chivalrous and respectful towards women, but seeing as how it would be in a heterosexual man's own best interest to be at least as chivalrous and respectful, I don't understand why they usually aren't.
I wonder if this isn't more pronounced in 'macho' cultures like in America, where straight men feel that expressions of courtesy and consideration are a sign of weakness, or worse, girly and gay.

Yeah weirdly though Gay men are often nice to women they're frequently not very nice to one another.
Wow, this isn't my experience at all, certainly not among gay men, generally not among straight men either. Then again, I tend to avoid and move away from meanspirited people. On sites like this it's a different problem though, as they can follow you around and are liable to pop up anywhere.
 
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To be honest...I think the social skills of MANY people are very lacking these days. It amazes me when I'll hold the door...say please or thank you to people and they just freak out and look at me like I've got four heads and polka dots. I blame the internet. People aren't forced to be social one on one anymore so they are losing the basic skill of courtesy. . . *snip* . . . Again..social graces are forgotten or never learned.
I'm sure the internet has a lot to do with it, but I think the decline in social graces started long before that. I was raised in an "Emily Post" home, and we were taught not only good manners, but kindness, courtesy, respect, and how to behave in any social situation. I am very grateful for that, and I think it's sad so much of it has been lost in our culture. This is not a knock at working women, but I think the amount of time both parents spend working outside the home has had an effect, as has the elimination of this sort of influence in the public school curriculum. It's sad. Fortunately, I live in the South, where these things are still generally practiced, at least more so than other places I've lived/been.
 
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I'm sure the internet has a lot to do with it, but I think the decline in social graces started long before that. I was raised in an "Emily Post" home, and we were taught not only good manners, but kindness, courtesy, respect, and how to behave in any social situation. I am very grateful for that, and I think it's sad so much of it has been lost in our culture. This is not a knock at working women, but I think the amount of time both parents spend working outside the home has had an effect, as has the elimination of this sort of influence in the public school curriculum. It's sad. Fortunately, I live in the South, where these things are still generally practiced, at least more so than other places I've lived/been.

Oh I totally agree... I'm a southern boy myself...just a transplant in Cali :) That's one BIG thing that I do miss about home. :)
 

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Look its VERY simple, and really not sure why some people are making a fucking issue over it. this is a site about COCK. Gay guys LOVE cock. and if there is someone here (str8 or otherwise) showing their cock, Gays will want to see it. Get over yourselves, Your cock is not a fucking prize, nor a gift. If you are putting it out there publicly, dont be so concerned with who is viewing you. You wont turn GAY if a gay guy watches you.(unless perhaps you alreay ARE?). If the gay guy contacts you and you dont want to be bothered, either be polite and tell them so, or put the guy on ignore.
Simple right ????
 

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I'm sure the internet has a lot to do with it, but I think the decline in social graces started long before that. I was raised in an "Emily Post" home, and we were taught not only good manners, but kindness, courtesy, respect, and how to behave in any social situation. I am very grateful for that, and I think it's sad so much of it has been lost in our culture. This is not a knock at working women, but I think the amount of time both parents spend working outside the home has had an effect, as has the elimination of this sort of influence in the public school curriculum. It's sad. Fortunately, I live in the South, where these things are still generally practiced, at least more so than other places I've lived/been.

I agree with this 100% I've been looking forward to moving outwest into the Rockies I'm hoping that everyone is polite like I'm used to being from NC.
 

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You can't anyways... I personally respond to 'Asking ladies' questions because we as gay men have a lot of insight into women's minds and so a lot of times we respond in the same way... that's why we (generally) get along so well: we can talk about things other than business and sports, we may actually go shopping with women (and give them good advise about shoes), we can scope out the hot guys together, and we hardly ever stare at their tits (unless we are critiqung an outfit.
To be honest, I'm not really sure what you are asking.

So true!

I wonder if this isn't more pronounced in 'macho' cultures like in America, where straight men feel that expressions of courtesy and consideration are a sign of weakness, or worse, girly and gay.

That's a good question. I don't know. I've never liked it. I hate "macho" behavior. I think it's childish, offensive, and unsophisticated and I've always suspected that men who act like that are compensating for something, some perceived imperfection in themselves that adds up to "issues" in my mind. No thank you.

I've always been attracted to polite, respectful, chivalrous men. I think the reason why I developed so many crushes on men who were obviously gay when I was very young was because I just really loved how they treated me. They were awesome and hot, too, but the way they treated me just pushed it over the top. Ah, hopeless unrequited love!

Wow, this isn't my experience at all, certainly not among gay men, generally not among straight men either. Then again, I tend to avoid and move away from meanspirited people. On sites like this it's a different problem though, as they can follow you around and are liable to pop up anywhere.

I've been told lots of stories about hostility between gay men from gay men. Lots and lots of stories! The impression I've gotten is that it's very common.
 
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Well howdy, neighbor. I'll foller up with you when I gets the chance steada takin this thread too far off topic.

I agree with this 100% I've been looking forward to moving outwest into the Rockies I'm hoping that everyone is polite like I'm used to being from NC.
Word of advice, steer clear of Colorado Springs and surrounding environs - a hotbed of radical right-wingers and Evangelical fundamentalists. Areas north of Denver, e.g. Boulder, Ft. Collins are very cool, imho.
 

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That's a good question. I don't know. I've never liked it. I hate "macho" behavior. I think it's childish, offensive, and unsophisticated and I've always suspected that men who act like that are compensating for something, some perceived imperfection in themselves that adds up to "issues" in my mind. No thank you.
Well a couple of those "issues" seem to be really apparent on this site - notably the "macho" image issue and the "compensating" issue. People try to compensate for all sorts of things I guess - looks, lack of money, education, intelligence, etc. Something that has really struck me since arriving here is how obsessed and competitive men are with their cocks, how much it defines them, and how insecure most of them seem to be about that. I always knew men were obsessed, just never realized how much they were obsessed and how universal it seems to be. Of course the main subject of the site naturally brings that into sharp focus. One of the things that's most fascinating here is how frequently that seems to be compensatory subtext to whatever else the poster is saying. :rolleyes: Most revealing.

I've always been attracted to polite, respectful, chivalrous men. I think the reason why I developed so many crushes on men who were obviously gay when I was very young was because I just really loved how they treated me. They were awesome and hot, too, but the way they treated me just pushed it over the top. Ah, hopeless unrequited love!
Don't lose hope darlin, I'll be glad to requite your love. Respectully and platonically, of course. :wink:

I've been told lots of stories about hostility between gay men from gay men. Lots and lots of stories! The impression I've gotten is that it's very common.
I'm not denying this, it just doesn't fit my personal experience that gay men are any more catty than any other group, women among women for example. It seems a bit of a stereotype. The only place I ever see this is maybe in competition for sex/romance, more so among immature guys. Otherwise, my interactions with gay, straight, mixed, men, women in social settings, bars, organizations, etc. don't suggest that any group is any more hostile than any other. But then, it may have a lot to do with where and with whom I associate. I dunno.
 
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