why do gay people want to get married so bad?

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I've been with my husband for 35 years. We got married in 2004 as soon as it became legal in Massachusetts. In fact, there are 1,138 federal benefits, rights and responsibilities associated with marriage. We'd like to be able to partake.

HowStuffWorks "Benefits of Marriage"

that article has convinced me that marriage is more of a business decision than about love
 

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damn, that's pretty messed up, do civil unions hold the same weight as marriage?
Nope......the Federal Government knows what a marriage is. Civil Unions don't exist on the Federal Level. ANOTHER Federal Court of Appeals struck down DOMA today as unconstitutional.
DOMA Ruled Unconstitutional By Federal Appeals Court

And it was REPUBLICAN appointed judges who wrote the opinion. It's just a matter of time before the Federal Government recognizes my marriage.
 

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so we all suffer for your dual fail at Halo and friend making?
great.

why would i sit around and play xbox with my friends all day? i'd rather go out and do stuff when i am with them




another thing, nobody is forcing you to "suffer" here, you could always click on one of the thousands of other threads here


btw, im more of a COD guy than halo guy
 

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Nope......the Federal Government knows what a marriage is. Civil Unions don't exist on the Federal Level. ANOTHER Federal Court of Appeals struck down DOMA today as unconstitutional.
DOMA Ruled Unconstitutional By Federal Appeals Court

And it was REPUBLICAN appointed judges who wrote the opinion. It's just a matter of time before the Federal Government recognizes my marriage.

ok, so i just learned something. i didn't realize the federal gov. wasn't yet recognizing the marriage.
 

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Nope......the Federal Government knows what a marriage is. Civil Unions don't exist on the Federal Level. ANOTHER Federal Court of Appeals struck down DOMA today as unconstitutional.
DOMA Ruled Unconstitutional By Federal Appeals Court

And it was REPUBLICAN appointed judges who wrote the opinion. It's just a matter of time before the Federal Government recognizes my marriage.

so the federal gov doesn't recognize your marriage but the state of Mass does?

sounds similar to the medical marijuana issues with the differentiation of laws on a federal and state level, which is a compete joke and shows how incontinent our government is
 

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ok, so i just learned something. i didn't realize the federal gov. wasn't yet recognizing the marriage.

so the federal gov doesn't recognize your marriage but the state of Mass does?
That's what DOMA was all about. Until the Supreme Court repeals DOMA, the FEDS can't recognize my marriage.
 

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why would i sit around and play xbox with my friends all day? i'd rather go out and do stuff when i am with them another thing, nobody is forcing you to "suffer" here, you could always click on one of the thousands of other threads here


btw, im more of a COD guy than halo guy

Pubic forum much? You do realize that the same can go for you. You really don't have to reply to comments.
 

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Pubic forum much? You do realize that the same can go for you. You really don't have to reply to comments.

yeah its a public forum, but nobody is holding a gun to you, me or anyone else's head to click on something

if someone is really suffering from a thread, they're choosing to suffer by clicking on it, they get no sympathy from me no matter how hard they try to troll
 

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would it be illegal for a gay couple not from mass, to get married there and then go live somewhere else where it's not recognized? and is it only recognized in that state?

a couple not from mass can get married in mass, but, it's legal in mass and the other states that recognize. if their state hasn't legalized then no.

i don't know all of the states that allow. but, connecticut, iowa, vermont, new hampshire and dc. allow.
 

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i think there's a big difference between marriage and civil union.... to be married is to ceremonially and unconditionally share in and express love for another person, and the other person for them.... plenty of gay couples in love were having 'weddings' and living 'married life' before same-sex civil unions came to be.... adding the civil aspect to same-sex marriage simply imposes certain rights and benefits to said couples so that in the event of an emergency or civil matter, spouses can be recognized as next of kin, have power of attorney, or be able to fairly distribute wealth and equity.... interesting still is the fact that many couples (especially those who get married multiple times) have their union ceremonies in front of a justice of the peace and don't perform formal weddings at all.... my dad for instance was married 3 times in his lifetime but only had one formal wedding ceremony.... i can definitely agree though that there are many couples (gay and straight) who get married as a business arrangement, and when one looks in to it historically, that's been going on for centuries.... wealthy families and aristocracy will often unionize members as a merger of sorts, which in turnh creates quite the dynasty.... and trust me: love had NOTHING to do with it.... while it's all seemingly a clusterfuck, people are going to do what they're going to do, and they won't know that until it happens....

to the OP: i hope that puts a little perspective on your question....
 

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would it be illegal for a gay couple not from mass, to get married there and then go live somewhere else where it's not recognized? and is it only recognized in that state?
It's crazy. Any gay couples from the United States can some to Massachusetts and get married. It's perfectly legal. But they, as well as myself, are only legally married should we find ourselves in one of the 8 States Plus D.C. that recognize our marriages. In any other state we are legally unrelated to each other.
 

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i think there's a big difference between marriage and civil union.... to be married is to ceremonially and unconditionally share in and express love for another person, and the other person for them.... plenty of gay couples in love were having 'weddings' and living 'married life' before same-sex civil unions came to be.... adding the civil aspect to same-sex marriage simply imposes certain rights and benefits to said couples so that in the event of an emergency or civil matter, spouses can be recognized as next of kin, have power of attorney, or be able to fairly distribute wealth and equity.... interesting still is the fact that many couples (especially those who get married multiple times) have their union ceremonies in front of a justice of the peace and don't perform formal weddings at all.... my dad for instance was married 3 times in his lifetime but only had one formal wedding ceremony.... i can definitely agree though that there are many couples (gay and straight) who get married as a business arrangement, and when one looks in to it historically, that's been going on for centuries.... wealthy families and aristocracy will often unionize members as a merger of sorts, which in turnh creates quite the dynasty.... and trust me: love had NOTHING to do with it.... while it's all seemingly a clusterfuck, people are going to do what they're going to do, and they won't know that until it happens....

to the OP: i hope that puts a little perspective on your question....

it does, thanks for the response !
 

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Industrialsize: why not move to canada? not only are same-sex marriages recognized everywhere here, we don't carry handguns and will recognize your civil union (if performed here) so that you can legally divorce anywhere else in the world!
 

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It's crazy. Any gay couples from the United States can some to Massachusetts and get married. It's perfectly legal. But they, as well as myself, are only legally married should we find ourselves in one of the 8 States Plus D.C. that recognize our marriages. In any other state we are legally unrelated to each other.

wow... so theoretically you could go on a road trip with your husband and cross a state where it is not recognized, lets say (not hoping this would happen, just a hypothetical question) something happens like a car accident, would that hospital recognize you or your husband as married or not?
 

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Does it even matter why they wanna get married. Why do impoverished people wanna eat? This issue has only intensified in the media. It's sad but true. The Urgency is simply because it's time.