Why do guys make such a big thing about age

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I feel if OP was the actual rare 19 yo whom demonstrated traits that appealed to older men that actually have their stuff together and have benevolent intentions, that is the attention he would receive.

I've never met anyone of any age who "actually has their stuff together." At most that's only a pretense. An act. A mask. A veneer. Often a thin one.

This leaves only your ageist prejudice on the table.

"Date yourself" is code for date your own age. Stay in your own lane. It's no different that saying date your own race, religion, ethnicity, etc. It perpetuates old social and cultural taboos which, thankfully, are dying out.
 

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Hi,

I am a 19 year old twink ish looking guy - very lean/ toned. I generally don’t have a type for the guy I’m looking for but usually end up being interested in older guys, since our conversations tend to be more flowy and we get along quite well.

however lately most guys I’ve been interested seem to like my body and notice my maturity and are very interested in my looks and brains and what I have to offer…. But when they realise that I’m 19 they seem disinterested and tend to move away from the conversation.

what is wrong with being a 19 year old :/

If any of you guys could leave some advice or maybe opinions ♥️
the majority of 19 year olds I had, were seeking attention and wanted to show off, leaving no space for affection or intimacy.... it made me nervous..... older guys don't need that. a big percentage at least. maybe this is the reason.... but then not all guys are the same for sure.

chill out, there s nothing to worry about. u will find the right guy sooner or later
 

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"Date yourself" is code for date your own age. Stay in your own lane. It's no different that saying date your own race, religion, ethnicity, etc. It perpetuates old social and cultural taboos which, thankfully, are dying out.
In OPs specific case, "date yourself" refers to his peers, this supposed unicorn pool of young educated go getters. You dont acquire that level of education, travel in that type of fashion, or produce Insta and OF content successfully or sustained without having a network of some sort...so I suspect his inability to date is mirror image perhaps may give him insight as to why another demographic doesn't value him as much as he feels he should be.
The default for dating and relationships tends to be quite homogenous amongst racial, religious, ethnic and aged lines, I just happen to think OP needs to absorb a few lessons in being a stable relationship asset to someone, before blaming ageism for his woes, no different that I would tell a black man whom thinks he's owed a non black woman because of his inability to attract a black one.
 

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In OPs specific case, "date yourself" refers to his peers, this supposed unicorn pool of young educated go getters. You dont acquire that level of education, travel in that type of fashion, or produce Insta and OF content successfully or sustained without having a network of some sort...so I suspect his inability to date is mirror image perhaps may give him insight as to why another demographic doesn't value him as much as he feels he should be.
The default for dating and relationships tends to be quite homogenous amongst racial, religious, ethnic and aged lines, I just happen to think OP needs to absorb a few lessons in being a stable relationship asset to someone, before blaming ageism for his woes, no different that I would tell a black man whom thinks he's owed a non black woman because of his inability to attract a black one.

If nothing else we all know why you make such a big thing about age. :)
 

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If nothing else we all know why you make such a big thing about age. :)
I'm not going to lie, I've always thought relationships with wide age gaps are a bit ick...more so once I had children. I'll acquiesce not every situation is inherently predatory nor dysfunctional, but I do note the only people that seem to take offense to my opinions on the matter are extremely young people unable to make healthy relationships with those their own age, and older people who don't seem to want their dating pool under scrutiny.
 

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Hi,

I am a 19 year old twink ish looking guy - very lean/ toned. I generally don’t have a type for the guy I’m looking for but usually end up being interested in older guys, since our conversations tend to be more flowy and we get along quite well.

however lately most guys I’ve been interested seem to like my body and notice my maturity and are very interested in my looks and brains and what I have to offer…. But when they realise that I’m 19 they seem disinterested and tend to move away from the conversation.

what is wrong with being a 19 year old :/

If any of you guys could leave some advice or maybe opinions ♥️
very sexy young man and I like what i see and what you say.
 

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Interesting discussion!

I think that maybe the issues we’re straddling here are age/sexual attraction/intelligence versus Life Experiences. And, my guess is that many of the “older” men that the OP mentions who find him physically attractive and mentally compatible (at least as far as basic conversation goes), take flight when they learn that he is 19 because they then realize that at that age, his personality is perhaps not as fully-formed as they would hope.

While many (most?) 19 year olds today perhaps don’t have a clue as to where they want to go in life, others can and do have a pretty good idea and plan as to where they want to go and who they want to be. I’ll quote the OP: “I work I study and I know where my life is headed”. I’m sure that he does. It sounds like he’s doing quite a bit already to support his goals. And, I congratulate him for that.

However, his confidence in himself belies the fact that at 19 he hasn’t yet had enough of the “hard knocks” in life that may push him off his planned course. He’ll spend the next decades learning a lot about Life, and about himself…and may make many changes and course corrections as to “where my life is headed”. Additionally, a number of his own ideas and opinions will change—sometimes radically.

In that respect, I think that most “older” men—myself included—tend to find that over-confidence in youth can be a bit of a turn-off after the first flush of interest when the conversation starts getting into deeper territory. The older man finds the younger man’s confidence just a bit too smug when he realizes that the younger man hasn’t really “lived” yet—particularly because a lot of the intelligence and opinions the younger man speaks about aren’t based on tangible experiences. And, conversely, the younger man will tend to look at some of the older man’s foibles and opinions as “dated” or otherwise false based on his own limited experiences. He can’t yet fathom what has made the older man who and what he is because he hasn’t been buffeted by the same experiences yet.

Before I retired, I was employed in a “creative” industry where I worked with and directed people (male and female) much younger than myself. And, I saw this dynamic daily in the work situation…and heard about it often in discussions (very similar to the OP’s comments) about life outside of work.

If two people really like and respect each other, and a deeper bond develops over time, those issues can be surmounted. But, it doesn’t usually happen because one side or the other will tend to back away when they realize that their Life Experiences don’t match up. Which is what is happening with the OP, it seems.
 

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I'm not going to lie, I've always thought relationships with wide age gaps are a bit ick...more so once I had children. I'll acquiesce not every situation is inherently predatory nor dysfunctional, but I do note the only people that seem to take offense to my opinions on the matter are extremely young people unable to make healthy relationships with those their own age, and older people who don't seem to want their dating pool under scrutiny.

You think the same as people who think interracial relationships, same sex relationships, interethnic relationships and inter-religious relationships are "a bit ick" or worse.

It's an attitude which perpetuates sexual repression and drives it underground through shame and guilt. As so often happens it's driven by fear for your own children. I sure you did a good job repressing them sexually and passing your other prejudices along.

Scrutiny? Do your children know their dad hangs out at porn site?
 

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You think the same as people who think interracial relationships, same sex relationships, interethnic relationships and inter-religious relationships are "a bit ick" or worse.
I don't have any issue with any of those constructs. Age gaps are very different, and yet again it's telling who is so eager to defend them so readily.
 

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Scrutiny? Do your children know their dad hangs out at porn site?
At least one is teenaged, on BC and mildly sexually active with her similarly aged bf. Me being on a porn site is probably the least of her concerns when it comes to me and her mother's sex life. Fairly sure she's walked in accidentally or heard us enough times that if we had a low key OF she wouldn't be too shocked...the other is 7 and scolds us when we get hands, so I guess no, he doesn't know.....the scandal!!
 

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At least one is teenaged, on BC and mildly sexually active with her similarly aged bf. Me being on a porn site is probably the least of her concerns when it comes to me and her mother's sex life. Fairly sure she's walked in accidentally or heard us enough times that if we had a low key OF she wouldn't be too shocked...the other is 7 and scolds us when we get hands, so I guess no, he doesn't know.....the scandal!!

Nice dodge.
 

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There's a vast difference between someone who behaves in a mature way and someone who also has shared similar life experiences. I recently met someone who had never had operated a cassette player, tied a necktie, ever purchased a CD or opened a champagne bottle. It was a funny "hmmmm" moment. But there are countless micro examples that are much more subtle.

There's a huge difference in maturity and experience between 19-23 age range and the kind of guys you'll meet who are above 24-25. If I were you, I'd aim for a guy around the age of 24. They should have their act together by then, and the life experiences are similar enough but the age spread isn't so massive that it's creepy.
 

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Thank you everyone that contributed to this discussion as much as I was confused in the beginning I still am now… only with the difference that now I can see maybe a better perspective and can understand a bit more what an older guy might think.

Totally understandable the comment where an older guy might want someone with more life experience but you wouldn’t know my life experience if you don’t chat with me….

I know a countless of older guys that I’ve done more than them in life. There are guys who stay in their parents home and then inherit it and have no clue on how to buy a home. Guys who have never traveled or traveled minimally where as I have travelled both for vacation, work and competitions. There are guys who don’t know how to fend for them yet where as I have not have the chance to do it permanently I have had small chances in my life where I had to.

At the end of the day people need to realise that age is just a number, it does not determine experience, knowledge, money, intelligence, common sense, achievements, etc. it simply determines how long you’ve been in this world, but it does not determine what you’ve done.

anyways cheers guys ❤️
 

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Totally understandable the comment where an older guy might want someone with more life experience but you wouldn’t know my life experience if you don’t chat with me….
This is where your age speaks volumes...while your accomplishments may age you a bit, it doesn't deride fron the fact that you don't know a world without smartphones and high speed internet...nobody needs to chat with you to already understand the depths of different mindset you grew into.

I know a countless of older guys that I’ve done more than them in life. There are guys who stay in their parents home and then inherit it and have no clue on how to buy a home. Guys who have never traveled or traveled minimally where as I have travelled both for vacation, work and competitions.
So again this is where your complaints mirror those of heterosexual women...why on earth would you reference the opinions or standpoint of men you aren't interested in? You're obviously very proud of your accomplishments and lifestyle, and are looking for someone on your level or better, so shouldn't your view of these aforementioned men be the same as you have for your like aged peers? Or are you incensed that these unaccomplished older men would dare reject you on the mere basis of age when you have so much else to offer?
 
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Hello Matt, I am at the opposite end of the age spectrum from you. I have been retired longer that you have been drawing breath. I experience some of the same tbings as you as far as age is concerned. I am healthy, very energetic, have a very high libido and the stamina to back it up. I have played with men less than half my age. Many have commented and complimented me about seeming to be much younger that the calendar indicates. I feel age is just a number. Of course I have been where you are and someday all or most all will be where I am. Wish you the best. Life is too short to get caught up in discrimination.
Agree wholeheartedly