Why do so many black males and females hate their own race?

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Because society treats us like shit. I think by disliking your own race, you feel that you have a 'piece' of another race. Honestly, imagine growing up where 90% of beautiful people in media are considered white, or some very off brand of white. Rarely are black people put to the same light. Eventually, that his your psyche and you start repeating the cycle.
 
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I am just going to leave this here.

Maybe what @LutherCorps is speaking from is his own anecdotal experience as a black man.
Personally as a black man as well I have experienced some of this self-hatred that black people experience toward one another, however I wouldn't say it isn't as prevalent as it is in any other ethnic group. We, as American's, just do not necessarily see it because of the media bubble that we, usually, are surrounded by. News/media out lets do not typically show instances of inter-racial disputes outside of the U.S.because that's just so micro compared to everything else that they could grab at for a headline, but I digress.

In my personal opinion I think this gentleman is projecting something that he is internalizing.
It's unfortunate.
 

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I guess this would be right part of the forum to put this in. So many black females bleach their skin tone lighter, cut up their face, walk around with a blonde wig so they can look less black and more white. So many black females downing black males like they aren't good enough just to exclusively date somebody with lighter skin tone especially if they are white. So many black males downing black women just to run to some race with lighter skin tone especially if it is white. Of course some of you will try to use the everybody has a right to have their own preference and that isn't self racism or hatred.

Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

It doesn't say any where in the definition that if you have a personal preference then that excludes you from being a racist.

But anyway as a black male it disturbs me to see how many black people have that mindset toward other black people. Which is why I find the black lives matter movement so funny since the typical black person hates being black more than the racist KKK member ever hated blacks.
 

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YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN!!!!!, IT'S THE NON BLACKS THAT HATE US, WHY ELSE WOULD SO MAN NON BLACK WOMEN, SEARCH AND TROLL FOR THE BLACK ANACONDA MUST BLACK MEN HAVE. ALSO WE ARE FEARD BECAUSE OF OUT SUPERIOR ATHLETIC ABILITIES, OUR UNIQUENESS. NO SOCIETY HATE US BECAUSE THE WANT TO BE BLACK. THE SOLUTION IS ENHANCED PRISON TIMES, AND PUSH US TO VIOLENCE AGAINST OURSELVES, SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAN FEEL IMPORTANT.


STOP DRINKING THE HATER AID AND EAT A DICK
 
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I will add that a not insignificant amount of the people who have responded in this thread are people of color. Black, Latino, and Asian at a minimum, so it's not like we don't have some insight into race issues from the people of color side. Plenty of other races/demographics self-hate, it's not exclusive to any one of them.

As for why it happens, I can only venture to guess it's done for the same reason that the OP posts some racist things then questions racism. What that actual reason is, I have no idea.
 
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Because society treats us like shit. I think by disliking your own race, you feel that you have a 'piece' of another race. Honestly, imagine growing up where 90% of beautiful people in media are considered white, or some very off brand of white. Rarely are black people put to the same light. Eventually, that his your psyche and you start repeating the cycle.
People are susceptible to societal pressures and norms, but anyone who accepts that ideal as being beautiful, and accepts it as the only ideal, just cannot see beauty.
Also this: Grace Jones, or ten random samey blonde actresses? It's a no brainer. Genuine breathtaking aesthetic beauty is striking, noticeable, different. Cookie-cutter, barbie doll, acceptability just isn't really.
 
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People are susceptible to societal pressures and norms, but anyone who accepts that ideal as being beautiful, and accepts it as the only ideal, just cannot see beauty.
Also this: Grace Jones, or ten random samey blonde actresses? It's a no brainer. Genuine breathtaking aesthetic beauty is striking, noticeable, different. Cookie-cutter, barbie doll, acceptability just isn't really.
I agree with you completely. But, the history of the world has given a huge advantage to white people. If a black guy is successful (becomes a doctor, celeb, etc) there's a good chance he'll have a white woman. Not a lot of people value a black woman. They don't even value a black man aside from his dick. But colonialism has completely distorted what people value.

Especially when you go abroad, there are people that would rather have an overweight, unattractive white woman than a beautiful black lady. Beauty exists where man thinks it exists. As long as certain people are put on a pedestal, they will remain there.
 
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I agree with you completely. But, the history of the world has given a huge advantage to white people. If a black guy is successful (becomes a doctor, celeb, etc) there's a good chance he'll have a white woman. Not a lot of people value a black woman. They don't even value a black man aside from his dick. But colonialism has completely distorted what people value.

Especially when you go abroad, there are people that would rather have an overweight, unattractive white woman than a beautiful black lady. Beauty exists where man thinks it exists. As long as certain people are put on a pedestal, they will remain there.
I notice that a lot of black music totally denigrates black women and just women in general actually. (It's something I've said on this site before). I don't know if this might be more of an American culture thing or not. Black men are unfairly treated in society, but it's almost like they've got to have someone lower down the pecking order than they are to pass the hate on to. These are just my generalized perceptions of pop-culture though.
I live in a very white town, even though it's a lot less white than it was 8 years ago. I think the majority of the black men here do work in the local hospital, but I think it would be weird if I tried to conduct a survey to find out what colour their wives were.
Could there not also be a simpler explanation if there is a phenomena where black men marry white women and vice versa? Mixed race children are more likely to be taller, more intelligent, less likely to have inherited genetic diseases etc. For the purpose of passing on your genes it makes sense for the parents to be genetically diverse. Perhaps people have evolved with the instinct to choose a partner who is simply not likely to be a genetic relative.
 
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I notice that a lot of black music totally denigrates black women and just women in general actually. (It's something I've said on this site before). I don't know if this might be more of an American culture thing or not. Black men are unfairly treated in society, but it's almost like they've got to have someone lower down the pecking order than they are to pass the hate on to. These are just my generalized perceptions of pop-culture though.

Although such music exists and has an audience, I tried googling and was unsuccessful in finding any estimate about how broadly consumed that music is, nor any demographics about race (e.g. are black youth any more or less likely to listen to music with sexist lyrics than white youth).

I live in a very white town, even though it's a lot less white than it was 8 years ago. I think the majority of the black men here do work in the local hospital, but I think it would be weird if I tried to conduct a survey to find out what colour their wives were.
Could there not also be a simpler explanation if there is a phenomena where black men marry white women and vice versa? Mixed race children are more likely to be taller, more intelligent, less likely to have inherited genetic diseases etc. For the purpose of passing on your genes it makes sense for the parents to be genetically diverse. Perhaps people have evolved with the instinct to choose a partner who is simply not likely to be a genetic relative.

That wouldn't explain discrepancies on the basis of gender (if as a species we're increasingly selecting partners based on optimal immune system outcomes, Black F / White M pairings should be as common as Black M white F pairings, but they are very different).

When we're talking about the behavior of groups of people rather than specific individuals, I think it makes the most sense to take it for granted that race and culture are both relevant to the statistics.

The relevance of culture can be seen pretty clearly in interracial marriage statistics among native born -vs- foreign born persons of color. The odds of an Asian or Hispanic American marrying a member of another race are twice as high if they were born in the USA as compared to being born elsewhere and moving here. The same legal freedom exists in both cases, the same benefits for offspring are there, but culturally, people born and raised in the US are more open to marrying someone of another race than people raised abroad.

I don't think an abstract value is assigned in the way LGX depicts. Rather, I think culturally, the preconceptions that black men have about white women are less likely to preclude them from being considered as a partner than the preconceptions that white men have about black women. Speaking in general terms, I think men have a preference for passive/submissive women and the preconceptions are that Black women are less likely to have those qualities than white women and Asian women are more likely to have them.

You can see those preconceptions at play in some of the threads that scroll through here. I know you've seen Sangheili's threads waxing poetic about the virtues of Hispanic women because he considers them to be more likely to respect his authoritah than entitled white women.
 
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I can only hope that this is a joke thread. Ali G comes to mind in fact. I'm guessing you ain't black, and the irony of you wanting to keep your bloodlines clear is not lost on us. @wallyj84 will be sad to have lost this weeks trolling award, but what can I say? Bravo.

The thread title screams “Do Not Enter” a troubled soul lives here. Save yourself and back away.
 

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Just thought I’d let everyone know that “LutherCorps” is a career racist troll who’s all over Internet forums with regard to this stuff. Here, YouTube, Reddit, you name it he’s probably on it.

He was “georgeforeman804” on Reddit and if you look up basically any YouTube video regarding porn stars and/or penis size, he’s probably in the comment section under the name “Chris Warren” spewing outlandishly racist stuff that he knows would get him banned here in the blink of an eye. Anyone can look this up or back check if they wish to do so. Why he’s a racist, I have no idea, but I’d wager he’s probably had things in his own life that led him to this point. But that’s still no excuse

Don’t bother engaging with him. He’s not out for answers, he’s out for a fight.
 

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Just thought I’d let everyone know that “LutherCorps” is a career racist troll who’s all over Internet forums with regard to this stuff. Here, YouTube, Reddit, you name it he’s probably on it.

He was “georgeforeman804” on Reddit and if you look up basically any YouTube video regarding porn stars and/or penis size, he’s probably in the comment section under the name “Chris Warren” spewing outlandishly racist stuff that he knows would get him banned here in the blink of an eye. Anyone can look this up or back check if they wish to do so. Why he’s a racist, I have no idea, but I’d wager he’s probably had things in his own life that led him to this point. But that’s still no excuse

Don’t bother engaging with him. He’s not out for answers, he’s out for a fight.

Just for my own curiosity's sake, how'd you track him across multiple account names?
 
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Just for my own curiosity's sake, how'd you track him across multiple account names?

He’s on all the “measures porn stars” and size related threads & multiple posters have pretty well concluded that he’s all over the net with this stuff. Same rhetoric, phrases, opinions, usage of words, etc.
 

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Just a couple little excerpts from his Reddit account for those w/o the desire to Google it themselves:

“Lol right a white faggot who has a thing for white dudes telling me I have a hard one for black guys? Typical stupid white faggot logic”

But as I said because you are a white faggot who loves to ass fuck yourself with big dildos and Danny Dong a white closet faggot is your hero.”

https://www.reddit.com/user/georgeforeman804/comments

So, yeah...........

 
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