Why do so many black males and females hate their own race?

[LGX]

I notice that a lot of black music totally denigrates black women and just women in general actually. (It's something I've said on this site before). I don't know if this might be more of an American culture thing or not. Black men are unfairly treated in society, but it's almost like they've got to have someone lower down the pecking order than they are to pass the hate on to. These are just my generalized perceptions of pop-culture though.
I live in a very white town, even though it's a lot less white than it was 8 years ago. I think the majority of the black men here do work in the local hospital, but I think it would be weird if I tried to conduct a survey to find out what colour their wives were.
Could there not also be a simpler explanation if there is a phenomena where black men marry white women and vice versa? Mixed race children are more likely to be taller, more intelligent, less likely to have inherited genetic diseases etc. For the purpose of passing on your genes it makes sense for the parents to be genetically diverse. Perhaps people have evolved with the instinct to choose a partner who is simply not likely to be a genetic relative.

Part of it is perceived success. If you think that X trait would give them a better chance, then you'd go for it. Survival of the fittest.

For example, there are a lot of non-black minorities that would pretty much disown their child for going black. The perception is that if the child is mixed with black then they would be 'tainted' in some way or not as successful.

Even as a bisexual black man, there are a lot of black guys that would not date/have sex with me because a lot of them have self hate. If you've ever seen an interview about a minority person experiencing discrimination in the gay community, 90% of the time they are talking about discrimination from white guys...but they do the same thing to their own race. I'm into a lot of different races and care more about the person than the race. But many people think that there is this perpetual totem pole to climb and will step on other races (including their own) to get to the top.

 

[TexanStar]

Part of it is perceived success. If you think that X trait would give them a better chance, then you'd go for it. Survival of the fittest.

For example, there are a lot of non-black minorities that would pretty much disown their child for going black. The perception is that if the child is mixed with black then they would be 'tainted' in some way or not as successful.

That's not really how attraction works though.. Like people aren't sitting there and trying to evaluate the statistical likelihood for their offspring to do better or worse with one person -vs- another.

People who are trying to verbalize their disapproval of interracial relationships will often go that route (third parties), but the people who are considering whether or not another person is attractive to them don't usually consider it. Demographic data from the US census plays 0 role in who I am attracted to.

 

[AlteredEgo]

the typical black person hates being black

This is a racist overgeneralization that in no way matches.my experience.

What matches my experience is that lots of people are self-loathing. Lots of self-loathing folk see boogeymen and other people who hate them too, everywhere. Like the guy who told me he he wasn't planning to approach me and was surprised by my interest because he thought I "looked high maintenance, and like you probably only talk to white cats". And let's not forget the dude I was dismissive toward because I was already engaged AND I was about to miss my bus. He shouted at me that he was ugly and dark, and I would talk to him if he was cute and white. Frankly, he was fine as all get out and I was both spoken for, and busy, none of which had anything to do with him.

I have a strong preference for black men. I was raised in a pro-black household. I grew up being told skin like mine, and that of my closest relatives (all shades of brown) was the prettiest, most desirable, and the message clearly took root. I am most attracted to black and brown folks. Doesn't mean I haven't been absolutely infatuated or in love with some white people. I have. But I do like dark brown skin best. Most of the women I know don't have a preference in way or the other. Birds of a feather flock together though. We like nerds. You come up and drop some science and you've got the whole table's attention.

 

[950483]

Part of it is perceived success. If you think that X trait would give them a better chance, then you'd go for it. Survival of the fittest.

For example, there are a lot of non-black minorities that would pretty much disown their child for going black. The perception is that if the child is mixed with black then they would be 'tainted' in some way or not as successful.

Even as a bisexual black man, there are a lot of black guys that would not date/have sex with me because a lot of them have self hate. If you've ever seen an interview about a minority person experiencing discrimination in the gay community, 90% of the time they are talking about discrimination from white guys...but they do the same thing to their own race. I'm into a lot of different races and care more about the person than the race. But many people think that there is this perpetual totem pole to climb and will step on other races (including their own) to get to the top.

Until I was in my 20s I was blissfully unaware that different minorities hated and discriminated against other minorities. It just never occurred to me because it makes no sense at all.

 

[TinyPrincess]

I must admit I was shocked the first time I experienced racism in America - you guys, really have some issues.

I've always experienced curiosity about my colour and background but it has always been positive

 

[TexanStar]

I must admit I was shocked the first time I experienced racism in America - you guys, really have some issues.

I cannot disagree with that

 

[TinyPrincess]

Happy I'm European

 

[950483]

That's not really how attraction works though.. Like people aren't sitting there and trying to evaluate the statistical likelihood for their offspring to do better or worse with one person -vs- another.

People who are trying to verbalize their disapproval of interracial relationships will often go that route (third parties), but the people who are considering whether or not another person is attractive to them don't usually consider it. Demographic data from the US census plays 0 role in who I am attracted to.

No, but their parents would be likely to. My mother was thrown out of home at the age of (TOS) for having a black boyfriend. Several of her sisters stood up for her and were thrown out too. My grandfather wasn't just simply racist, I'm not even sure how much that came into it to honest. He was way over the top about a hell of a lot of things, but there would be a sound reason underlying it that had more to do with the world in which they all had to live rather than his own prejudices.

 

[950483]

I must admit I was shocked the first time I experienced racism in America - you guys, really have some issues.

I've always experienced curiosity about my colour and background but it has always been positive

That's because it's fascinating. It's a fascination I picked up from friends who were complicated combinations of mixed race. I found that people who I just assumed to be white british very often weren't. Being mixed race themselves, they were able to just ask others about their racial heritage, whereas I can't because it just comes of as racist as hell. I have a fascination with skin tones from an artists perspective, and often I love hearing the epic adventure stories behind who emigrated from where and for what reasons.

 

[MuscledHorse]

The initial question is too generalized and to address it correctly and clearly it really separates into three categories. First, the obvious surface issue of people going after a different race for perceived social/status benefits, which IMHO is what the OP is focusing on. Then there are those whose learned racial prejudices color their dating or sex partner selections. The third group finds specific traits about a person appealing (body type, race, hair color, etc.) I fall into the latter category. I have had sex with males from every race on the planet and pretty much every body type, multiple times but if I'm held to what really rev's my engine as a white muscular male it is hands down black males. They are the hottest most beautiful creatures on the planet and as soon as i am naked with one I am absolutly a pile of fukable jello I am so happy. So, in my case, if you see a black guy with me, it's not because he hates his own race it's because we are highly attracted each other.

 

[LutherCorps]

Lol I am pretty sure none of the responses have anything to do with the original question I ask. Which is why I am not going to even bother reading anything that is typed anymore. So do continue.

 

[MisterB]

Lol I am pretty sure none of the responses have anything to do with the original question I ask. Which is why I am not going to even bother reading anything that is typed anymore. So do continue.

Bye Felicia...

 

[950483]

Bye Felicia...

I think you mean bye Felipe.

 

[MisterB]

I think you mean bye Felipe.

LOL!

Actually, I really did mean Felicia, because as soon as I read that posting I responded to, it was my first thought, and well, I just had to go there. Kinda like in this clip:

 

[deleted1072631]

Assimilation and assuming the actions of others is what's holding THEM back and not themselves.

 

[lookatthat]

Lol I am pretty sure none of the responses have anything to do with the original question I ask. Which is why I am not going to even bother reading anything that is typed anymore. So do continue.

Clearly you're angling for a particular answer to an oddly posed question. Are you suggesting that "MANY" black women are disguising themselves as white women? Like, "Oh, shit. Wow, you're BLACK? I always thought you were white. With your cut face, blonde wig, and bleached skin." Because that has happened in my life just countless times, whoops, I mean "MANY" times.

Are you truly asking "Why are trends trends?" "Why are fashions fashions?" "Why are subcultures self-referential in a way outsiders don't understand?" "Why do civilizations culturally appropriate from their own differing communities?" "Why do young people want to look older?" "Why do older people want to look younger?" "Does the majority popular culture influence the minority cultures?" And, "How does all of this impact indivudals' particular relationship decisions?" Because if you are, and I think you're not, the answer isn't easily found on a big dick web site. I think you have a story to peddle and an agenda, and this is all about you.
If you really want to know the above answers, easiest way to go is to read "Star Bellied Sneetches" by Dr. Seuss.

I think the bigger, more pertinent question has to do with your pervasive use of "male" and "female," when "men" and "women" is way more appropriate. It's fucking bizarre.
Also, check it out. Usage of language is also a cultural marker that is familiar to one and foreign to another. (Still, it reads bizarrely. Spoken, it'd be odd, but written down it's just strange to read.) Would you be bent out of shape if one of your neighbors used "men" to refer to men instead of "males?"

 

[Mr Goodwin]

The guy who created this thread LutherCorps has been on LPSG since 2011, he has had hundreds of different accounts. He turns up here every few weeks or months and peddles the same racist BS.

Some of his previous accounts:

DonaldHump
iruleyou
AlBundy
The5timeWCWChampion
Chris Warren

If he is not peddling race, he is on the measuredpornstars thread, where he has had over the years about sixty different accounts saying the same things every time. MODs get active. Why do you let this guy to slip through registration and post every time? Most people here know who he is.

 

[328982]

The guy who created this thread LutherCorps has been on LPSG since 2011, he has had hundreds of different accounts. He turns up here every few weeks or months and peddles the same racist BS.

Some of his previous accounts:

DonaldHump
iruleyou
AlBundy
The5timeWCWChampion
Chris Warren

If he is not peddling race, he is on the measuredpornstars thread, where he has had over the years about sixty different accounts saying the same things every time. MODs get active. Why do you let this guy to slip through registration and post every time? Most people here know who he is.

 

[328982]

Oops, aka Lionel Luther and Elway among others. Not only racism. He peddles the same 'straight is straight is straight' mantra everywhere (maybe to compensate for the fact that he's on a big dick site sizing up dicks all day) and the same people who are calling him out for simple-minded racist bullshit actually agree with him on that.

 

[328982]

I think the bigger, more pertinent question has to do with your pervasive use of "male" and "female," when "men" and "women" is way more appropriate. It's fucking bizarre.
Also, check it out. Usage of language is also a cultural marker that is familiar to one and foreign to another. (Still, it reads bizarrely. Spoken, it'd be odd, but written down it's just strange to read.) Would you be bent out of shape if one of your neighbors used "men" to refer to men instead of "males?"

I think he does that for the same reason he quotes dictionary definitions - insecurity. And the hope that using 'correct' or more proper language forms will lend his views authority.