Why do so many people get upset at trump because of his immigration stance yet.

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Have no problem with countries like India, China, Russia, Italy, Korea, Japan, Mexico, Puerto Rico, and various south American countries having the same stance about blacks living in their countries? You can go to YouTube and type in racism in the countries name and see these people calling black people call kinds of slurs and saying they don't want black people in their countries. I was watching one video about racism in soccer and in countries like Italy and Poland they throw banana's on the field and make monkey sounds at black players. I don't remember anybody being concerned.

Then when these immigrants come to USA they will either make racial slurs against black people or they will attack black people and I don't recall anybody having a problem with it. These same female social justice warriors who constantly complain if you say anything about a gay person, a immigrant, or white female never complain when white males are discriminated against or when black people are discriminated against.
 

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I can't relate.

I'm absolutely against racism *no *matter *where the fuck it happens. I'm against Trump and his bigot, misogynist punk-ass.

Weird-ass thread.. :neutral:

Funny since this thread isn't about Donald Trump. But Trump is a racist? Well does that make Hillary Clinton who said the same stuff Trump said? It is okay for her to say it because she is a white female? Also Trump a misogynist? Because he made a joke that some females will let you grab them in the pussy if you have a enough power? Yeah because clearly females never joke around about males body parts with their friends.

In any case this thread is how the same people who attack Trump because of his immigration stance have no problem with immigrants not wanting blacks in their country.
 

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The thread isn't about Trump, but you mentioned him in the thread title... So, yeah.

I call out Trump's bullshit immigration status, And call out the bullshit racism that happens in other countries.

Don't speak for me. I DO have a problem with anyone who says "I don't want blacks in my country".

And it's fucking stupid for anyone immigrating to this country to come here if that's the case. There are black people in America. They are not going anywhere, and they damn well don't fucking have to.
 

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Well does that make Hillary Clinton who said the same stuff Trump said? It is okay for her to say it because she is a white female? Also Trump a misogynist? Because he made a joke that some females will let you grab them in the pussy if you have a enough power? Yeah because clearly females never joke around about males body parts with their friends.

Let's break this down.

Actually, I do think Hillary is racist. She's just better at hiding it than Trump. So, no. It's not ok for her to say the same things as Trump just because she's a white woman.

Joking about our body parts isn't the problem. It was the fact that he stated that he GRABS our genitals WITHOUT CONSENT. He said "I don't even wait, I just start kissing". He's talking about sexual assault. Bragging about it.

That's not the same thing as making a tacky joke about your dick behind your back. Not even close.
 

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I can't relate.

I'm absolutely against racism *no *matter *where the fuck it happens. I'm against Trump and his bigot, misogynist punk-ass.

Weird-ass thread.. :neutral:

TnJ here's a bit of an anecdote if you'll allow.

Some time back, in the earlier days of LPSG , I and another member (at the time) infamously went around and around at each other, he, admirably, a staunch defender of gay rights yet, curiously, dismissive of racial discrimination... our exchanges at a level of vitriol that'd make just about anything of late pale in comparison.

(Hey... what can I say, LPSG was a different "animal" back then. It's SO much better NOW.)

But before all was said and done, that guy became a FRIEND of mine (and I still think of him on occasion) It happened with the REALIZATION that

1) the struggle for CIVIL RIGHTS, on MANY fronts, is FAR from over.... and

2) IT IS A STRUGGLE COMMON TO US ALL. That the struggle for the fair and equal treatment of ONE, is the struggle for the fair and equal treatment of us ALL.

The POINT being (as I wrote earlier this week) that HATE doesn't stop at the border... with Latino immigrants, with gay people, with women, with black people, with Jewish people, with Muslims, with the poor and the infirm... NO.

Once it gains prominence, acceptance, a FOOTHOLD in a society, it SPREADS, like a malignant cancer, attacking EVERYONE seen as something "OTHER."

So, whatever the fk they do in other countries, HOWEVER the fk they FEEL there, SHOULDN'T MATTER.

What MATTERS is whether or not WE, as a NATION, intend to be BETTER than that.


 
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TnJ here's a bit of an anecdote if you'll allow.

Some time back, in the earlier days of LPSG , I and another member (at the time) infamously went around and around at each other, he, admirably, a staunch defender of gay rights yet, curiously, dismissive of racial discrimination... our exchanges at a level of vitriol that'd make just about anything of late pale in comparison.

(Hey... what can I say, LPSG was a different "animal" back then. It's SO much better NOW.)

But before all was said and done, that guy became a FRIEND of mine (and I still think of him on occasion) It happened with the REALIZATION that

1) the struggle for CIVIL RIGHTS, on MANY fronts, is FAR from over.... and

2) IT IS A STRUGGLE COMMON TO US ALL. That the struggle for the fair and equal treatment of ONE, is the struggle for the fair and equal treatment of us ALL.

The POINT being (as I wrote earlier this week) that HATE doesn't stop at the border... with Latino immigrants, with gay people, with women, with black people, with Jewish people, with Muslims, with the poor and the infirm... NO.

Once it gains prominence, acceptance, a FOOTHOLD in a society, it SPREADS, like a malignant cancer, attacking EVERYONE seen as something "OTHER."

So, whatever the fk they do in other countries, HOWEVER the fk they FEEL there, SHOULDN'T MATTER.

What MATTERS is whether or not WE, as a NATION, intend to be BETTER than that.


Yet none of what you typed had anything to do with my question. So guess what ? Now you get ignored.
 

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Have no problem with countries like India, China, Russia, Italy, Korea, Japan, Mexico, Puerto Rico, and various south American countries having the same stance about blacks living in their countries? You can go to YouTube and type in racism in the countries name and see these people calling black people call kinds of slurs and saying they don't want black people in their countries. I was watching one video about racism in soccer and in countries like Italy and Poland they throw banana's on the field and make monkey sounds at black players. I don't remember anybody being concerned.

Then when these immigrants come to USA they will either make racial slurs against black people or they will attack black people and I don't recall anybody having a problem with it. These same female social justice warriors who constantly complain if you say anything about a gay person, a immigrant, or white female never complain when white males are discriminated against or when black people are discriminated against.
I doubt very much that you have heard anyone, anywhere, say they are against Trump’s immigration policy but are okay with Japanese or Russians or whoever saying they don’t want blacks in their countries. No one has ever said that. You dreamt it.

Obviously, as an American, I am more concerned with racist assholes in America than I am about racist Assholes in Japan or Russia.

Also, Puerto Rico is not a “country”. It is part of the United States of America.
 

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I doubt very much that you have heard anyone, anywhere, say they are against Trump’s immigration policy but are okay with Japanese or Russians or whoever saying they don’t want blacks in their countries. No one has ever said that. You dreamt it.

Obviously, as an American, I am more concerned with racist assholes in America than I am about racist Assholes in Japan or Russia.

Also, Puerto Rico is not a “country”. It is part of the United States of America.
Calling Puerto Rico a country is quite the "tell."
 

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There does seem to be a certain segment of the American population that has a very difficult time wrapping their heads around the fact that Puerto Ricans are 100% as much American citizens as people from Texas or Connecticut are.

And it’s not just your basic geographic/political ignorance. It’s like, they’re told it and their brain rejects it....
 

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There does seem to be a certain segment of the American population that has a very difficult time wrapping their heads around the fact that Puerto Ricans are 100% as much American citizens as people from Texas or Connecticut are.

And it’s not just your basic geographic/political ignorance. It’s like, they’re told it and their brain rejects it....

Not surprising, when Donald Trump doesn't know he's the President of the Virgin Islands.
 

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It was the same "mentality" that said that even IF President Obama was born in HI that is was/is this far off island and somehow it should not "count"

Remember about a year ago when it was Federal judge in HI that blocked implementation of one of Trumps "travel bans" that Jeff Sessions sort of rejected it and referred to him a "some judge on an island out in the middle of the ocean" as if he should have no say or less say than a federal judge of equal level in oh lets say ALABAMA
 
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Why do so many people get upset at trump because of his immigration stance yet."

Because people shouldn't be judging other people based on there race, sexuality, disability or what corner of the planet they call home.
 

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I doubt very much that you have heard anyone, anywhere, say they are against Trump’s immigration policy but are okay with Japanese or Russians or whoever saying they don’t want blacks in their countries. No one has ever said that. You dreamt it.

Obviously, as an American, I am more concerned with racist assholes in America than I am about racist Assholes in Japan or Russia.

Also, Puerto Rico is not a “country”. It is part of the United States of America.

Right Puerto Rico isn't a state it is still a country. It is only considered part of America because this country feels sorry for it. Also I didn't ask you what you heard. I said the same people who complain about Trump immigration stance never mention how so many countries around the world don't want blacks living in their country. Also learn what racism means kid. Not wanting somebody living off your country doesn't make you racist.
 

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Right Puerto Rico isn't a state it is still a country. It is only considered part of America because this country feels sorry for it. Also I didn't ask you what you heard. I said the same people who complain about Trump immigration stance never mention how so many countries around the world don't want blacks living in their country. Also learn what racism means kid. Not wanting somebody living off your country doesn't make you racist.
Why should what other people in other countries think about black people be part of the conversation about Trump’s immigration policy?

You might as well ask why people who complain about gas prices never mention how so many colleges charge too much for tuition. It’s a non-sequitur.

And reading your “opinons” about the legal and factual status of Puerto Rico is giving me brain cancer.