Why do some porn actors wear condoms?

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  1. Jovial

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    Seems like most don't, so why do some wear a condom? Are they wearing it because they have an STD or the other person does?

    I don't really have a problem with it, I'm just curious since most of the time there are no condoms in movies.
     
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    I think they wear condoms because garbage bags don't photograph well.
     
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    Normally they don't, because condoms aren't sexy. Sex is supposed to be about reproducing.

    That they feel the need for "protection" either shows that they aren't properly married to one another, or that maybe they shouldn't be doing porn.

    I think that also relates to some of the "soft porn" simulated sex, in which they are supposed having sex, but genitals just somehow don't seem to show quite right. So they must be faking, make that "acting."

    They aren't supposed to wear condoms, because that not only impedes the natural flow of human life, but in the case of porn, people don't like reality intruding into their fantasy.

    So "amatuer porn" is probably better, because it's the real deal? A human baby may actually be soon coming alive. Husband and wife, or at least boyfriend/girlfriend, not that "showing off for the camera" sick stuff.
     
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    that wasnt even funny.

    to answer the question..couldnt tell ya. maybe just to play it safe?
    im curious to know how the industry works with people that have stds...anyone?
     
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    i think youre looking into this way too much. maybe its just me. when i look at porn i dont think and say "oh no. he's wearing a condom, that impedes the natural flow of human life...im turning this junk off!"
     
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    Well condoms are disgusting anyway. That's not the proper intimate contact.

    Isn't a lot of what makes porn so arousing, is that it's so suggestive of natural babymaking? It arouses powerful human reproductive urges, why guys can't scarcely keep from getting hard watching it.

    Having sex with a "balloon," just isn't right.
     
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    yeah you have a good point there. i mean sex without a condom is definitely hotter than sex WITH a condom, thats for sure. personally i cant stand them.

    i think sex without a condom, depend on the porn, makes it so much more intimate, or dirty. again whichever way the porn is directed. either way, condomless porn and sex for that matter is just better.

    i still do not know why some actors still use them. i did watch something once where certain companys ONLY do porn with condoms...maybe that has something to do with it.
     
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    What are you? 12? Grow up and get a reality check.
     
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    It's a 5 year old article, but I think it answers the OP's question.

    Rubber Bandwagon

    The pornography industry’s latest HIV crisis has led at least one well-known director to embrace the condom. Is this the end of porn as we know it?

    By Amy Sohn (Email)
    Published May 17, 2004

    Last month, soon after the Adult Industry Medical Health Care Foundation (AIM) discovered that porn stars Darren James and Lara Roxx had tested positive for HIV, director Adam Glasser, better known as Seymore Butts, announced that he would be mandating the use of condoms in all his movies. This came as a surprise to some who had come to associate his oeuvre with hard-core action and unprotected male-female anal sex. But Glasser, 40, stands by his decision and says the current outbreak, in which four performers have been found to be HIV-positive (a fifth case appears to be unrelated), has been a wakeup call to the industry that condoms—not testing—are the only way to stop the spread of the virus.

    “I felt it was something I had to do,” Glasser, star of the Showtime series Family Business, told me in a phone interview from his home in Los Angeles. “I felt it was my responsibility to minimize the risk to my performers as much as possible and that using condoms for vaginal- and anal-penetration scenes would minimize that risk tremendously.” He is quick to add, though, that he won’t be using condoms for oral sex, and will continue to show facials—no, not the exfoliating kind—since swallowing is less risky than unprotected sex.

    Although several companies are already condom-only, Glasser is the first “gonzo” producer to join them. Gonzo porn is known for being unscripted, wall-to-wall sex—essentially, what a scripted video would look like if you fast-forwarded through the setups. One of the first gonzo directors was Glasser’s mentor, John “Buttman” Stagliano, who, in his 1989 Adventures of Buttman, used a vérité style, participating in scenes himself and doing away with plot altogether. (In 1997, Stagliano announced that he had contracted HIV from a transsexual hooker in Rio.)

    These days, as scripted scenarios fall more out of fashion and digital photography allows just about anyone to produce a video, gonzo has become the largest segment of porn. Many associate it with hard-core (although scripted movies can be just as hard-core) and say condoms would kill its appeal. “People say they take away from the fantasy,” Glasser says, “but gonzo is really about reality-based movies. I can see it being very easy to work in condoms naturally.”

    To that end, he’s already brainstorming on future scenes: “I got a letter from a condom company telling me they make 55 different sizes and one to fit every one of my performers personally. I’m thinking I’m going to have them send me all 55, bring a bunch of guys and girls in, and do a condom-fitting scene where the guys are finding which one is their perfect condom and testing them out on the girls. It’ll be fun and it’ll be real in the sense that they’ll really be testing them out.”

    It remains to be seen whether he’ll stick to his decision; after the last adult-industry HIV outbreak, in 1998, six studios announced they were going condom-only, but only three, Vivid, Wicked, and VCA, use condoms today. Even if Glasser backpedals, though, this outbreak is raising new discussions in the heterosexual-porn industry. While gay porn relies on condoms instead of testing, the strategy in straight porn since 1998 has been a self-imposed system of monthly tests for performers, who are supposed to show their results to those they work with. Glasser says that in light of the recent crisis, some in the industry are predicting that the L.A. County Health Department will mandate condom use on all adult sets (insert joke about who’d sign up for the regulator jobs). Proponents of condom use like Glasser say self-regulation is the only way to keep the authorities out of their business.

    In the six years since aim began testing, porn actors’ rate of infection has been shockingly low—the last recorded case was in 1999, and the foundation has performed 50,000 tests. Glasser says some of his peers have been quick to point out that James probably contracted the virus on a March shoot in Brazil: “Some people say that if we were able to quarantine people coming in from out of the country, then we might be safe. But you’re depending on your fellow worker to be honest about the fact that he or she left the country.”

    What is perhaps most significant about the current outbreak is that Roxx believes James transmitted the virus to her in a scene that involved double anal penetration (two men at the same time)—and no withdrawal. So-called internal pop shots—where the man ejaculates inside the woman—are increasingly popular these days, perhaps because in a world of aids, risk has somehow become sexy. “When people used to ask me about aids,” says Glasser, “I’d say, ‘There are reasons we don’t have transmissions. There’s no internal pop shots.’ That used to be for proof that the guy came. But now they’ve figured out a way to get the girl to squeeze it out. The industry has gone to the circus acts, and that’s one of the reasons we got ourselves in trouble.”

    If more studios move to condom-only, the question will be whether pornography can retain its customary function while depicting sex that’s a more realistic reflection of society. Will porn users begin masturbating to latex porn—and then recall their favorite scenes later while mentally trying to remove condoms from the picture? For some, porn would cease to be porn: It was designed to represent fantasy; it’s an alternate universe where sex happens at the drop of a hat, everyone wants it, and everyone gets it. Yet porn has evolved with the times in many other ways. There is now porn to suit every fetish from wrestling to bug-crushing; there is feminist porn, female-ejaculation porn, transsexual porn—categories that didn’t exist 30 years ago. If condoms are part of our world, maybe porn needs to show them.

    Until that happens, a better compromise might be for directors to stop shooting double anal and internal pop shots and for female performers to stop working with those who do. Lara Roxx said in an interview with AVN.com that she didn’t know she’d be doing a D.A. until she arrived on set. She says her director and fellow performer Marc Anthony told her, “ ‘That’s what we need. It’s either that or nothing.’ ” In an industry that brings in an estimated $9 billion a year, it’s the porn-makers, not the actors, who have the power.

    Glasser is hoping he won’t lose money on his bet—and says he’s even found a silver lining: “This might make my non-condom product more valuable.” And if the condom-try-on scene doesn’t catch on with fans, technology may come to the rescue, he says. “I’ve had people tell me that they can digitally remove condoms from movies now. And even if they can’t, it’s only a matter of time.”
     
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    So it sounds like it's just certain porn companies that make the actors wear a condom. I thought maybe they wore them because a particular actor in that scene had an STD.

    @pronatalist
    How do your arguments apply to gay porn?
     
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    Hm, a thread by straight men and for straight men I guess, but since Jovial asked:

    There are 2 types of anal sex in gay porn: with condoms and without, the without being called "bareback" or "bare" or "raw". Before HIV (so, '70s and early 80's) I don't think any gay porn used condoms.

    Bareback gay porn is very controversial in the gay community, a community which let us remember was disproportionately affected in the early days of the epidemic and in which almost everyone who was out and having sex in the early 80's is either a) now dead, b) now HIV positive, or c) knows several people who passed away from complications related to HIV. The feeling among many is that even producing condom-free gay pornographic material will lead more people in the "real world" (that is, not the porn movie set) to have bareback sex, thereby increasing their risk for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Others claim this is ridiculous, that porn is a fantasy to be observed only and has no basis in what people will or will not do in real life. I, for one, have not seen any study of this issue that attempts to answer this question.

    There are a number of gay porn directors (notably including Chi Chi LaRue and Kristen Bjorn) who are vehemently opposed to bareback porn. There are others (notably Paul Morris and Valdo Iresch) who make only bareback films at their production companies. Now and then a story comes out from the straight porn world such as the one quoted above in which, unfortunately, yet another performer has tested positive for HIV. Why these performers and the industry are often so stunned about this I don't really understand - HIV has *never* been a solely gay or injection drug user issue, and if porn actors of any gender or sexuality are having unprotected sex they are putting themselves at risk for HIV and other STDs just like if we in the "real world" have unprotected sex.

    So I guess my answer to the original question of the thread is that performers in straight porn who wear condoms do so because they want to protect themselves or because the director mandates it. I remain surprised how few condoms are used in straight porn.

    To those who believe that sex without a condom is the only proper way to have sex, or the only way sex can feel good...in my opinion you are wrong and your opinion (though you are certainly entitled to it) makes me so angry I don't even know what to write. Sex can feel very good with a condom - I even got a great blowjob while wearing a condom once, and I NEVER thought that was possible. More importantly, sex with a condom or other form of protection is the ONLY way to be certain that neither partner will end up with an STD and that the woman will not end up with an unexpected (read: unwanted) pregnancy. I know someone is going to throw out the statistic that condoms are only 99-point-something percent effective. Well, that's a hell of a lot better than not using one and just assuming (hoping? wishing?) that nothing bad will happen. This notion that sex must only be had for precreation is in my opinion 1) ridiculous and 2) responsible for overpopulation, and thus for much of the suffering, in this world. Large families who do not have the means to support a large family leads to far more suffering than enjoyment.

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    Maybe the thought of likely contracting an incurable lethal illness (let alone all of those other less lethal STDs which are oh so much fun to deal with), just might cause the actors to demand that condoms are used. Of course, there's always denial. . .
     
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    To be fairly frank "What better way to get the message across about being responsible regarding safer sex." To me it gives the message If a porn star can wear one then it is cool for me to wear one too"
     
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    From what I understand, some companies are big on promotion of safe sex. As a result, they take the time to show the world that sex can be enjoyable and erotic while still wearing a condom.

    Most of the porn I've seen created in the last 5 years or so, has been condomed, unless it was specifically a bareback film.
     
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    It's just a way to say to be safe!
     
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    Well, porn seems to be the measure for a whole lot of people in terms of what is normal and common. Good to see condoms in there!

    BTW, in terms of porn: why is there so little porn with couples that are obviously attached to each other? I am sort of sick of industrial porn. Off topic though.
     
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    So the main companies that use condoms are Wicked and Vivid. About 90% of the other companies out there still prefer to test their actors and have them fuck raw.

    It's weird that in straight porn, using condoms seems to slow down the flow and overall eroticism of the scene whereas seeing gay porn actors have unsafe sex is just tasteless to many. I personally enjoy condom-free straight porn...but that's just me.
     
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    If we must have porn, why can't it be more natural and reproductive in nature?

    Encourage the populous human race to go right on growing naturally, so that all the more people may experience life. (and sex among other things)

    Why? Because it's a sick, immoral, perverted industry. So much about greed, ratings, and not much about what even the "actors" want to do. Why can't more porn "actors" be actual married couples, rather than the porn industry trying to push immorality and promiscuity?

    Seems to me, that obvious attraction would make it all the more erotic. The appearance of being an actual married couple, natural free-flowing sexual intercourse, and an obvious "internal pop," make the scene all the more erotic and hot, as it's already about awakening powerful reproductive urges in anybody watching it, and so the "actors" might actually be conceiving a real human baby, right then?

    Yeah, I agree with your sentiment, that "industrial" porn could seem too reheased, fake, or artificial. Shouldn't human mating be more natural, more about seeking some proper relief for powerful reproductive urges via reproducing, and more natural and free-flowing?
     
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    I think your perspective is skewed and that you're missing the prime objective of pornography. It is not the mission statement of porn to encourage the building of families or anything of that nature. Pornography simply exists to elicit sexual arousal.

    What makes pornography so successful is that it sells the art of fantasy. For any given demographic, there is a form of pornography and erotica that caters to them, and judging by how popular pornography is in America alone (and on this very site), I'd say that a good number of the people who buy or watch videos and attend adult theaters are, for the most part, good people.

    As an aside, I find it interesting that you consider the adult industry to be a "sick, immoral, perverted industry," when you're a member on an adult site. There are pictures here of your average Joe and Jane that could be on an of those adult films that you have disdain for.

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    At the website I always watch, they always have a pro-condom ad before the movie starts saying how they support it and all. I always thought maybe that it just showed the people in the porn are wearing condoms so you, as in the viewers, should to....but that's just what I got out of it.
     
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