Mr. Snakey
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I dont think women really go crazy anymore than a man. In fact it is a Woman who holds this crazy world together. And if a woman goes crazy 9 times out of 10 a Man was the reason
I dont think women really go crazy anymore than a man. In fact it is a Woman who holds this crazy world together. And if a woman goes crazy 9 times out of 10 a Man was the reason![]()
In the thread http://www.lpsg.org/64312-anyone-here-have-family-member.html a lot of people brought up their crazy mother. So it got me wondering, why do some women go all crazy? It's one of my fears about getting married, that she would be all nice in the beginning, but go crazy after a few years.
So I want to hear stories about women that are or became all crazy, and why you think that happened. I think a lot of times it's related to sex.
Thanks
I didn't intend this thread to be offensive. If I was better at writing maybe I could have worded it to not come across that way.
I don't understand why some women were offended by this. :boggled: I am often hypersensitive to criticism and I didn't see what they saw. :happysad: I agree that men have plenty of problems, and I'm the first to call them out when they don't act with integrity, decency and maturity.
Wait a second! Do you mean to tell me that where you live most men act with integrity, decency and maturity!?!(I gotta move to California!) The man in a woman's life can act pretty stupid and cause her to get crazy. I think some men go into marriage and start a family and get in too deep emotionally before they realize they can't handle their career and family. Then they emotionally check out.
Actually, I think it's just the opposite. Many men get so caught up in their careers and providing some mythical 'Happy Days' existence that they forget they have a wife and family and that they need to provide more than food, shelter; and clothing to help create a happy, loving family. My father didn't seem to have the emotional skills to handle raising a family which made my mother somewhat crazy. I've spent a lot of time thinking about this and I'm pretty confident that I won't repeat my father's mistakes.
So what if you do. We all make mistakes.But still I wonder if something beyond my control would affect my (future) wife, and I worry about that.
Worrying about something beyond your control, maybe happening is a total waste of time and energy. For example, if a child dies some mothers can never get past it and accept it. I'm mostly concerned with not putting the children through years of seeing parents with emotional problems. Overall, I don't think it was too good for me.
Wasn't good for me either but I came out on the other side a better person . . . and so did you. The only good thing about it is that it made me think about what it takes to be a husband and raise a family correctly.
hotmilf, thanks for your comments. They appeal to my scientific side.My mother did have a hypothyroid problem.
If women make the choice to have kids in an ideal world they should also have the choice to stay at home with them until they're of school age if they want to, unfortunately now it takes two wages to support one household so it's often not a choice, she has to work and that's my problem, when women have small kids they should receive the support to stay at home if that's what they want. I wasn't suggesting that women had to stay at home, but a lot of women would like to have those first years to devote to their kids but in lots of cases they simply can't.
I don't wish things to go back to how they were, I'd never want to go back to the 50's or earlier where women's only role was one of being a support to husband and children, but women should be given the support to stay at home for a while if that's what they want.
TK was right -- it is hormones.
But it isn't the "famous" hormones -- it's a little-publicized one: thyroxine (thyroid hormone).
People with hypothyroidism (approximately 5% of the population, but especially prevalent in post menopausal women) suffer all sorts of mental problems -- depression and crazy mood swings.
I would love for this to be true, but unfortunately, our bodies and minds not so simple-- there's no one size fits all for the body, brain, and mind. There are plenty of people who are obese, crazy, or both who have completely normal hormone levels. I'm not saying that your theory is incorrect-- for some women, it really is all a matter of regulating thyroid hormone. However, it's only true in some cases, not all.So -- if you help your gal watch her hormone levels (ALL of them -- thyroid, testosterone, progesterone, estrogen, EPO, etc. etc.) she will not only never get fat, but she will never lose her libido or get all nasty on you.
I don't think it'd work any better than prenups do at keeping people married.I think regular blood tests for hormone levels ought to be a mandatory clause in prenuptial agreements for all couples.
Wives just prefer to inflict a long, slow, torturous death which doesn't come out in the statistics.I do have to bring up the statistical likelihood of husbands killing their wives versus the alternative.
Remember, the vibrator was invented to treat "female hysteria" and "congestion of the genitalia".And, women "went all crazy" during those times when mothers did all stay at home, too... remember the root of the word "hysterical"... In fact, I think it was the repressive traditional female role in many of those cases that made them "go all crazy"! Imagine an intelligent, talented woman who is not allowed to show any of her intelligence or talents. It was a very sad situation all around.
That's right. Besides the occasional wildfire and earthquake everything is sunny and bright all the time!Wait a second! Do you mean to tell me that where you live most men act with integrity, decency and maturity!?!(I gotta move to California!)
Sounds like what you're saying is they never "check in" emotionally to begin with, or they are just clueless to begin with.The man in a woman's life can act pretty stupid and cause her to get crazy. I think some men go into marriage and start a family and get in too deep emotionally before they realize they can't handle their career and family. Then they emotionally check out.
Actually, I think it's just the opposite. Many men get so caught up in their careers and providing some mythical 'Happy Days' existence that they forget they have a wife and family and that they need to provide more than food, shelter; and clothing to help create a happy, loving family.
But I can control who I marry, and hopefully that will be someone that is more likely to handle crisis well.But still I wonder if something beyond my control would affect my (future) wife, and I worry about that.
Worrying about something beyond your control, maybe happening is a total waste of time and energy.
You know in theory of course women and men equally go crazy. There would never be a way to statistically say that women go more crazy then men or the other way around. However I agree with the OP in one regard, that from a man's perspective it does seem like women tend to have this in their nature. Now going back to what uncut says, it is definitely most likely because of rotten men to begin with, but it happens none the less.
We don't know that. Men and women go crazy and deal with it differently from what we can tell, but we don't know what causes mental illness or whatever else we're considering crazy in this thread. It's never all about science and the "chemical codes"-- there's a reason why identical twins can have 1 schizophrenic twin and one normal but it's not simply DNA. We don't know the cause of most mental illness-- we have some ideas, but we don't know.I tend to believe the science behind it more than anything else. Hotmilfs point was really strong. If there truly is any real difference between the sexes at all, it falls on the chemical codes. And this is where it will play out.
This really isn't borne out all that well in research. Yes, it's conventional wisdom, but there's no real proof for any of this. It could be argued that since testosterone is linked with aggression men are far more likely to go crazy than women if we considered getting drunk and fighting or putting a fist through the wall because your favorite football team lost as "crazy."Women have a far more fragile balancing act when it comes to hormones than men. But let us not forget, that when men hit their mid year crisis it is usually because their testostorone which keeps them fit in lots of regards, has finally gotten low enough to make a difference in their lives, and they know it.
This is obvious.I'm no biologist
What?but I bet, that if there is a difference in the craziness between the sexes at this delicate time in life, it has alot to do with Menopause, with weight gain, with hypothyroidism, and of course with social norms too. In some respects, women have been allowed to go crazy, throughout history. If men do it, we go to jail. I think in the past, dildo's were actually used to treat female "hysteria" as they called it then.
Statistically, women seem to suffer more from anxiety and clinical depression where men seem to suffer more from bipolar disorder, schizoaffective disorder, and schizophrenia. As far as personality disorders go, for example, there are more male sociopaths and more females with borderline personality disorder. There are a few working theories on why this is the case. Interestingly, with depression and anxiety, it's thought that men suffer much more depression than what is reported since many men don't seek help where women do. It would seem that, if nothing else, men and women tend to go crazy in different ways-- and that very well could be based on culture/society as much as it could by biology.
As for the term crazy. I thought the OP was taking about that momentary time between when something serious happens to a person until when they recover. I wasn't referring to people that actually have a condition and are in some way fated to end up crazy.
We don't know that. Men and women go crazy and deal with it differently from what we can tell, but we don't know what causes mental illness or whatever else we're considering crazy in this thread. It's never all about science and the "chemical codes"-- there's a reason why identical twins can have 1 schizophrenic twin and one normal but it's not simply DNA. We don't know the cause of most mental illness-- we have some ideas, but we don't know.
Well this is a good point, and was what I was revolving around. There is no real way to tell how people will react to things. I guess what both the OP and I were interested in was sometimes from a male perspective, we get that feel that maybe the women go a bit crazier. It is of course a vast generalization, but it is an emotional reaction too. I think I was just exploring whether others had something similar or found any merit in it.
This really isn't borne out all that well in research. Yes, it's conventional wisdom, but there's no real proof for any of this. It could be argued that since testosterone is linked with aggression men are far more likely to go crazy than women if we considered getting drunk and fighting or putting a fist through the wall because your favorite football team lost as "crazy."
Well as for Testosterone, you're absolutely right, might sis has a low estrogen count, and she has real problems with her aggression in general, mainly because her testostorone is high in relation to the estrogen. When I mentioned the guys losing their testosterone, I was talking about the mental panic that occurs when the realization sets in that we cannot perform in any regard close to what we considered "male" before. This causes a lot of men to go "crazy" in this temporary way, sometimes forever.
This is obvious.
Well you don't have to be nasty, we're just having a discussion
What?
Also men who present with symptoms of depression are less likely than women to be diagnosed with depression.
I have a severe hypothyroid disorder called Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, I have also been living with depression and anxiety for about 10 years now. It depends on what the crisis is and who else is around as to how well I will handle it. If everyone else is running around like a chicken with it's head cut off then I will take charge and be the epitome of efficiency. If some one else is clearly in charge then I may just go to pieces.:redface:Wives just prefer to inflict a long, slow, torturous death which doesn't come out in the statistics.![]()
I'm gonna let you slide on that one because I know the other ladies will get you for that. :biggrin1:
Remember, the vibrator was invented to treat "female hysteria" and "congestion of the genitalia".![]()
True, and married women were the bulk of the clientele. Apparently even in the 19th century husbands couldn't be bothered to leave the office or the billiard room long enough to tend to their wives needs.![]()
Maybe I'm an idealist, but I'd like to think an intense orgasm every day would help keep any woman sane.And if that's all it takes, I'll make the sacrifice. :biggrin1: no comment :tongue:
That's right. Besides the occasional wildfire and earthquake everything is sunny and bright all the time!![]()
Ahhh yes, that reminds me of why I didn't move to Eureka, CA years ago . . . the mudslides were a bit much for me to handle.
Sounds like what you're saying is they never "check in" emotionally to begin with, or they are just clueless to begin with.
BINGO! :smile:
But I can control who I marry, and hopefully that will be someone that is more likely to handle crisis well.