Why do think transsexual porn is so popular amongst strictly "hetero" men?

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trans porn is a very strange phenomenon. The fact that it is so popular amongst "hetero" men tells us sexual desire is far more complex than we can imagine.

Why do you think so many men who would call themselves strictly "hetero", watch this kind of porn?

And what do you think you, as a woman, can learn from this?

-I see some possible reasons for the success of trans porn amongst heteros [excuse me for my bad English, I'm not a native speaker]:


1. THE "WOMEN'S SEXUAL SECRETS" / OPPORTUNISTIC THEORY

By watching trans porn, men think they can find out what it must be like to be a woman and have sex, without having to go out and experience it themselves in a gay encounter.
-A trans is often more archetypically "feminine" than real women while at the same time they have a cock, and often a big one at that.
-By projecting themselves in the role of being a trans (who sucks cocks and gets penetrated), they can "experience" feminity without getting psychologically castrated (castration fear / fear of being gay / fear of becoming a real woman -- they can safely project themselves into the role of a trans, because a trans is a woman, BUT she still has the cock; this negates castration fears).
-They can then use this knowledge (they now know what a woman experiences during sex, they think), for purely opportunistic reasons. They can use it to get you to be more sexually open during an encounter. Mimicry is might; they now know what you want (they think), so they can exert more power over you without becoming dominant or without relying on the old hetero strategies which they think fail too often. They can control you by using your own knowledge against you - so they think. And they have acquired this knowledge from watching/experiencing/projecting themselves into transsexual roles.


2. THE "HIDDEN HOMOSEXUALITY" THEORY

Alternatively, trannies allow "hetero" men to unlock their hidden and repressed homosexual feelings without actually becoming gay.
-Transsexuals are 'transitional' figures; with both feminine forms (archetypical ones) and a big cock, the hetero/bi-men can experiment with their gay feelings without being real homosexuals.
-Trannies allow them to overcome their own fears during these experiments: they can imagine sucking a big cock, but when they go too far psychologically, they can very quickly revert back to looking at the trans as a woman, with breasts. This theory is based on what Baudrillard said about transsexuals and pornography; porn is "cutting up bodies" into specific fetishes - a tit here, a cock there, a butt here, thick lips there; by cutting up a trans into her respective parts - both male and female parts - you can continuously switch between your hetero and homo feelings.
-However this idea pressuposes the existence of bi-sexuality and the 'fluidity' of sexual roles, which is disputed in the scientific community.


3. THE "AFFIRMATIVE HETEROSEXUALITY" THEORY

Finally, watching trans porn may just be a strategy of hetero men to affirm their total heterosexuality, because trannies are more feminine than real women.
-As men, transsexuals know better than women what men really want.
-As women, they can use this knowledge to act like the 'total slut', the complete woman who knows perfectly what men want and can satisfy their deepest hetero desires ('the best blowjobs', 'the best slutty attitude', etc...)
-in this theory, hetero men would watch transsexual porn because it represents best what they want women to do during sex; trannies are more feminine than ordinary women
-one could take this a step further and say that ordinary hetero porn, with female porn stars, is actually not heterosexual enough; female porn stars act too much like men, they exaggerate and they act, they 'fake it' (there's a point to it: especially American porn stars are a major turn off because they overdo it); trans-porn is in this sense more suited for real heteros, because trannies are women who don't have to act (because they are men who like to have sex with men, no need for them to act, unlike porn stars).
-it remains a purely virtual exercise; the hetero men can play out their fantasies of what a 'real slut' should be, by watching trans porn - during real encounters with real women, they cannot demand these women to be the total slut; moreover, real women are not capable of being such a total slut, because they will never really know what men really want! Trannies do and offer these hetero men their ultimate fantasy space about the ultimate slut woman.


Mmm, I don't know. But one thing is certain: both men and women can learn a lot by questioning the reasons as to why watching transsexual porn is so popular amongst "hetero" men.

What do you think?
 

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It's something I have never done, but i would like to think that if I ever found myself with a trans (not a term i really like), I would go through with it because I had found her attractive as a woman and that is what she had wanted me to find attractive.

Would I enjoy it - I have absolutely no idea. I would have to tread very carefully with each act. And No, I don't look at that type of porn.
 

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I'm not sure, I'm hetero but that kind of thing really turns me off. Err, the chick has a dick. Making her not a chick. It makes her a dude. I don't want to jerk off to a dude. "Hetero" men that masturbate to trans porn have supressed homosexual fantasies for sure.
 

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Gee, talk about reading into things a little too much. trans porn isn't popular among women for the same reason that any kind of porn isn't popular among women. Having said that, one of my GFs did say that she found some transexuals attractive. She also had a crush on a gay coworker before she met me.
 

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1. THE "WOMEN'S SEXUAL SECRETS" / OPPORTUNISTIC THEORY


2. THE "HIDDEN HOMOSEXUALITY" THEORY

Alternatively, trannies allow "hetero" men to unlock their hidden and repressed homosexual feelings without actually becoming gay.
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3. THE "AFFIRMATIVE HETEROSEXUALITY" THEORY

Finally, watching trans porn may just be a strategy of hetero men to affirm their total heterosexuality, because trannies are more feminine than real women.
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What do you think?
I think you're sadly misinformed and greatly confused--and confusing (I point to your theories 2 and 3.

After (very little) digging around I found your past topics (ones you opened threads on).

I found these gems:

Why do black girls get so much wetter?
Indian men are small?
Big German penis with fat knob-the ideal?
Why do girls always go with the drummer?
Asian girls have big penises too
Some Asian girls have big cocks



You may wish to explore some of your ideas further--they seem, um, different.
 

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I dont like transsexuals they like to trick men in to having sex with them then tell them there a man. so ill never watch transsexual porn!!
 

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I dont like transsexuals they like to trick men in to having sex with them then tell them there a man. so ill never watch transsexual porn!!
I would like to add that porn and real life are never the same. Porn is made up fantasy world, and real life is just that. So im not lambasting you, im just saying that there is a distinction. Also, transsexuals are people just like you and me, and while some are defietfull some are honest, so just like with all people broad based blanket accusations just dont work.
 

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Gee, talk about reading into things a little too much. trans porn isn't popular among women for the same reason that any kind of porn isn't popular among women. Having said that, one of my GFs did say that she found some transexuals attractive. She also had a crush on a gay coworker before she met me.

Oh djee, did anyone say it was popular amongst women? No. This thread is about the question why it is popular amongst men.

But I understand that you're a bit confused about which gender we're talking about here. :biggrin1: You're forgiven. :smile:


So the question was: why is trans porn popular amongst hetero men? And what can women learn from this fact?
 

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I think you're sadly misinformed and greatly confused--and confusing (I point to your theories 2 and 3.

After (very little) digging around I found your past topics (ones you opened threads on).


You may wish to explore some of your ideas further--they seem, um, different.

Hey man, what's you problem? If you don't like this exploration of the psychology of hetero men watching trans porn, then go away.

Where I come from, we have this kind of discussions in a mature way.

If you think my ideas are confusing, then explain why. Or get out and stop acting like a prick.
 

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Who the hell likes trans porn? (I mean besides you) Probably a smaller percentage of men than like to watch men shit in a women's mouths. I wouldn't call it a phenomenon.

I happen to know it's one of the most popular categories in the online adult DVD rentals business. Otherwise I wouldn't have opened this thread.

It's not because you can't imagine this being popular that it isn't. :)
 

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By the way, a trans website like Shegods.com is far more popular than the rather well-known website called LPSG.org. :)

Just to give you a clue:
Traffic ranks:
Related Info for: shegods.com/

Just as popular than such success websites as Bangbros'
Related Info for: monstersofcock.com/
or even more popular than Bangbros'
Related Info for: milflessons.com/
And almost as popular than the world famous
Related Info for: blacksonblondes.com/

Anyways, you can use Alexa and compare some things for yourself. You'll see.
 

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Hey man, what's you problem? If you don't like this exploration of the psychology of hetero men watching trans porn, then go away.

Where I come from, we have this kind of discussions in a mature way.

If you think my ideas are confusing, then explain why. Or get out and stop acting like a prick.
With friendly banter like that, I don't know how anyone would not just leap at the opportunity to spend an evening alone with you--apparently watching transexual sex films and discussing Asian women with penises and how they are in comparrison to the tons of wet black women you;ve yet to enjoy. Slither back to your hole in the ground wormboy.
 

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A trans website being more popular than this isn't exactly proof of your claim, its proof that people are there but says nothing about who they are.

I'm sorry, but like many others here, I'm just not buying this

Ok, that is really your problem.

Why don't you check it out? I mean, as a person I'm always curious to learn new things, and I'm open-minded enough to be surprised.

here's a list of popular transsexual websites.
trans Gods trans transsexuals transvestites shehe trans fuck She Gods > scroll down
feed them into:
Alexa Web Search

And compare their traffic ranks with popular hetero adult websites.


You'll fall off your chair. I did. :smile:

Anyways, I'm closing the case about the popularity issue.
 

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With friendly banter like that, I don't know how anyone would not just leap at the opportunity to spend an evening alone with you--apparently watching transexual sex films and discussing Asian women with penises and how they are in comparrison to the tons of wet black women you;ve yet to enjoy. Slither back to your hole in the ground wormboy.

Man, get over it. Sexual psychology is not your thing. Nobody cares. To each his own interests. No biggie, really.
 

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You sure you're not related to JQBlonde?

It is good practise to provide actual proof of claims along with the claim itself, so far you've linked to a few sites which are popular but that is only proof that SOMEONE is going there, not what their sexuality is. I am not here to proof your case, I am here to partake in a thread and ask questions which I feel have not been answered, this is the general way things go on forums.

Ok, as I said: I know first hand that its one of the most popular categories in the online DVD adult business. I can't disclose this information. But I'm telling you it is.

The best I can do is to show you the comparison of hugely popular hetero websites, versus transsexual websites.

And there you have the proof that indeed, it's a very popular category (a site like shegods.com ranks 8,660th of all websites indexed by Alexa; a site like asiansexyshemales.com ranks 5,832th, considerably higher than some of the bangbros.com sites; anyone with a basic understanding of traffic ranking and website popularity knows what this means..., such a high ranking means the site is extremely popular).

Now I can't prove that most of these visitors are male; but do you think they are female? Or transsexual (a group of people of which there are only a few hundred thousand on this planet)? :rolleyes:

No, so let's assume they're men, shall we?

Now are they hetero or gay men? I can't prove this either, or not for the Alexa traffic rankings, that is. But I tell you that in the online DVD rental business, they consistently are. We know this from very straightforward parameters.


Ok, and now I'd like to get to the topic at hand. Thanks.
 

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The fact that this thread doesn't get off the ground, clearly proves the point I'm trying to make, though. Sexuality is far more complex than we think, and the fluidity or hybridity of desire is threatening to most people. :biggrin1:

That in itself is quite interesting.
 

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Now assuming all of the above is true (which I'm still not buying) how exactly do you come to the conclusion that these men are straight?

We can't possibly discuss the topic at hand when the topic itself is based on information so easily dismissed at false.

See my post above.

Now I can't prove that most of these visitors are male; but do you think they are female? Or transsexual (a group of people of which there are only a few hundred thousand on this planet)? :rolleyes:

No, so let's assume they're men, shall we?

Now are they hetero or gay men? I can't prove this either, or not for the Alexa traffic rankings, that is. But I tell you that in the online DVD rental business, they consistently are. We know this from very straightforward parameters.