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Why do people obsess so much about cicumcision, cut v uncut and forekins? I feel like it is one of the most popular discussion topics when talking about cocks. If I were to ask random people what they thought about my cock most would point out I am cut.

I live in Europe where most men are not circumcised, so I get it it is a bit of a novelty for some - my firend asked me about it when we changed together after gym and we ended up discussing foreskins for 20 minutes, randomly finding out that he’d given much thought himself to getting circumcised.

Similarly I did get a bit of attention as an uncut male when I spent a summer as an exchange student in the US back when I had my foreskin. My flatmates brought it up after having seen me naked in the shower (we didn’t bother to cover up that much) and were very much aware of cut v uncut and curious what my position was. At a different social gathering the topic of circumcision was brought up and heavily debated by both males and females.

I’ve also had female housemates who would discuss about partners they’ve had and would go into details such as who was cut and who wasn’t. Sizes and shapes would rarely come into their conversation, but I learned that one of the Italians in our year had a very long foreskin or that the Swiss was cut so tight that you’d need loads of lube with him. One of them even joked that his crewcut matched his cut penis.

My guess is that the foreskin (or lack thereof) is a very distinctive feature of the penis, plus it is a topic charged with cultural and religious tensions for some. Still, will we ever get to the point where whether someone is cut or not is inconsequential and we stop debating this so much?
 

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I tend to be of the opinion that it should not be done to children. Beyond that, though, I think adults should have the ability to determine whether it will be conducive to their health and wellbeing to have one. And most of the debate about which is better or worse is pretty toxic and quickly devolves into body shaming, and I don't see any use in any of that.
 

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Having my intact foreskin since birth, I began obsessing about my foreskin once I realized every cock I observed had been circumcised. I viewed the bare glans as attractive, and desired to be one of the gang, so I would attempt to keep my foreskin retracted whenever exposed. I inadvertently believed women preferred circumcised cocks. I desired to become circumcised for many years. Over 40 years of procrastination before I discovered the attractiveness of remaining intact.

The historical debate of pro/con circumcision has evolved. I believe it varies among the community wherein discussed. Sexual arousal, health issues, religion, or personal choice all have legitimate grounds for opinions expressed.
 

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Why do people obsess so much about cicumcision, cut v uncut and forekins?

<snip> (probably inappropriate, given the subject of the conversation!)

Still, will we ever get to the point where whether someone is cut or not is inconsequential and we stop debating this so much?

I think that the short answer is no. We'll always be interested in differences between each other, be it stature, build, body art, piercings or circumcision status.

From my POV, I think that it was/is just curiosity amongst my peer group (white, British). Encountering individuals from different cultures, where circumcision is not unusual (even expected), has never really given rise to any discussion on the subject with those individuals. However, I've had a few friends over the years, from similar backgrounds to my own, that have been circumcised and it's just curiosity to know why they were cut (family tradition, religion, medical reasons etc.). Mostly they have been RICs due to phimosis but I do have one friend, with three older brothers - for some reason (and he doesn't know why) all four of them are circumcised, so it's occasionally come up in conversation with him. It's also been curiosity to learn about their experiences, through life, being circumcised in a predominantly non-circumcised culture. I certainly recall, when I was younger, one of my mates being the subject of a lot of discussion and interest (almost a weekly obsession in the locker room!), due to the fact that (a) although he was small in stature, he had the most humungous cock out of all of us and (b) he was circumcised. The lads nicknamed him "Nozzle".

To me (and many, I suspect), though, it's just like discovering that your mate's got a tattoo and asking him what it's about and why did he decide to get one. I have had discussions with a couple of mates who are very open about their circumcision status and sexual activity, regarding the differences in masturbation and sexual technique - they've been as curious to learn from me as I am from them. One thing that I discovered was that circumcised guys can masturbate in several different ways, which hadn't occurred to me. It's odd some of the conversations that come up in the pub after a few pints! I don't think that I've ever been involved in a debate on the pros or cons of the subject but it's certainly been a topic of discussion from time to time.

Generally, though, it's not a subject that tends to come up that often in my world. I haven't had the same experience of being the minority in a cultural environment, where I might be the subject of questions, but I suspect that it's exactly the same situation as I find in the UK but in reverse. Like you, Jack, I do often wonder at the quantity of discussion on here about the subject and tend to think that it's sometimes just the fetishists getting off on the conversation!
 

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Why do people obsess so much about cicumcision, cut v uncut and forekins? I feel like it is one of the most popular discussion topics when talking about cocks. If I were to ask random people what they thought about my cock most would point out I am cut.

I live in Europe where most men are not circumcised, so I get it it is a bit of a novelty for some - my firend asked me about it when we changed together after gym and we ended up discussing foreskins for 20 minutes, randomly finding out that he’d given much thought himself to getting circumcised.

Similarly I did get a bit of attention as an uncut male when I spent a summer as an exchange student in the US back when I had my foreskin. My flatmates brought it up after having seen me naked in the shower (we didn’t bother to cover up that much) and were very much aware of cut v uncut and curious what my position was. At a different social gathering the topic of circumcision was brought up and heavily debated by both males and females.

I’ve also had female housemates who would discuss about partners they’ve had and would go into details such as who was cut and who wasn’t. Sizes and shapes would rarely come into their conversation, but I learned that one of the Italians in our year had a very long foreskin or that the Swiss was cut so tight that you’d need loads of lube with him. One of them even joked that his crewcut matched his cut penis.

My guess is that the foreskin (or lack thereof) is a very distinctive feature of the penis, plus it is a topic charged with cultural and religious tensions for some. Still, will we ever get to the point where whether someone is cut or not is inconsequential and we stop debating this so much?
there is nothing to debate it was ideology, of a sexual predator (by todays standards)to push the sales of his cereal Kelloggs corn flakes (Dr Kelloggs )
 

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With regards @NIMBUS made me realize, I haven't really encountered many discussions about circumcision (e.g. group conversations). I've become more enlightened via LPSG threads and postings about various issues, but in my personal social culture the topic isn't really discussed. I have observed more references on television sitcom shows during the past 20 years, but assume its related towards our society's relaxation of prudish standards:confused:.

Besides the atrocity of infantile circumcision, we may want to consider the practice of clitoral hood circumcision. Other forms of female genital mutilation exist, too. Obviously these are topics of serious discussion prone for mixed opinions of societal development. In conclusion, I'm not thinking "people obsess so much about circumcision"... …

As I've become more mature, relaxed within my own sexuality, and experienced more sexual encounters with men ...
View media item 1444737View media item 1352430View media item 1352425I've come to believe more circumcised men are "obsessed" about circumcision than society as a whole:no_mouth::rolleyes:
 

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I learned that one of the Italians in our year had a very long foreskin

Interesting. As I'm half Italian I can confirm, I have a long foreskin and it was way longer, I had a little surgery while I was a baby to remove a bit of that very long foreskin. It is known that some Southern Italians have massive foreskins (and dicks, sometimes).
 

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Its an interesting topic, one very charged on both sides. I have a close friend who in odd discussion brought up how he would circumcised his son if he had one. When asked why he simply said "because I am". When pushed for a better reason he started pulling out unsupported statements he had heard about it being healthier etc.

I see it broken into a few categories of discussion.
Religion
This one is self explanatory and I don't need to type it out.

Aesthetics
"because I am" falls under that. Basically people think it looks better because of the simple conditioning of whats around them. If a female only sleeps with cut individuals they will think its normal and in turn looks better. Same as men in the change room, they will see their peers and if you are in the States you will more likely mostly see cut folk and in turn think of it as normal. That sort of conditioning starts at a very young age and results in the "my son will be circumcised because I am". Which is ironic how interested these fathers are in the looks of their sons penises.
Ive seen plenty of posts here about adult circumcisions and why people got them, the leading reason is "I wasn't happy with how my cock looks". Now do what you want as an adult, but imagine being on the other side of that and having had a for all intents and purposes irreversible operation done on you as an infant because your daddy was cut?

Health
One of the more debated ones for sure and the common fallback to people defending circumcision. When confronted with "why do you care about how your sons dick looks?" or "why would you maim your child?" its easy to find high ground with the "well actually its healthier and therefore i was acting in their best interests.
The two main components to the health argument is usually cleanliness and STI's. Cleanliness revolves around the belief that it is hard to clean under the foreskin. It isn't, you pull it back and rinse. If someone has dirty foreskin, its not the fault of the foreskin its the persons lack of hygiene. AND their is also the case for if the foreskin is too tight, a condition called phimosis which can lead to infection and poor hygiene. Circumcision in that singular case is beneficial for the persons health and comfort.
The argument regarding STI's is the last and often largest fallback, linked below is an interesting article from the NHS breaking down the article by an American study stating that being cut reduces your risk of STI's. In laymans terms the study was riddled with problems regarding to subject groups and how the data was interpreted.
Circumcision and STIs

And thats my rant and ramble about circumcision for the day.
 
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.Great summarization @Gopher:):emoji_v:An interesting reflection I had earlier this afternoon falls under the category of aesthetics. Having grown up in the U.S. with my foreskin intact and desiring to appear "normal" amongst my friends, I desired to become circumcised for over 30 years of my adulthood. Oddly, when my son was born and my wife asked whether he should be circumcised, I didn't hesitate in replying, "definitely".:confused::( I was not aware of infantile trauma, nor had I considered his freedom of choice. Strangely, I recall my wife telling me about her observing my son tugging on his cock as a young tyke. She claimed that he was attempting to make his penis appear similar to mine. Ridiculous, I stated.

Ashamed to believe that I was an enlightened member of the "Boomer Generation", and I've never participated in the sexual education of my children. I can't recall even changing their diapers more than three occasions. I've never discussed circumcision with my children, and rarely has the topic arisen amongst mixed company. I don't have the courage to ask my son about the circumcision decision I made for him:expressionless:.
 

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I don't "obsess" about circumcision, it's just BS that some of us had no choice at childbirth and we were cut. To me that is male mutilation built on no science or medical reasons and unfortunately for us our parents were stupid enough to not know better.
 

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Why do people obsess so much about circumcision, cut v uncut and foreskins?
  • Mostly I think the issue is about consent:
    If you're an adult that has the procedure, then that's fine - but you're having it at at time of your life when the protective membrane that exists between the infant's glans and foreskin has done all its work. As your penis is bigger, I assume it's less likely to have a botched operation
    If you were an infant, you may grow up desiring to know your fully intact self, what your own foreskin might have felt like and its protective qualities

  • From a sexual receptive side, a foreskin feels silkier and slidy in the ass, causing less friction and less risk of tearing the skin (in my experience)

  • From a disease perspective, the foreskin does also contain those Langerhans cells that draw material into the immune system and may raise the chance of HIV contraction - but with PrEP and U=U this becomes less of an issue by the day

  • From a sensitivity perspective, the exposed glans rubbing against fabric can cause the skin to dry out: I had a ex start using a replacement cock sheath to keep his penis protected and moist and this helped him to recover a good deal of sensitivity

  • From an aesthetic point of view: Cocks are just beautiful and there's something to love about both cut and uncut men

  • From a cultural perspective. Fuck culture, respect autonomy
 

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I'm not circumcised. I'm glad I'm not. In Europe it's not as common as in the US. In my life, I'm 68 years of age now, I've often met circumcised guys. Many of them were curious about how it "worked. To me cut or uncut is no issue. Both are fine. I wondered most that a lot of guys, especially of my age, were circumcised right after birth. They didn't even know for a long time that a boy could be uncut!
Here on LPSG the norm was for long time: pics of circumcised dicks. Especially older men are cut.
I like to post pictures of uncut penises in several threads to show the difference and bring some balance. I guess that most men on the globe are uncut.
I've thought about gathering pictures of badly circumcised penises to show to men who try to convince us about the pro's of getting circumcised. I think it's better not doing that.
 
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I was cut at birth. I can understand why guys who were cut like myself would have rather had that choice themselves later on in life. I am glad I was cut. I much prefer how a dick looks without foreskin. Maybe I would be singing a different song if I was sitting here now uncut. How others feel about cut/uncut is up to them. I can only speak for myself.
 

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Why do people obsess so much about cicumcision, cut v uncut and forekins? I feel like it is one of the most popular discussion topics when talking about cocks. If I were to ask random people what they thought about my cock most would point out I am cut.

I live in Europe where most men are not circumcised, so I get it it is a bit of a novelty for some - my firend asked me about it when we changed together after gym and we ended up discussing foreskins for 20 minutes, randomly finding out that he’d given much thought himself to getting circumcised.

Similarly I did get a bit of attention as an uncut male when I spent a summer as an exchange student in the US back when I had my foreskin. My flatmates brought it up after having seen me naked in the shower (we didn’t bother to cover up that much) and were very much aware of cut v uncut and curious what my position was. At a different social gathering the topic of circumcision was brought up and heavily debated by both males and females.

I’ve also had female housemates who would discuss about partners they’ve had and would go into details such as who was cut and who wasn’t. Sizes and shapes would rarely come into their conversation, but I learned that one of the Italians in our year had a very long foreskin or that the Swiss was cut so tight that you’d need loads of lube with him. One of them even joked that his crewcut matched his cut penis.

My guess is that the foreskin (or lack thereof) is a very distinctive feature of the penis, plus it is a topic charged with cultural and religious tensions for some. Still, will we ever get to the point where whether someone is cut or not is inconsequential and we stop debating this so much?
In the real world, it is of little to no consequence. The tiny minority who either fetishize it, or are on some level emotionally obsessed, have found an outlet for this niche here. They in no way are representative of humanity as a whole. If you look carefully, a very small number of members are very prolific in discussing this.
 

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Having my intact foreskin since birth, I began obsessing about my foreskin once I realized every cock I observed had been circumcised. I viewed the bare glans as attractive, and desired to be one of the gang, so I would attempt to keep my foreskin retracted whenever exposed. I inadvertently believed women preferred circumcised cocks. I desired to become circumcised for many years. Over 40 years of procrastination before I discovered the attractiveness of remaining intact.

The historical debate of pro/con circumcision has evolved. I believe it varies among the community wherein discussed. Sexual arousal, health issues, religion, or personal choice all have legitimate grounds for opinions expressed.

Same. My situation is better because I live in Europe among uncut guys but just the thought that there are millions guys in US who have beautiful permanently visible glans makes me depressed. I know what you felt living and seeing those cut dicks and not having such a one.
 

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My obsession is based on the fact that circumcision of male babies/minors outside of medical necessity is genital mutilation. If adult men wish to have it done it is their choice.
 

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I'm fortunate to have looser skin (for a cut cock) and I often JO without lube.
That said, I'd rather be uncircumcised after years of thinking uncut was gross.
(reasons? porn mags when I was a kid showed more exposed glans, cut or not, contemporaries talking down about uncut cocks, seeing several uncut cocks and not loving them at the time, general ignorance and stupidity)

Even though there are occasional medical reasons to have the procedure, I basically think the cock should be left alone and religion is to blame for the procedure in a cultural way.

THAT SAID, I hate that I didn't have the choice and my Italian-born (yes uncut) father
chose this for me and often refers to my circumcised cock in casual conversation which creeps me out to no end.

My guess is, my father chose this for me as a continuance of his
assimilation as an American when he was a fairly new immigrant.
(I guess he wanted me to 'fit in' with other American boys)
The good news: I'm better hung than he is and pumping has made my skin looser and
I recommend it for a guy who's cut a bit too tight and wants a little more of a heftier uncut look.
Also, I often spelled 'uncircumcised' as 'uncircumsized'...I guess this is LPSG and size is never far from thought....
 

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I have done erotic massage on men for 35 years and on thousands of men. Cut and uncut. I can truly say I have NOT noticed any noticeable difference in intensity of orgasms in cut or uncut clients. Of course this is anecdotal, but I can safely say I have had a LOT of experience in this regard.... much more than most. Some uncut appear to be more sensitive to certain types of touch and often do not like the skin to be retracted, but I have seen over the top climaxes in cut and uncut alike. The only issue for me with the uncut is when people don't practice good hygiene it has nearly gagged me and I have had to breath through my mouth. I've had some clients I am sure you could smell on the other side of the room. It was truly foul. Fortunately this only happened very rarely. For myself I don't really have a preference. I am happy with being cut. I've managed to have a lot of fun with it the way it is.